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Having Close Friendships with Unbelievers

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Another thought, are they REALLY a close friend??? A true CLOSE friendship is not known UNTIL it is tried in the crucible of you two socially interacting in and with a group of healthy and/or mature people. Are they loyal to you? Or do they distance themselves from you in distance and/or spatial positioning and body language or in the discussion of the group how do they regard you, not your position, as friends can have differing opinions, but how do they relate to you as a person in the group??? Do they include you by their behavior and words or do they exclude you? Do they confer to you? If they are ashamed of you or really don't like you as a person that much or are more loyal to others, and such, it will probably come out loud and clear. A lot of so-called "friendships" are nothing than two individual associates forming a symbiotic relationship for merely the satisfying of needs which "harmonize" with each other till one is all bled out or till another better "host" comes along.
Okay, I now realize the problem: my definition of a close friend. I do not have an intimate friendship with my younger coworkers, but rather a quality friendship with the hopes of leading them to Christ. This would then be in accordance with the answer from Got Questions Ministries, in which they stated, "Many people have been saved because of the prayers and service of Christians, so don’t turn your back on unbelievers, but having any kind of intimate relationship with an unbeliever can quickly and easily turn into something that is a hindrance to your walk with Christ. We are called to evangelize the lost, not be intimate with them. There is nothing wrong with building quality friendships with unbelievers – but the primary focus of such a relationship should be to win them to Christ by sharing the Gospel with them and demonstrating God’s saving power in our own lives." Thank you for bringing this up, and have a nice day! :)
 
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Therefore, do you think that it is unbiblical, or even a sin, to pursue close friendships with unbelievers if the end goal is to win them to Christ? If not, is it unbiblical to retain your close friendship with unbelievers if they have resisted Christ in the past, with the hope that they may still be saved one day?

The COMMAND of Scripture is to forsake very close relationships of any sort (business, marital, social) with non-believers. Paul explains very clearly why such a command is given:

2 Corinthians 6:14-18
14 Do not be bound together with unbelievers; for what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness?
15 Or what harmony has Christ with Belial, or what has a believer in common with an unbeliever?
16 Or what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; just as God said, "I WILL DWELL IN THEM AND WALK AMONG THEM; AND I WILL BE THEIR GOD, AND THEY SHALL BE MY PEOPLE.
17 "Therefore, COME OUT FROM THEIR MIDST AND BE SEPARATE," says the Lord. "AND DO NOT TOUCH WHAT IS UNCLEAN; And I will welcome you.
18 "And I will be a father to you, And you shall be sons and daughters to Me," Says the Lord Almighty.


There is a natural divergence that happens between one who is saved and those who are not as the saved person forsakes the World, the Flesh and the devil for an ever-deeper, holy communion with God. "Can two walk together unless they be agreed?" the Bible asks (Amos 3:3). The answer is "no." The believer and non-believer cannot "walk together" because they are not agreed upon their ultimate destination. The believer is moving toward God, toward light and life, and an eternity with their holy Maker, and the non-believer toward darkness and death, and an eternity in hell. Their beliefs, values and goals are fundamentally and widely different (or, should be) and this creates a natural divide between the believer and non-believer.

Also, we don't save the lost, God does (John 6:44; 2 Timothy 2:25; John 16:8, etc.). He doesn't need us to form close, intimate relationships with the lost - in contravention of His explicit command not to form such relationships - in order to save those He has known from before the foundation of the World will be saved (Ephesians 1:4-5). God is not dependent upon us to save those whom He will save; He uses us, but we are not crucial to His salvation of the lost. It is a lie, then, to think that the only way a sinner may be saved is by our getting close to them first and gradually influencing them to the Lord. This is how the devil gets us to compromise and position ourselves under the influence of those who don't love Christ.

King Solomon is a sobering example of how powerfully we can be influenced by the wicked and drawn away from God into sin. Though gifted by God with incredible divine wisdom, Solomon compromised in his relationships with women, letting his desire for pagan women overcome his obedience to God. By the end of his life, his pagan wives had moved Solomon to set up places of pagan worship, some of which places were used for human sacrifice! (1 Kings 11:1-8; 2 Kings 23:13) If the wisest man who ever lived could be induced by wicked relationships to such evil, you and I can be certain we, too, will be compromised by disobedience to the commands of 2 Corinthians 6:14-18.

It would be extremely difficult to share Christ with others and show the love of God without building some level of friendship with an unbeliever. Yet, we must be cautious in our friendships with unbelievers. In our attempts to share the love of God with others, we can find ourselves falling to sinful desires if we are around certain people or situations for a long period of time.

We show the greatest love to the lost around us by sharing the Gospel with them. What use befriending a person, taking months or years, perhaps, to establish and foster intimate ties to them, if they die and go to hell before we get around to telling them about the Saviour? None of us knows how much time or opportunity we have to share the Gospel with a lost person. How awful to know the saving truth of Christ but refuse to share it with a lost person because we believe our forming good relational ties to them first is necessary to their being saved. What a clever trick this is that the devil works on Christians, effectively muting them as the bearers of God's "Good News" to the lost and dying.

2 Corinthians 4:3-6
3 ...if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing,
4 in whose case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelieving so that they might not see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.
5 For we do not preach ourselves but Christ Jesus as Lord, and ourselves as your bond-servants for Jesus' sake.
6 For God, who said, "Light shall shine out of darkness," is the One who has shone in our hearts to give the Light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Christ.

Mark 16:15
15 And he said unto them, Go into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
 
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Now, Dr. Charles Stanley's argument to the fact that Jesus was regularly hanging out with sinners and even called "a friend of tax collectors and sinners" was that Jesus was holy and certainly could not be tempted in ways that we are.

That though is actually kind of a heresy. Certainly Jesus was Holy and without sin, but Jesus was and is true man besides being true God etc. according to the creeds that are based on the scriptures. That means that Jesus was genuinely tempted etc. Jesus does not just have a divine mind etc. but Jesus also possess a human soul as well. e.g. Jesus had to learn like we do, in all areas as a baby even be poddy trained etc. This also is why Jesus is a model for our behavior. If Jesus could not genuinely be tempted then he would not be a very good model for us! Jesus also had to be true human to take our sin away since that came through Adam etc. according to Paul in the epistle of Romans.



There is a belief from ancient times called Apollinarianism. And that kind of statement smacks of it.

"Apollinarism or Apollinarianism is a Christological concept proposed by Apollinaris of Laodicea (died 390) that argues that Jesus had a normal human body but a divine mind instead of a regular human soul. It was deemed heretical in 381 and virtually died out within the following decades.[1]"


Now, I have heard and thought much the same thing myself. But this is a mistake, this is an over correction, or over compensation based on many modern movements etc. like the Jesus Seminar, Higher Criticism etc. that tend to deny the Divinity of Christ. But it is not good in fighting false teaching to go to far and actually a completely different error.


Apollinarism - Wikipedia.


OK but for the OP. I disagree not just with Dr. Stanley's theology but also his position. I actually believe it is good to have relationships with people outside of the Faith within reason and with some qualifications. One has to be able to resist peer pressure and not get sucked into things, and some people may not have the will power etc. to do that especially if they have a past history of addiction. Some people can also be toxic and incorrigible, mockers etc. and actually drag you down where Stanley's advice would be appropriate. But it is really hard to be a good witness without having a relationship. Some people are gifted with preaching to strangers, but many people are hard hearted against that sort of thing, especially with all the church scandals and problems that make people cynical but by and large most of us need to do that in little ways in our various friendships, associations etc.
 
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Well there is no good sinner vs very bad sinner :) My best friend where I would sneak out and we would..do very bad things. Christ found me and even though I tried to hang around him I just could not keep doing the same things any more and not to long after Christ found me lead him to Christ.

If they don't know Christ they are enemy to God. Love not the world nor the things in the world <--- this verse has so much depth so to speak to it. Putting Christ first in everything is a free choice and He will not say a word. There SHOULD be some light within us where new or old friends say.. theres something different about you. My thinking is most in fact hide it..its real. With my best friend it was at first to keep doing the same things but I could not. We were friends but to just leave it at that I could not I made a choice to follow Christ so I would every now and then talk about Jesus..I had to.

Thats should be the goal the prize of this race. Never to condemn in any way. I can take time..sorry not good with words... I can think it just hard to put in words.. Pray ask the sweet sweet holy spirit to open the doors and He will. See no matter what the Holy Spirit is convicting the world. He NEVER gives up on them. Its Christ or lost forever GOD FOR BID
 
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If your religion is telling you it is wrong to be friends with others because of not sharing the same beliefs with you, then your religion isn't good. People say Christianity isn't a religion of peace or anything good, and I can see why if certain christians have this mentality.

Never use God to be a cover up for your own conceit.
 
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2Cor 5:20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ’s stead, be ye reconciled to God.

As we are now citizens of Heaven waiting for redemption our relationship should be similar to what we see in our ambassadors here to other nations. An ambassador would not get involved in another nations politics and customs to the point that they are identified with that nation. It should be clear to people around you that you are a friend but not intimate.
 
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2Cor 5:20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ’s stead, be ye reconciled to God.

As we are now citizens of Heaven waiting for redemption our relationship should be similar to what we see in our ambassadors here to other nations. An ambassador would not get involved in another nations politics and customs to the point that they are identified with that nation. It should be clear to people around you that you are a friend but not intimate.

Yes. Notice that although Daniel was a high official in the government of Nebuchadnezzar, he still maintained enough separation from being identified with that government so as to go on to a similar position in the succeeding government of Darius.
 
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The COMMAND of Scripture is to forsake very close relationships of any sort (business, marital, social) with non-believers. Paul explains very clearly why such a command is given:

2 Corinthians 6:14-18
14 Do not be bound together with unbelievers; for what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness?
15 Or what harmony has Christ with Belial, or what has a believer in common with an unbeliever?
16 Or what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; just as God said, "I WILL DWELL IN THEM AND WALK AMONG THEM; AND I WILL BE THEIR GOD, AND THEY SHALL BE MY PEOPLE.
17 "Therefore, COME OUT FROM THEIR MIDST AND BE SEPARATE," says the Lord. "AND DO NOT TOUCH WHAT IS UNCLEAN; And I will welcome you.
18 "And I will be a father to you, And you shall be sons and daughters to Me," Says the Lord Almighty.


There is a natural divergence that happens between one who is saved and those who are not as the saved person forsakes the World, the Flesh and the devil for an ever-deeper, holy communion with God. "Can two walk together unless they be agreed?" the Bible asks (Amos 3:3). The answer is "no." The believer and non-believer cannot "walk together" because they are not agreed upon their ultimate destination. The believer is moving toward God, toward light and life, and an eternity with their holy Maker, and the non-believer toward darkness and death, and an eternity in hell. Their beliefs, values and goals are fundamentally and widely different (or, should be) and this creates a natural divide between the believer and non-believer.

Also, we don't save the lost, God does (John 6:44; 2 Timothy 2:25; John 16:8, etc.). He doesn't need us to form close, intimate relationships with the lost - in contravention of His explicit command not to form such relationships - in order to save those He has known from before the foundation of the World will be saved (Ephesians 1:4-5). God is not dependent upon us to save those whom He will save; He uses us, but we are not crucial to His salvation of the lost. It is a lie, then, to think that the only way a sinner may be saved is by our getting close to them first and gradually influencing them to the Lord. This is how the devil gets us to compromise and position ourselves under the influence of those who don't love Christ.

King Solomon is a sobering example of how powerfully we can be influenced by the wicked and drawn away from God into sin. Though gifted by God with incredible divine wisdom, Solomon compromised in his relationships with women, letting his desire for pagan women overcome his obedience to God. By the end of his life, his pagan wives had moved Solomon to set up places of pagan worship, some of which places were used for human sacrifice! (1 Kings 11:1-8; 2 Kings 23:13) If the wisest man who ever lived could be induced by wicked relationships to such evil, you and I can be certain we, too, will be compromised by disobedience to the commands of 2 Corinthians 6:14-18.



We show the greatest love to the lost around us by sharing the Gospel with them. What use befriending a person, taking months or years, perhaps, to establish and foster intimate ties to them, if they die and go to hell before we get around to telling them about the Saviour? None of us knows how much time or opportunity we have to share the Gospel with a lost person. How awful to know the saving truth of Christ but refuse to share it with a lost person because we believe our forming good relational ties to them first is necessary to their being saved. What a clever trick this is that the devil works on Christians, effectively muting them as the bearers of God's "Good News" to the lost and dying.

2 Corinthians 4:3-6
3 ...if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing,
4 in whose case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelieving so that they might not see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.
5 For we do not preach ourselves but Christ Jesus as Lord, and ourselves as your bond-servants for Jesus' sake.
6 For God, who said, "Light shall shine out of darkness," is the One who has shone in our hearts to give the Light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Christ.

Mark 16:15
15 And he said unto them, Go into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

I already showed that 2 Corinthians 6:14-18 is misapplied. The key is to avoid those who will lead you into sin and those who will lead you away from Christ. But, those who are good people, respect your choices and those in professional relationships that you have a chance to lead to Jesus are OK.
 
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With regard to the cases of believers married to unbelievers, Paul was preaching to a crowd which contained many Gentile women who became believers while their husbands remained pagans. With regard to a believer contemplating marriage with an unbeliever, Paul instructed:

Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. -- 1 Corinthians 6

I Corinthians 7
10-11 To those who are already married my command, or rather, the Lord’s command, is that the wife should not leave her husband. But if she is separated from him she should either remain unattached or else be reconciled to her husband. A husband is not, in similar circumstances, to divorce his wife.

Advice over marriage between Christian and pagan

12-14 To other people my advice (though this is not a divine command) is this. For a brother who has a non-Christian wife who is willing to live with him he should not divorce her. A wife in a similar position should not divorce her husband. For the unbelieving husband is, in a sense, consecrated by being joined to the person of his wife; the unbelieving wife is similarly “consecrated” by the Christian brother she has married. If this were not so then your children would bear the stains of paganism, whereas they are actually consecrated to God.

15-16 But if the unbelieving partner decides to separate, then let there be a separation. The Christian partner need not consider himself bound in such cases. Yet God has called us to live in peace, and after all how can you, who are a wife, know whether you will be able to save your husband or not? And the same applies to you who are a husband.

The text does not say if one converted after or before marriage.
So, I think the text applies to either case.
 
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God was angry with the Israelites whenever they married people of other tribes because He knew that those people would negatively influence them and cause them to worship their idols and this happened several times. You might feel that your well mannered unbelieving friends would have little or no influence on you but there's a good chance that they will. It's always subtle, suggestions, ideas, arguments that they bring to you, trying to convince you to view things their way, this is the reason it's best to keep them at arms length but always remember them in your prayers so that God will lead them to Him

A great example is kings who married pagan women that lead them away from the true God.
 
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If your religion is telling you it is wrong to be friends with others because of not sharing the same beliefs with you, then your religion isn't good. People say Christianity isn't a religion of peace or anything good, and I can see why if certain christians have this mentality.

Never use God to be a cover up for your own conceit.

Hi friend, I think the difference of opinion is weak or new Christians vs older mature Christians.
 
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2Cor 5:20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ’s stead, be ye reconciled to God.

As we are now citizens of Heaven waiting for redemption our relationship should be similar to what we see in our ambassadors here to other nations. An ambassador would not get involved in another nations politics and customs to the point that they are identified with that nation. It should be clear to people around you that you are a friend but not intimate.

Proverbs 16:7
When you please the Lord, you can make your enemies into friends.

2 Corinthians 5:18
All this is done by God, who through Christ changed us from enemies into his friends and gave us the task of making others his friends also.
 
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I Corinthians 7
10-11 To those who are already married my command, or rather, the Lord’s command, is that the wife should not leave her husband. But if she is separated from him she should either remain unattached or else be reconciled to her husband. A husband is not, in similar circumstances, to divorce his wife.

Advice over marriage between Christian and pagan

12-14 To other people my advice (though this is not a divine command) is this. For a brother who has a non-Christian wife who is willing to live with him he should not divorce her. A wife in a similar position should not divorce her husband. For the unbelieving husband is, in a sense, consecrated by being joined to the person of his wife; the unbelieving wife is similarly “consecrated” by the Christian brother she has married. If this were not so then your children would bear the stains of paganism, whereas they are actually consecrated to God.

15-16 But if the unbelieving partner decides to separate, then let there be a separation. The Christian partner need not consider himself bound in such cases. Yet God has called us to live in peace, and after all how can you, who are a wife, know whether you will be able to save your husband or not? And the same applies to you who are a husband.

The text does not say if one converted after or before marriage.
So, I think the text applies to either case.

The text is clear on its face that it does refer to those already married. Paul's advice to the unmarried is to remain single, if possible. But he had already just said earlier in the very same letter not to be yoked to unbelievers.

At this point, then, his instruction is to believers married to believers (a situation Jesus had directly addressed, so he could quote the Lord) and to believers married to unbelievers (a situation Jesus had not addressed, so he could not quote the Lord).
 
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I already showed that 2 Corinthians 6:14-18 is misapplied. The key is to avoid those who will lead you into sin and those who will lead you away from Christ. But, those who are good people, respect your choices and those in professional relationships that you have a chance to lead to Jesus are OK.

Well, as far as God is concerned, those who haven't put their trust in Christ are as follows:

Romans 1:18-23
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness,
19 because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them.
20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse.
21 For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing to be wise, they became fools,
23 and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures.


Romans 3:9-19
9 What then? Are we better than they? Not at all; for we have already charged that both Jews and Greeks are all under sin;
10 as it is written, "THERE IS NONE RIGHTEOUS, NOT EVEN ONE;
11 THERE IS NONE WHO UNDERSTANDS, THERE IS NONE WHO SEEKS FOR GOD;
12 ALL HAVE TURNED ASIDE, TOGETHER THEY HAVE BECOME USELESS; THERE IS NONE WHO DOES GOOD, THERE IS NOT EVEN ONE."
13 "THEIR THROAT IS AN OPEN GRAVE, WITH THEIR TONGUES THEY KEEP DECEIVING," "THE POISON OF ASPS IS UNDER THEIR LIPS";
14 "WHOSE MOUTH IS FULL OF CURSING AND BITTERNESS";
15 "THEIR FEET ARE SWIFT TO SHED BLOOD,
16 DESTRUCTION AND MISERY ARE IN THEIR PATHS,
17 AND THE PATH OF PEACE THEY HAVE NOT KNOWN."
18 "THERE IS NO FEAR OF GOD BEFORE THEIR EYES."
19 Now we know that whatever the Law says, it speaks to those who are under the Law, so that every mouth may be closed and all the world may become accountable to God;


Ephesians 2:1-3
1 And you were dead in your trespasses and sins,
2 in which you formerly walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience.
3 Among them we too all formerly lived in the lusts of our flesh, indulging the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, even as the rest.


Colossians 1:21
21 And although you were formerly alienated and hostile in mind, engaged in evil deeds,


The unbeliever is suppressing the truth of God in unrighteousness; the unbeliever does not understand or seek after God; the unbeliever is bound under the power of the flesh, the World and the devil; the unbeliever is an enemy (hostile) toward God, alienated from Him, and caught up in evil living. Whatever may appear to be the case on the surface, at the core of every unbeliever is this person, living in rebellion toward God, spurning the gracious atoning work of Christ on their behalf, serving Self rather than the Saviour.

The believer, in contrast, is thirsting after God, pursuing daily intimate communion with Him, growing more and more holy, more set apart unto God, every day. Their chief concern is living in a way that pleases their Lord, that honors and glorifies Him at every turn (1 Corinthians 10:31). Such a believer hates sin, and acts to avoid it as much as possible, forsaking the World where such sin is constantly celebrated, submitting themselves, their bodies and souls, to God's control (Romans 8:14; Romans 12:1; James 4:7-10, etc.), and exposing and rejecting the hidden things of darkness wherever they are encountered (Ephesians 5:8-13).

Of course, there are many Christians who are not walking this way with God, who have become lukewarm and compromised in their faith, comfortable with sin, and delighting in the fellowship of sinners. They don't see the problem with linking themselves intimately with those who don't know or love Christ; for they are closer to the sinner in how they are living than to the Saviour. Birds of a feather and all that.

If what Paul says above is true of the unbeliever, though, there can be no such linking, which is exactly what Paul points out in 2 Corinthians 6:14-18.

Am I suggesting that the Christian ought to become a hermit or monk, cloistered away in a monastery, never coming into any contact with the lost? Of course not. We are to love the lost, sharing with them the Gospel, and living among them as salt and light. But while we are among them, we are not of them. We love them with the truth, and with self-sacrificing generosity and grace, but we must not link ourselves to them except in superficial ways, offering a hedge-trimmer, or Christmas gift, or a shoveling of their driveway, or small talk on a sunny morning over the fence, but not close friendship, intimate friendship, and certainly not marriage or close business ties with them.

Again, as the prophet Amos asked, "How can two walk together unless they be agreed?" (Amos 3:3)
 
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If anything, you made me research what ROCD is and it helps me to understand it a lot better now. I get calls at work and even at people tell me they were diagnosed with ROCD - but I didn't take it seriously. Now I understand why people are constantly asking me some of the same questions. Thank you!
 
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Hello, I have frequently come across this issue of whether or not having close friendships with unbelievers is unbiblical or wrong.

Hello. Interesting post!

Many times in life, High School, employment etc I have found myself the only believer in a place. What to do? You either form connections with non-believers or become a public recluse.

If you do not conform to the pattern of the world but instead continue to renew your mind I think it's possible to warily be friends with an unbeliever. As you pointed out, many people have been saved through the witness of a Christian friend. God Bless :)
 
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The text is clear on its face that it does refer to those already married. Paul's advice to the unmarried is to remain single, if possible. But he had already just said earlier in the very same letter not to be yoked to unbelievers.

At this point, then, his instruction is to believers married to believers (a situation Jesus had directly addressed, so he could quote the Lord) and to believers married to unbelievers (a situation Jesus had not addressed, so he could not quote the Lord).

You are reading into the text that they were married before one got saved. The text does not say one way or the other, if one was saved when they got married. After all, it was early in Christian Church.
 
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