He wants EVERYONE saved?

[Petruchio]

I saw on your bio under ministry was the answer picking fights.

Maybe you should add that to your Bio.

Peace and Love
blu

Hypocrisy and intolerance, more like!

 

[98cwitr]

Oh would yall just chill out...mend things...be brothers and not adversaries.

 

[Bluelion]

Oh would yall just chill out...mend things...be brothers and not adversaries.

oh i am fine i just choose not to take part.

 

[98cwitr]

oh i am fine i just choose not to take part.

 

[FredVB]

All the people created are to have a chance for the redemption that has always been according to the will of Yahweh. That God knows some will not respond to this grace with things being shown, with testimony in creation all around, does not change the fact of their choice, the only sense in which there is responsibility. Calvinists generally and maybe you don't understand this aspect. God's knowledge doesn't change this.

 

[Bluelion]

All the people created are to have a chance for the redemption that has always been according to the will of Yahweh. That God knows some will not respond to this grace with things being shown, with testimony in creation all around, does not change the fact of their choice, the only sense in which there is responsibility. Calvinists generally and maybe you don't understand this aspect. God's knowledge doesn't change this.

 

[twin1954]

All the people created are to have a chance for the redemption that has always been according to the will of Yahweh. That God knows some will not respond to this grace with things being shown, with testimony in creation all around, does not change the fact of their choice, the only sense in which there is responsibility. Calvinists generally and maybe you don't understand this aspect. God's knowledge doesn't change this.

Responsibility has nothing to do with being able to choose. That is a false assumption. Responsibility derives from God being our Creator and King. We are obligated to follow His commands whether we are able to or not. The Scriptural picture is of God sitting on a throne as Ruler and King. God's terms of peace with the sinner is never lets get together and work this thing out. He doesn't negotiate with rebels. He never asks His enemies to please choose to be at peace with Him.


God's terms of peace with the sinner is surrender or die.

 

[Avid]

Is not my nature forced? Did I get to choose who I am?

It is not easy, but we chose our fate IN ADAM. It is not a comfortable thought, but it is exemplified often in history. Tribes in the darkest regions of the world CHOSE to be there, and to stay there. They are cut off from the rest of the world on purpose and by choice. That some child there thinks it is not fair is something he must take up with his earthly relatives, and it is God who had (and has) done all the reaching-out.

Our nature is from our father, Adam, and came to us through our earthly fathers from there. This again, is not an easy concept, but it is scriptural.

Ex. 20
5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
Num. 14
18 The LORD is longsuffering, and of great mercy, forgiving iniquity and transgression, and by no means clearing the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation.
Deut. 5
9 Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me,
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This is humbling, because it takes away what man considers a legal argument before God. Your comment is common, and needs to be addressed for people to recognize the sovereignty of God Almighty. As I said, many have gotten angry with God. I think of this as a GOOD thing, because it usually means they have come face to face with the truth, and God is not allowing them to move away till they deal with it!

Let me know if you wish to look deeper into these things.

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[98cwitr]

I do wish to look deeper and totally agree that we are born into Adam.

 

[Bluelion]

Responsibility has nothing to do with being able to choose. That is a false assumption. Responsibility derives from God being our Creator and King. We are obligated to follow His commands whether we are able to or not. The Scriptural picture is of God sitting on a throne as Ruler and King. God's terms of peace with the sinner is never lets get together and work this thing out. He doesn't negotiate with rebels. He never asks His enemies to please choose to be at peace with Him.


God's terms of peace with the sinner is surrender or die.

Got Bible Verses? "God and sinners reconcile".

 

[Bluelion]

I do wish to look deeper and totally agree that we are born into Adam.

Eze 18:20 NLT

19 “‘What?’ you ask. ‘Doesn’t the child pay for the parent’s sins?’ No! For if the child does what is just and right and keeps my decrees, that child will surely live. 20 The person who sins is the one who will die. The child will not be punished for the parent’s sins, and the parent will not be punished for the child’s sins. Righteous people will be rewarded for their own righteous behavior, and wicked people will be punished for their own wickedness. 21 But if wicked people turn away from all their sins and begin to obey my decrees and do what is just and right, they will surely live and not die. 22 All their past sins will be forgotten, and they will live because of the righteous things they have done.

 

[Bluelion]

you could say what I posted conflicts with Exdous 34:7 nlt

“Yahweh! The Lord!
The God of compassion and mercy!
I am slow to anger
and filled with unfailing love and faithfulness.
7 I lavish unfailing love to a thousand generations.[c]
I forgive iniquity, rebellion, and sin.
But I do not excuse the guilty.
I lay the sins of the parents upon their children and grandchildren;
the entire family is affected—
even children in the third and fourth generations.”


So here is faith at work. DO i now lose faith? do I follow away from God and call him a liar? Do i say the Bible can not be trusted?

No! My faith tells me God is truth, so I know He does not lie. My faith Tells me God blessed His world and shall it through and it does not contradicted its self. I know the bible is right. So what is wrong? My understanding?

so I look in The Bible for the answer Lead by The Holy Spirit, and first thing He reminds me is of when Jesus was about to heal a man who was paralyzed and they said who sins is this man afflicted this way his mothers or fathers and Jesus said neither. He was not being punished for his parents sins. So now i see Eze and Jesus confirm so now I know that i understand that correct.

Now why I don't completely understand God had just lead the Jews from slavery, maybe he was speaking of the current people and the sins would in pact to the 3rd and 4th generation. Well that makes sense to me so i will go with that, after all the people were at the bottom of the mountain making a new God to worship. It seems logical that God past judgement on the Jews and relayed it to Moses.

So that is Good enough for me, That is my answer and its fine, its not pressing i know a hundred % but if I did want to know I would look in His Word.

That is faith at work. God kept my faith for me yes He builds it and cultivates it.

People do not see because they have no faith in God, If you have no faith How can you be counted? Abraham was counted righteous by His faith, time and time again Jesus said Have faith. If you have faith as a mustered seed you could say to the mountain be thrown into the sea and it would be.


those spirits speak to me too 98, they said look the bible errors, but my love for God and faith in Him said wait, and The Holy Spirit spoke, and i said oh let me look here or there and God helped me, He came. He is always with His children even if they can not see or feel Him.

Keep faith 98.

 

[98cwitr]

^^^now that's an honest reply sir.

Eze 18:20 NLT

19 “‘What?’ you ask. ‘Doesn’t the child pay for the parent’s sins?’ No! For if the child does what is just and right and keeps my decrees, that child will surely live. 20 The person who sins is the one who will die. The child will not be punished for the parent’s sins, and the parent will not be punished for the child’s sins. Righteous people will be rewarded for their own righteous behavior, and wicked people will be punished for their own wickedness. 21 But if wicked people turn away from all their sins and begin to obey my decrees and do what is just and right, they will surely live and not die. 22 All their past sins will be forgotten, and they will live because of the righteous things they have done.

Works salvation? How do I do right without faith?

 

[Bluelion]

^^^now that's an honest reply sir.



Works salvation? How do I do right without faith?

you feel my others were not honest? wow people tell me I am to honest, i always ask how can you be to honest?

How do you have works with out faith? faith with out works is dead, believe that was James.

 

[Bluelion]

here you go 98 its for you, I know some will say its devil music lol they called Jesus the devil too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaG9SDxwPBg

 

[twin1954]

here you go 98 its for you, I know some will say its devil music lol they called Jesus the devil too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaG9SDxwPBg

Dat music is ub de debil!

 

[98cwitr]

Train...great band

 

[Bluelion]

Like Jesus said peoples own words convict them

 

[98cwitr]

and from the mouth comes the evil of a heart

 

[Bluelion]

something I learned when God said Judge not less you be judged for the measure you use shall be measures back to you. I learned a truth of that, that people can not judge others, now i am not speaking of using Gods judgement he already laid out, but a person using there own opinions thoughts and ideas to judge a person, when a person does that they judge themselves, because the person is not the judge and does not know everything, so a person can judge is their self.