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I have no idea. I was separated body, soul and spirit one time. My body was lying on the bed, my soul sat up and my spirit was across the room talking to another spirit, a demon, I am sure. I could not see either my spirit or the demon, but I knew where they were located. I sensed a size to the spirits, my own and the demon, but could not tell for sure.
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Are you referring to astral projection?
Did their form changed after they were cast out of heaven? In church today they talked about how video games and movies glorify evil with what they portray, and I asked my mom after church something to the effect of if she thought that the scary stuff and monsters portrayed in popular culture are accurate or inheritly evil.
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Why not? I am not familiar with Alan Conrow, but his speculations are as valid as anyone else's.
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I am referring to an actual experience I had, I don't care what name is applied.
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Sorry, I have no interest in this video. He is taking too long to get to his point so I stopped watching it. When God speaks, it is brief, because the Word of the Lord is pure as silver refined by fire 7 times. This guy may has some truth, but I am usually turned off by too much verbosity.
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he has youtube videos talking about visions of people in heaven and hell. Do you think this is of God?
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As I said, I have no interest in this guy. I can not answer since that requires my watching his videos all the way through. My sense is that he is a waste of time, but I do not actually know. I would have to waste my time by watching them before I could say so.
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Heaven And The Heaven Of Heavens
The Bible speaks of three different heavens.
Two are in our universe. Another is where God dwells.
Genesis 1:1 says that God created "the heavens" .
The 1st heaven is the atmosphere around the earth. Where birds & planes fly.
The 2nd heaven is moon, stars, galaxies etc.
The 3rd heaven is where Gods throne is. And exists outside of our observable universe.
Genesis 7:11 In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and """the windows of heaven were opened"""
Genesis 28:12 And he dreamed, and """behold a ladder set up on the earth, and the top of it reached to heaven""": and behold the angels of God ascending and descending on it.
2 Kings 2:1 It came to pass, when the LORD would """take up Elijah into heaven by a whirlwind"""
2 Kings 2:11 Behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, & horses of fire, & parted them both asunder; and """Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven""".
Ezekiel 1:1 Now it came to pass in the 13th year, in the 4th month, in the 5th day of the month, as I was among the captives by the river of Chebar, that """the heavens were opened""", and I saw visions of God.
Ezekiel 1:4 I looked, &, """behold, a whirlwind came out of the north""", a great cloud, a fire infolding itself, a brightness was about it, and out of the midst thereof as the colour of amber, out of the midst of the fire.
Matthew 3:16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the """heavens were opened unto him""", and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
Acts 7:56 And said, Behold, """I see the heavens opened""", and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.
Acts 10:11 """And saw heaven opened""", and a certain vessel descending unto him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:
Revelation 4:1 After this I looked, and, behold, """a door was opened in heaven"""
Revelation 19:And """I saw heaven opened""", and behold a white horse;
THIRD HEAVEN SCRIPTURE REFERENCES
Deut 10:14 Behold, the heaven and the heaven of heavens is the LORD'S thy God, the earth also, with all that therein is.
1 Kings 8:27 But will God indeed dwell on the earth? behold, the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain thee; how much less this house that I have builded?
2 Chronicles 6:18 But will God in very deed dwell with men on the earth? behold, heaven and the heaven of heavens cannot contain thee; how much less this house which I have built!
2 Chronicles 6:21 Hearken therefore unto the supplications of thy servant, and of thy people Israel, which they shall make toward this place: hear thou from thy dwelling place, even from heaven; and when thou hearest, forgive.
2 Chronicles 6:39 Then hear thou from the heavens, even from thy dwelling place, their prayer and their supplications, and maintain their cause, and forgive thy people which have sinned against thee.
Eph 4:10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above the heavens, that he might fill all things.
2 Cor 2:2 I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth
such an one caught up to the third heaven.
Revelation 21:
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
FINAL THOUGHT:
The universecouldn't be created from within. Within means already there. So clearly, God the creator, doesn't live within our observable universe. Although scripture make it clear, He does have the ability to operate inside it.
The fact God exists in a dimension outside of time. Answers another much asked question. Who created God?
Only """within the confines of TIME""" is a beginning or an end necessary.
Time as we know it begins: When God's breathes the breath of life into mans nostrils. And man becomes a living soul. Maranatha
The Bible speaks of three different heavens.
Two are in our universe. Another is where God dwells.
Genesis 1:1 says that God created "the heavens" .
The 1st heaven is the atmosphere around the earth. Where birds & planes fly.
The 2nd heaven is moon, stars, galaxies etc.
The 3rd heaven is where Gods throne is. And exists outside of our observable universe.
Genesis 7:11 In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and """the windows of heaven were opened"""
Genesis 28:12 And he dreamed, and """behold a ladder set up on the earth, and the top of it reached to heaven""": and behold the angels of God ascending and descending on it.
2 Kings 2:1 It came to pass, when the LORD would """take up Elijah into heaven by a whirlwind"""
2 Kings 2:11 Behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, & horses of fire, & parted them both asunder; and """Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven""".
Ezekiel 1:1 Now it came to pass in the 13th year, in the 4th month, in the 5th day of the month, as I was among the captives by the river of Chebar, that """the heavens were opened""", and I saw visions of God.
Ezekiel 1:4 I looked, &, """behold, a whirlwind came out of the north""", a great cloud, a fire infolding itself, a brightness was about it, and out of the midst thereof as the colour of amber, out of the midst of the fire.
Matthew 3:16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the """heavens were opened unto him""", and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
Acts 7:56 And said, Behold, """I see the heavens opened""", and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.
Acts 10:11 """And saw heaven opened""", and a certain vessel descending unto him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:
Revelation 4:1 After this I looked, and, behold, """a door was opened in heaven"""
Revelation 19:And """I saw heaven opened""", and behold a white horse;
THIRD HEAVEN SCRIPTURE REFERENCES
Deut 10:14 Behold, the heaven and the heaven of heavens is the LORD'S thy God, the earth also, with all that therein is.
1 Kings 8:27 But will God indeed dwell on the earth? behold, the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain thee; how much less this house that I have builded?
2 Chronicles 6:18 But will God in very deed dwell with men on the earth? behold, heaven and the heaven of heavens cannot contain thee; how much less this house which I have built!
2 Chronicles 6:21 Hearken therefore unto the supplications of thy servant, and of thy people Israel, which they shall make toward this place: hear thou from thy dwelling place, even from heaven; and when thou hearest, forgive.
2 Chronicles 6:39 Then hear thou from the heavens, even from thy dwelling place, their prayer and their supplications, and maintain their cause, and forgive thy people which have sinned against thee.
Eph 4:10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above the heavens, that he might fill all things.
2 Cor 2:2 I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth
such an one caught up to the third heaven.Revelation 21:
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
FINAL THOUGHT:
The universecouldn't be created from within. Within means already there. So clearly, God the creator, doesn't live within our observable universe. Although scripture make it clear, He does have the ability to operate inside it.
The fact God exists in a dimension outside of time. Answers another much asked question. Who created God?
Only """within the confines of TIME""" is a beginning or an end necessary.
Time as we know it begins: When God's breathes the breath of life into mans nostrils. And man becomes a living soul. Maranatha
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Heaven And The Heaven Of Heavens
The Bible speaks of three different heavens.
Two are in our universe. Another is where God dwells.
Genesis 1:1 says that God created "the heavens" .
The 1st heaven is the atmosphere around the earth. Where birds & planes fly.
The 2nd heaven is moon, stars, galaxies etc.
The 3rd heaven is where Gods throne is. And exists outside of our observable universe.
Genesis 7:11 In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and """the windows of heaven were opened"""
Genesis 28:12 And he dreamed, and """behold a ladder set up on the earth, and the top of it reached to heaven""": and behold the angels of God ascending and descending on it.
2 Kings 2:1 It came to pass, when the LORD would """take up Elijah into heaven by a whirlwind"""
2 Kings 2:11 Behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, & horses of fire, & parted them both asunder; and """Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven""".
Ezekiel 1:1 Now it came to pass in the 13th year, in the 4th month, in the 5th day of the month, as I was among the captives by the river of Chebar, that """the heavens were opened""", and I saw visions of God.
Ezekiel 1:4 I looked, &, """behold, a whirlwind came out of the north""", a great cloud, a fire infolding itself, a brightness was about it, and out of the midst thereof as the colour of amber, out of the midst of the fire.
Matthew 3:16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the """heavens were opened unto him""", and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
Acts 7:56 And said, Behold, """I see the heavens opened""", and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.
Acts 10:11 """And saw heaven opened""", and a certain vessel descending unto him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:
Revelation 4:1 After this I looked, and, behold, """a door was opened in heaven"""
Revelation 19:And """I saw heaven opened""", and behold a white horse;
THIRD HEAVEN SCRIPTURE REFERENCES
Deut 10:14 Behold, the heaven and the heaven of heavens is the LORD'S thy God, the earth also, with all that therein is.
1 Kings 8:27 But will God indeed dwell on the earth? behold, the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain thee; how much less this house that I have builded?
2 Chronicles 6:18 But will God in very deed dwell with men on the earth? behold, heaven and the heaven of heavens cannot contain thee; how much less this house which I have built!
2 Chronicles 6:21 Hearken therefore unto the supplications of thy servant, and of thy people Israel, which they shall make toward this place: hear thou from thy dwelling place, even from heaven; and when thou hearest, forgive.
2 Chronicles 6:39 Then hear thou from the heavens, even from thy dwelling place, their prayer and their supplications, and maintain their cause, and forgive thy people which have sinned against thee.
Eph 4:10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above the heavens, that he might fill all things.
2 Cor 2:2 I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth
Revelation 21:
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
FINAL THOUGHT:
The universecouldn't be created from within. Within means already there. So clearly, God the creator, doesn't live within our observable universe. Although scripture make it clear, He does have the ability to operate inside it.
The fact God exists in a dimension outside of time. Answers another much asked question. Who created God?
Only """within the confines of TIME""" is a beginning or an end necessary.
Time as we know it begins: When God's breathes the breath of life into mans nostrils. And man becomes a living soul. Maranatha
Do you think God has an infinite past and infinite future or just Is?
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Hello Sam,
I believe scriptures teach No beginning & No end
Jesus was born in Bethlehem & is Israel's Ruler
Amplified) Micah 5:2 But you, Bethlehem Ephratah, you are little to be among the clans of Judah; yet out of you shall One come forth for Me Who is to be Ruler in Israel, Whose goings forth have been from of old, from ancient days, eternity.
King James) Micah 5:2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, """from everlasting""".
Am Standard V) Micah 5:2 But thou, Beth-lehem Ephrathah, which art little to be among the thousands of Judah, out of thee shall one come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth are from of old, """from everlasting""".
Darby) Micah 5:2 (And thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, little to be among the thousands of Judah, out of thee shall he come forth unto me [who is] to be Ruler in Israel: whose goings forth are from of old, from the """days of eternity"""".)
Wycliffe) Micah 5:2 And thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, art little in the thousands of Judah; he that is the lordly governor in Israel shall go out of thee to me (but he who shall be the ruler, or the governor, in Israel shall go out of thee to me); and the going out of him is from [the] beginning, from (the) """"days of everlastingness""""".
Living Bible) Micah 5:2 “O Bethlehem Ephrathah, you are but a small Judean village, yet you will be the birthplace of my King who is alive from """""everlasting ages past!"""”
Jesus is a Priest after the order of Melchisedec. (Hebrews 510, 7:17 & Ps 110:4)
Hebrews 7:
1 For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him;
2 To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace;
3 Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.
Scripture says No beginning & No end. Maranatha
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