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Scripture and IMO: "heaven" is ONLY a spiritual realm,

POST #320: "God is the absolute of love and logic."

Where in the Bible does it say that God is "Logical"?

Psalm 145:3
Great is the Lord, and highly to be praised,
And His greatness is unsearchable.

Romans 11:33
Oh, the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are His judgments and unfathomable His ways!

ALL the attributes and characteristics of the TRI-UNE GOD according to the Bible:

1. Existent
2. Unified
3. Simple...Holy...Righteous...perfectly Good...pure
4. Infinite
5. Eternal
6. Unchanging and unchangeable CHARACTER
7. All Present
8. All Sovereign
9. All Knowing
10. All powerful
11. Perfectly JUST
12. Perfectly LOVING / Merciful

13. Perfectly TRUE / Truthful
14. Perfectly FREE
15. Perfectly separate

God hates SIN...God loves SINNERS.

Ultimate SPIRITUAL JUDGMENTS are made BY God of ALL of Man's IMMORTAL SPIRITS
as to spiritual POSITION and PRACTICE.
Christ-followers are not JUDGED as to spiritual POSITION, only spiritual "WORKS"...in or out of the "will of God".

"JUDGMENT of the Believers' Works"
1 Corinthians 3: 10-15 ; 2 Corinthians 5 : 6-10

SENTENCING of UNbelievers....The GREAT WHITE THRONE JUDGMENT...Revelation 20: 11-15 (NASB)

A perfectly JUST God renders perfect JUDGMENTS!

John 5:22
For not even the Father judges anyone, but He has given all judgment to the Son,

John 3:17-18
For God did not send the Son into the world to JUDGE the world, (cosmos)
but that the world might be saved through Him.
He who believes in Him is NOT judged; (as to spiritual position, only WORKS!)
he who does not believe has been judged already,
because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

John 5:24
“Truly, truly, I say to you,
he who hears My word,
and believes Him who sent Me,
has eternal life, and
does not come into JUDGMENT, (as to spiritual position, only WORKS!)
but has passed out of death into (eternal) life

Matthew 16:27
For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels,
and will then repay (reward / loss) every man according to his DEEDS.(WORKS)

Hebrews 10:30
For we know Him who said,
“Vengeance is Mine, I will repay.”
And again,
“The Lord will judge His people.”

James 4:12
There is only one Lawgiver and Judge,
the One who is able to save and to destroy;
but who are you who JUDGE your NEIGHBOR?
(Command #2: "Love your NEIGHBOR as your SELF")

Matthew 25:32,46 ...Jesus: His JUDGMENT of the NATIONS (ethnos) who accept / reject Him
..."punishment: = SEPARATION SPIRITUALLY for eternity

All the NATIONS will be gathered before Him;
and He will separate them from one another, as the shepherd separates the
sheep (believers) from the goats (unbelievers);
46 These (goat NATIONS / unbelievers) will go away into "eternal punishment",
but the righteous (sheep NATIONS / believers) into "eternal life".”
 
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Rodan6

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Indeed you have named an impressive list to describe our loving Father. I would add another:

MATHEW 5:48
"Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect..."

The universe our Father has created is "logical". Each breath we take, each beat of our heart owes it's existence to God's perfect laws. His logic is absolute--Everything He has created has purpose, and while we cannot possibly comprehend ALL of His wondrous works, we are humbly permitted to observe great beauty in that small portion of light visible to our mortal flesh.
 
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No it doesn't. Jesus is the Son of God, and we are made in His image and are the heirs of salvation. You are referring to Job which is commonly thought to mean that angels are are the sons of God. Just because Satan was amongst them doesn't mean they were angels, they are more likely to be humans, descendants of Shem, that were worshipping God. There is another place in psalms that refers to the sons of God praising him at creation, and is also assumed to be angels, but again, the text does not specifically state that they are angels. It is also possible that it refers to men praising Him for the creation. At any rate, the point of view that angels are the sons of God is a tenuous one, whereas we, people who follow Christ are clearly referred to as sons of God.

Weren't the saved people who died in Abraham's bosom at that point?
 
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