Have I committed the unpardonable sin?

Galnaros · Nov 16, 2017

I just want to know. If I truly repent, which I am doing now, maybe not heartfelt but I am. Wouldn't God then take me back in His arms? I am cleaner than anyone I know and yet nothing changes for me. Didn't Jesus promise us to take care of us if we truly repent? Am I not being helped right now because I'm only clean for 1 month now? With clean I mean no sexual sin, alcohol/weed, trying to keep my nasty thoughts in control etc. Only thing I can't stop doing is smoking tabacco. It's just impossible for me to stoo under these circumstances. Could smoking be the problem here?

derelekt · Nov 16, 2017

Galnaros said:
How long did it take you to restore your relationship with God. Did you suffer the same way as I'm suffering right now? Like did you lose your personality, the ability to show any emotion, the desire to actually do things and basically everything else what makes a human a human?

So, I can't really say if I suffered like you but I can tell you this, we all experience deep, dark pain sooner or later in our lives. Great emotional pain that feels unbearable. I can tell you through a combination of being angry at God and the career field I work in, it exposes me to much evil and suffering, I lost the ability to have any compassion. Someone's spouse died? Big deal. I was an unfeeling, cold-hearted individual.

Galnaros said:
What more can I do than lay off bad habits , read my Bible and pray A LOT? I am sure that I was an elect and that my salvation was depending on me fulfilling the role that was set out for me. It was really like the revelation told me "all or nothing". I was ungrateful and didn't respect God as I should have after he ripped me out of my depression and gave me promises of a beautiful life ahead of me. I don't even think that I'm a wicked person even though I really am. There is no remorse or guilt for what I've done and even repenting doesn't change anything for me. I really hope that the church I'm going to visit can fix me. I don't feel actual hope though. I just say that I hope ,but I don't. Do you know what I mean? I know I need forgiveness for sinning against the Holy Spirit but there seems to be none. I read many testimonies of people that were able to at least live a normal life, be it in utter darkness and void of God's love.

What more? Keep praying and keep reading your Bible. Never give up! Fight the good fight. Run to win. The enemy loves a defeated Christian. If God is tugging on your heart, respond to it. The enemy will respond to it by telling you lies. The lies will be that your too far gone (as if you have the ability to move to where God can't reach you). The lies will be that fail, that you can't go back, your rejected. Anything that you might grab hold of out of fear, he will offer it to you. Don't fall for them. Keep your eyes on Jesus.

I begged God to break me of my sin. Be careful what you pray for. He did it. He disciplines those he loves. But it is oh so worth it my friend. You can recover the ability to love. Yourself and others. Ask God to break you AND give you the strength to make it through it. Beg him to use you despite your weaknesses and failures. Own them. Then, give them to God.

Galnaros said:
Why do I get the XL Deluxe suffering package? I just don't understand. I am 22 and there are so many people that do so much more wrong than I do and they are able to live a normal life. Go to school, hang out with friends etc. I really have the urge to just end it all like..tomorrow or any day soon. Things are getting worse after giving up on alcohol and weed. I feel even less motivated to work out and look after myself. Right now I am lying on my bed, don't know what to do because I don't feel like doing anything at all. I start my playstation and after 5 minutes I turn it off and go back to bed pondering on stupid and perverted thoughts my mind keeps producing. What must I do to get out of this hell? I am clueless

discipler7 · Nov 17, 2017

Galnaros said:
I was never really addicted to either alcohol or weed. I was a 'casual' consumer of both keeping it down to weekends only. The symptoms I have, have been there for all this time now. Be it on medicines or off medicines, with or without drugs.

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Children born of alcoholics or drug addicts will also suffer some form of withdrawal symptoms, eg crack-babies and meth-babies. This is similar to all people being born of Adam's Original Sin and are bound for hell if they do not have Jesus Christ in their hearts.

discipler7 · Nov 17, 2017

Galnaros said:
Only thing I can't stop doing is smoking tabacco. It's just impossible for me to stoo under these circumstances. Could smoking be the problem here?

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Nicotine in cigarette-smoking is a mild stimulant. The withdrawal symptoms of nicotine is the opposite of the brain being stimulated, eg lack of motivation, lethargy, lack of emotional well-being, etc. People often use smoking to improve their job/work performance.
... So, if you are addicted to nicotine, ensure that you are on a maintenance dose so as to avoid suffering the horrible withdrawal symptoms, eg the chemical half-life of nicotine is only 2 hours = need to smoke every 3 hours.

In comparison, alcohol is a mild sedative.

eleos1954 · Nov 17, 2017

Nowhere in

discipler7 said:
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Let's look at the story of Job. At the end, Job kept the faith but his wife lost faith, ie she cursed God and died = probably lost her chance at salvation.(cf; 1PETER.3:19 & 4:6)

God permitted Satan to afflict Job and his family because he committed a very ignorant sin/evil-deed against God by making an "insurance" offering to God in the event that his spoiled sons might commit sins. Job feared losing all his hard-earned prosperity by being "a blameless and upright man, one who fears God and shuns evil".(JOB.1:5 & 3:25)
... About 400 years later, through Moses Law at EXODUS.20:5, we now know that the sins/evil-deeds of the sons would not befall on the father or grandfather. So, Job had worried about his sons' sins for nothing. But Job's ignorant sin above befell on his spoiled sons and daughters.

So, whatever suffering we are going through, eg self-inflicted ones through our own sins/evil-deeds/law-breaking, we should never lose faith in God/Jesus, even though sometimes we may not know why we are suffering, like Job. Never curse God/Jesus and die, like the wife of Job.
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LUKE.23: = 33 And when they had come to the place called Calvary, there they crucified Him, and the criminals, one on the right hand and the other on the left. 34 Then Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they do.

Nowhere in the book of Job does it say Job sinned. God allowed Satan to afflict Job to give testimony to the faith of Job in God. Satans stance to God was that Job was faithful to God only because of all the blessings the Lord had bestowed on Job). In the end Job remained faithful even after all the evil things Satan did to him taking everything away from him and inflicting physical pain short of taking his life because that was the only limit God put on Satan. Job didn't know why all these terrible things were happening to him and his family, but never the less, he remained faithful to God through it all.

discipler7 · Nov 17, 2017

eleos1954 said:
Nowhere in the book of Job does it say Job sinned.

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JOB.1:5 = 5 So it was, when the days of feasting had run their course, that Job would send and sanctify them, and he would rise early in the morning and offer burnt offerings according to the number of them all. For Job said, “It may be that my sons have sinned and cursed God in their hearts.” Thus Job did regularly.

JOB.3:25 = 25 For the thing I greatly feared has come upon me,
And what I dreaded has happened to me.

JOB.42:6 = Therefore I abhor myself,
And repent in dust and ashes.”

EXODUS.20:5-7 = For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, 6 but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.

7 “You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.
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If Job did not sinned, why did he repent in front of God.?
... Job was ignorant of his sin/evil-deed. Eg ...
LUKE.23: = 32 There were also two others, criminals, led with Him to be put to death. 33 And when they had come to the place called Calvary, there they crucified Him, and the criminals, one on the right hand and the other on the left. 34 Then Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they do.”

eleos1954 · Nov 17, 2017

If

discipler7 said:
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JOB.1:5 = 5 So it was, when the days of feasting had run their course, that Job would send and sanctify them, and he would rise early in the morning and offer burnt offerings according to the number of them all. For Job said, “It may be that my sons have sinned and cursed God in their hearts.” Thus Job did regularly.

JOB.3:25 = 25 For the thing I greatly feared has come upon me,
And what I dreaded has happened to me.

JOB.42:6 = Therefore I abhor myself,
And repent in dust and ashes.”

EXODUS.20:5-7 = For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, 6 but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.

7 “You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.
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If Job did not sinned, why did he repent in front of God.?
... Job was ignorant of his sin/evil-deed. Eg ...
LUKE.23: = 32 There were also two others, criminals, led with Him to be put to death. 33 And when they had come to the place called Calvary, there they crucified Him, and the criminals, one on the right hand and the other on the left. 34 Then Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they do.”

In Job the controversy between God and Satan was faith. Jobs faithfulness to God. If anything Satan did to Job caused Job to break his faithfulness to God (sin against God) then Satan would have prevailed over the controversy. The purposes of Satan is to lead people to sin against God in one way or another.

In Jobs day the sacrificial system was being practiced and what he did was according to that practice.

Job 1:22 - Through all this Job did not sin nor did he blame God.

J0b 2:10 - But he said to her, “You speak as one of the foolish women speaks. Shall we indeed accept good from God and not accept adversity?” In all this Job did not sin with his lips.

All means ALL.

discipler7 · Nov 17, 2017

eleos1954 said:
In Jobs day the sacrificial system was being practiced and what he did was according to that practice.

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Please show the relevant Scripture where people like Job made burnt offering to God for cases like “It may be that my sons have sinned and cursed God in their hearts.”
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Do you really believe that a loving God will permit Satan to afflict His sons/children with calamities and terminal diseases like cancer, just to test their faith.?
... DEUTERONOMY.28:15- , PROVERBS.1:25-27, ROMANS.2:5-12, 1CORINTHIANS.5:1-13 & 11:30, 1JOHN.5:16-19 say otherwise.
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1JOHN.5: = 16 If anyone sees his brother sinning a sin which does not lead to death, he will ask, and He will give him life for those who commit sin not leading to death. There is sin leading to death. I do not say that he should pray about that. 17 All unrighteousness is sin, and there is sin not leading to death.

Knowing the True—Rejecting the False
18 We know that whoever is born of God does not sin; but he who has been born of God keeps himself, and the wicked one does not touch him.
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DEUT.28: = Curses on Disobedience
15 “But it shall come to pass, if you do not obey the voice of the Lord your God, to observe carefully all His commandments and His statutes which I command you today, that all these curses will come upon you and overtake you:

16 “Cursed shall you be in the city, and cursed shall you be in the country.
17 “Cursed shall be your basket and your kneading bowl.
18 “Cursed shall be the fruit of your body and the produce of your land, the increase of your cattle and the offspring of your flocks.
19 “Cursed shall you be when you come in, and cursed shall you be when you go out.

20 “The Lord will send on you cursing, confusion, and rebuke in all that you set your hand to do, until you are destroyed and until you perish quickly, because of the wickedness of your doings in which you have forsaken Me. 21 The Lord will make the plague cling to you until He has consumed you from the land which you are going to possess. 22 The Lord will strike you with consumption, with fever, with inflammation, with severe burning fever, with the sword, with scorching, and with mildew; they shall pursue you until you perish. 23 And your heavens which are over your head shall be bronze, and the earth which is under you shall be iron. 24 The Lord will change the rain of your land to powder and dust; from the heaven it shall come down on you until you are destroyed.

eleos1954 · Nov 17, 2017

I thought point the discussion was .... Did Job sin? The text is clear .... He did not. We can agree to disagree, I'm sticking with the text. You might find it interesting to look at the original Hebrew and how the Hebrew word(s) are used in various scriptures. Depending on how words are used can provide a deeper understanding. The Hebrew and Greek languages are a lot more "fluent/descriptive" than English. God himself "repents". Here are a couple examples.

KJV
King James Bible
Genesis 6:6
And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
King James Bible
1 Samuel 15:11
It repenteth me (the Lord) that I have set up Saul to be king: for he is turned back from following me, and hath not performed my commandments

A easy and fast way to do this is below. Here you can look at numerous interpretations and get back to the original Hebrew and Greek that often clarifies "seemingly" contradictions and/or confusion. Gods word does not contradict itself but we do sometimes misunderstand things that require us to dig deeper for the true meaning.

www.biblehub.com

Back to the main point. JOB did not sin. The text clearly states this.

eleos1954 · Nov 17, 2017

Galnaros said:
I just want to know. If I truly repent, which I am doing now, maybe not heartfelt but I am. Wouldn't God then take me back in His arms? I am cleaner than anyone I know and yet nothing changes for me. Didn't Jesus promise us to take care of us if we truly repent? Am I not being helped right now because I'm only clean for 1 month now? With clean I mean no sexual sin, alcohol/weed, trying to keep my nasty thoughts in control etc. Only thing I can't stop doing is smoking tabacco. It's just impossible for me to stoo under these circumstances. Could smoking be the problem here?

It is not what YOU do .... it is what Christ does In You. He helps you overcome sin. It is an ongoing process, a lifelong process. Do not compare yourself with other people. This is a relationship between you and God. God hates sin but loves the sinner. He is always there to help you, in His time, in His way. Persevere and have patience until He completes His work in you. God Bless. Glad to hear there is progress being made.

discipler7 · Nov 17, 2017

eleos1954 said:
Back to the main point. JOB did not sin. The text clearly states this.

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Yes, JOB.1:22 & 2:10 say that Job did not sin but that was in the context of not blaming God after he was struck by calamities. Earlier at JOB.1:5, he did sin by making an inappropriate burnt offering to God for 'maybe' sins, based on his own ignorance and misplaced fears or worries.
... In comparison, his foolish wife did the opposite by blaming God for the calamities = she likely cursed God and died(JOB.2:9) = probably lost her chance at salvation. Job did not.

At JOB.42:8, God showed Job and his friends how a proper burnt offering should be done, ie offered for actual sins/evil-deeds and not for 'maybe' sins.

eleos1954 · Nov 17, 2017

"Do you really believe that a loving God will permit Satan to afflict His sons/children with calamities and terminal diseases like cancer, just to test their faith.?

discipler7 said:
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Please show the relevant Scripture where people like Job made burnt offering to God for cases like “It may be that my sons have sinned and cursed God in their hearts.”
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Do you really believe that a loving God will permit Satan to afflict His sons/children with calamities and terminal diseases like cancer, just to test their faith.?
... DEUTERONOMY.28:15- , PROVERBS.1:25-27, ROMANS.2:5-12, 1CORINTHIANS.5:1-13 & 11:30, 1JOHN.5:16-19 say otherwise.
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1JOHN.5: = 16 If anyone sees his brother sinning a sin which does not lead to death, he will ask, and He will give him life for those who commit sin not leading to death. There is sin leading to death. I do not say that he should pray about that. 17 All unrighteousness is sin, and there is sin not leading to death.

Knowing the True—Rejecting the False
18 We know that whoever is born of God does not sin; but he who has been born of God keeps himself, and the wicked one does not touch him.
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DEUT.28: = Curses on Disobedience
15 “But it shall come to pass, if you do not obey the voice of the Lord your God, to observe carefully all His commandments and His statutes which I command you today, that all these curses will come upon you and overtake you:

16 “Cursed shall you be in the city, and cursed shall you be in the country.
17 “Cursed shall be your basket and your kneading bowl.
18 “Cursed shall be the fruit of your body and the produce of your land, the increase of your cattle and the offspring of your flocks.
19 “Cursed shall you be when you come in, and cursed shall you be when you go out.

20 “The Lord will send on you cursing, confusion, and rebuke in all that you set your hand to do, until you are destroyed and until you perish quickly, because of the wickedness of your doings in which you have forsaken Me. 21 The Lord will make the plague cling to you until He has consumed you from the land which you are going to possess. 22 The Lord will strike you with consumption, with fever, with inflammation, with severe burning fever, with the sword, with scorching, and with mildew; they shall pursue you until you perish. 23 And your heavens which are over your head shall be bronze, and the earth which is under you shall be iron. 24 The Lord will change the rain of your land to powder and dust; from the heaven it shall come down on you until you are destroyed.

"Do you really believe that a loving God will permit Satan to afflict His sons/children with calamities and terminal diseases like cancer, just to test their faith.?"

No I believe all good comes from God and all evil is from Satan. We were talking about the story of Job ... in that story, in the context of that story, yes God permitted Satan to do every evil thing to Job except taking Jobs life. We are all afflicted with sin and the consequences of it, however the Lord helps us through our trials no matter how terrible they are. The story of Job was about his unshakeable faith in God. It is important to keep things in context.

Context: The parts of something written or spoken that immediately precede and follow a word or passage and clarify its meaning.

Job did not sin ... in the context of the story of Job it is stated clearly twice.
God allowed Satan in the story of Job to afflict him (Job)

Go back and re-read the story .... in context. And the end of the story is that God abundantly blessed Job.

eleos1954 · Nov 17, 2017

At JOB.42:8, God showed Job and his friends how a proper burnt offering should be done, ie offered for actual sins/evil-deeds and not for 'maybe' sins.

discipler7 said:
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Yes, JOB.1:22 & 2:10 say that Job did not sin but that was in the context of not blaming God after he was struck by calamities. Earlier at JOB.1:5, he did sin by making an inappropriate burnt offering to God for 'maybe' sins, based on his own ignorance and misplaced fears or worries.
... In comparison, his foolish wife did the opposite by blaming God for the calamities = she likely cursed God and died(JOB.2:9) = probably lost her chance at salvation. Job did not.

"At JOB.42:8, God showed Job and his friends how a proper burnt offering should be done, ie offered for actual sins/evil-deeds and not for 'maybe' sins."

This was the Lords rebuking of the 2 friends of Job.

8"Now therefore, take for yourselves seven bulls and seven rams, and go to My servant Job, and offer up a burnt offering for yourselves, and My servant Job will pray for you. For I will accept him so that I may not do with you according to your folly, because you have not spoken of Me what is right, as My servant Job has." 9So Eliphaz the Temanite and Bildad the Shuhite and Zophar the Naamathite went and did as the LORD told them; and the LORD accepted Job. 10The LORD restored the fortunes of Job when he prayed for his friends, and the LORD increased all that Job had twofold.…

God accepted Jobs prayers for the two friends - go look at some other translations and go look at the original Hebrew text.

discipler7 · Nov 17, 2017

discipler7 said:
"Do you really believe that a loving God will permit Satan to afflict His sons/children with calamities and terminal diseases like cancer, just to test their faith.?"

eleos1954 said:
No I believe all good comes from God and all evil is from Satan. We were talking about the story of Job ... in that story, in the context of that story, yes God permitted Satan to do every evil thing to Job except taking Jobs life.

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Besides the Story of Job, can you please give another Scripture where God permitted Satan to afflict His sons/children with calamities and terminal diseases like cancer, just to test their faith.?

Below is a Scripture on how God treated His people of faith, ...

HEBREWS.11: = By Faith We Understand
1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. 2 For by it the elders obtained a good testimony.

3 By faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that the things which are seen were not made of things which are visible.

Faith at the Dawn of History
4 By faith Abel offered to God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, through which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts; and through it he being dead still speaks.

5 By faith Enoch was taken away so that he did not see death, “and was not found, because God had taken him”; for before he was taken he had this testimony, that he pleased God. 6 But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.

7 By faith Noah, being divinely warned of things not yet seen, moved with godly fear, prepared an ark for the saving of his household, by which he condemned the world and became heir of the righteousness which is according to faith.

Faithful Abraham
8 By faith Abraham obeyed when he was called to go out to the place which he would receive as an inheritance. And he went out, not knowing where he was going. 9 By faith he dwelt in the land of promise as in a foreign country, dwelling in tents with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise; 10 for he waited for the city which has foundations, whose builder and maker is God.

11 By faith Sarah herself also received strength to conceive seed, and she bore a child when she was past the age, because she judged Him faithful who had promised. 12 Therefore from one man, and him as good as dead, were born as many as the stars of the sky in multitude—innumerable as the sand which is by the seashore.

eleos1954 · Nov 17, 2017

Using other scriptures is going out of the context of the STORY OF JOB of which we were discussing. We were discussing what was going on in the STORY OF JOB. One can go through and "cherry pick" all kinds of scripture for different things in different contexts. Let me be clear .... SIN and the destruction from it comes from Satan period! Sometimes God intervenes sometimes He does not. In the story of Job God did not intervene short of not allowing Jobs death. Satan was basically telling God that the only reason Job loved God and served Him was because of all the blessings God had bestowed on Job. In the story Satan was proven wrong when all the of Job's blessings were all destroyed by Satan and even so Job remained faithful to God. God intervened in the end and restored blessings to Job, in fact increased them.

That does not mean, nor did I ever say in all cases it is a "test of faith" (you said that in an assumptive question), in that when God does not intervene that it is always testing someones faith. Not so. I did not say that, nor do I believe that.

However, in the context of the Story of Job ... that was clearly what THAT story was about.

It seems you have difficulty staying on topic ..... the topic is/was the story of Job.

Galnaros · Nov 17, 2017

Today I spoke some people who reassured me of me not having committed the unpardonable sin. They said they could see that there is still hope for me and then prayed for me. I reacted to their prayer and got goosebumps all over my body. They offered to rebaptize me. I told them that during my spiritual experience I never focused on what Jesus Christ did for us by dying on the cross. I just experienced the great powers of the Holy Spirit and that was it really. They told me that things are going to be just fine and my baptism takes place tomorrow. I hope that this really is the turning point for me.

Meowzltov · Nov 17, 2017

Galnaros said:
Hello all,

I have already shared my story on this forum somewhere about a year ago. I'm still stuck in the same predicament and I've been wondering if I have committed the unpardonable sin. To summarize my story: I was depressed, as an atheist, around the later part of 2015. Then I prayed, because I was so desperate and my prayer was answered. I found God and I learned what the Holy Spirit was and what It did in my life. I had really never felt better than ever before, it felt as if I became a new human being. I started walking,talking, thinking and doing everything in a new way. I was so happy that I found God and wanted to become a better person after He'd shown me that I was a great sinner before.

Then I started backsliding, severely, and ignoring the revelations and guidance of the Holy Spirit. I didn't want to do certain things that God wanted me to do, because that meant giving up on sin. So I started to love sin again and was a great partaker in it. I kept doing this until my mind got, what I believe is called 'reprobated'. Emotionally flat, no interest in anything, mentally turned inwards and hella confused, concentration and sleeping problems. Summarized: I have nothing left to live for, I don't even love my closest family anymore.

Life is so hard right now and I can't take it much longer. All of this writing doesn't come from actual despair, I don't feel anything at all. I don't even seem to care about God and my past sins anymore, my conscience is seared and it doesn't stop.

I quit smoking weed and drinking alcohol 3 weeks ago , but it hasn't changed anything for me. Hebrews 6 4-6 isn't even bothering me anymore even though I know I fit the picture and I certainly can't be returned to a repentant state. I have rejected the gift of salvation and I'm therefor hellbound. I even saw a part of me slipping into a great red wall of fire when I was on a shrooms trip áfter I had lost the Holy Spirit or close to the end of losing It and I actually felt the heat for a brief moment. I took these shrooms because I wanted to get another revelation. I heard my parents cry that I was gone and then saw that part of me sinking in a pit of fire. I was ungrateful, only loved sin after I had been born again and I'm a terrible person.

Also, there is no actual hatred of self anymore, I don't have to 'forgive myself',because I don't even feel that there's something to forgive. As if I have forgotten about everything I've done in the past. My mind is a mess.
So my question is: Can I fix this situation or am I done here and should I just accept my fate?

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Galnaros said:
Hello all,

I have already shared my story on this forum somewhere about a year ago. I'm still stuck in the same predicament and I've been wondering if I have committed the unpardonable sin. To summarize my story: I was depressed, as an atheist, around the later part of 2015. Then I prayed, because I was so desperate and my prayer was answered. I found God and I learned what the Holy Spirit was and what It did in my life. I had really never felt better than ever before, it felt as if I became a new human being. I started walking,talking, thinking and doing everything in a new way. I was so happy that I found God and wanted to become a better person after He'd shown me that I was a great sinner before.

Then I started backsliding, severely, and ignoring the revelations and guidance of the Holy Spirit. I didn't want to do certain things that God wanted me to do, because that meant giving up on sin. So I started to love sin again and was a great partaker in it. I kept doing this until my mind got, what I believe is called 'reprobated'. Emotionally flat, no interest in anything, mentally turned inwards and hella confused, concentration and sleeping problems. Summarized: I have nothing left to live for, I don't even love my closest family anymore.

Life is so hard right now and I can't take it much longer. All of this writing doesn't come from actual despair, I don't feel anything at all. I don't even seem to care about God and my past sins anymore, my conscience is seared and it doesn't stop.

I quit smoking weed and drinking alcohol 3 weeks ago , but it hasn't changed anything for me. Hebrews 6 4-6 isn't even bothering me anymore even though I know I fit the picture and I certainly can't be returned to a repentant state. I have rejected the gift of salvation and I'm therefor hellbound. I even saw a part of me slipping into a great red wall of fire when I was on a shrooms trip áfter I had lost the Holy Spirit or close to the end of losing It and I actually felt the heat for a brief moment. I took these shrooms because I wanted to get another revelation. I heard my parents cry that I was gone and then saw that part of me sinking in a pit of fire. I was ungrateful, only loved sin after I had been born again and I'm a terrible person.

Also, there is no actual hatred of self anymore, I don't have to 'forgive myself',because I don't even feel that there's something to forgive. As if I have forgotten about everything I've done in the past. My mind is a mess.
So my question is: Can I fix this situation or am I done here and should I just accept my fate?

The answer is very easy to figure out. If you feel remorse and want to repent and return to the Lord, then you haven't committed the unforgivable sin. How do I know? Because the only way you would be drawn back to the Lord is if the Holy Spirit were doing the drawing back.

Paul of Eugene OR · Nov 17, 2017

Galnaros said:
Hello all,

I have already shared my story on this forum somewhere about a year ago. I'm still stuck in the same predicament and I've been wondering if I have committed the unpardonable sin. To summarize my story: I was depressed, as an atheist, around the later part of 2015. Then I prayed, because I was so desperate and my prayer was answered. I found God and I learned what the Holy Spirit was and what It did in my life. I had really never felt better than ever before, it felt as if I became a new human being. I started walking,talking, thinking and doing everything in a new way. I was so happy that I found God and wanted to become a better person after He'd shown me that I was a great sinner before.

Then I started backsliding, severely, and ignoring the revelations and guidance of the Holy Spirit. I didn't want to do certain things that God wanted me to do, because that meant giving up on sin. So I started to love sin again and was a great partaker in it. I kept doing this until my mind got, what I believe is called 'reprobated'. Emotionally flat, no interest in anything, mentally turned inwards and hella confused, concentration and sleeping problems. Summarized: I have nothing left to live for, I don't even love my closest family anymore.

Life is so hard right now and I can't take it much longer. All of this writing doesn't come from actual despair, I don't feel anything at all. I don't even seem to care about God and my past sins anymore, my conscience is seared and it doesn't stop.

I quit smoking weed and drinking alcohol 3 weeks ago , but it hasn't changed anything for me. Hebrews 6 4-6 isn't even bothering me anymore even though I know I fit the picture and I certainly can't be returned to a repentant state. I have rejected the gift of salvation and I'm therefor hellbound. I even saw a part of me slipping into a great red wall of fire when I was on a shrooms trip áfter I had lost the Holy Spirit or close to the end of losing It and I actually felt the heat for a brief moment. I took these shrooms because I wanted to get another revelation. I heard my parents cry that I was gone and then saw that part of me sinking in a pit of fire. I was ungrateful, only loved sin after I had been born again and I'm a terrible person.

Also, there is no actual hatred of self anymore, I don't have to 'forgive myself',because I don't even feel that there's something to forgive. As if I have forgotten about everything I've done in the past. My mind is a mess.
So my question is: Can I fix this situation or am I done here and should I just accept my fate?

Nobody who has committed the unpardonable sin ever worries about having committed the unpardonable sin. Worrying about sin, including the unpardonable sin, is evidence you have not committed the unpardonable sin. Of course, there is still the matter that you need to have sins pardoned. Don't let the worry stop you from seeking pardon. (Hint . . . you have to repent . . )

FutureAndAHope · Nov 18, 2017

Galnaros said:
Isn't faith something that you either have or not? I think I lost my faith. I believe that Christ died once for our sins but there is no actual faith backing it. It's as if I don't care anymore and that is wrong.

I guess it comes down to how much you want eternal life. It is available for you, regardless of your faith level right now.

The fact is that sin has a hardening effect, it makes us less likely to believe. However God allows us to feel hellish torments in this life when we are rebellious, to turn us back to Him. He allows us to think we are going to hell (Job 33:22 We feel death and the grave taking us in their grip. ), to warn us what it would be like to follow a sinful path. But as in Job 33:17 - 30 the reason for this is to turn us back to himself.

Job 33:25-29 Our health is restored, we feel young again, and we ask God to accept us. Then we joyfully worship God, and we are rewarded because we are innocent. When that happens, we tell everyone, "I sinned and did wrong, but God forgave me and rescued me from death! Now I will see the light." God gives each of us chance after chance

discipler7 · Nov 18, 2017

eleos1954 said:
Satan was basically telling God that the only reason Job loved God and served Him was because of all the blessings God had bestowed on Job. In the story Satan was proven wrong when all the of Job's blessings were all destroyed by Satan and even so Job remained faithful to God.

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You need to provide another Scripture from elsewhere to backup your "doctrine" above, as per ...
DEUT.19: = The Law Concerning Witnesses
15 “One witness shall not rise against a man concerning any iniquity or any sin that he commits; by the mouth of two or three witnesses the matter shall be established.

In the story of Job, what I think happened was that God had continued to protect Job from Satan even though Job had ignorantly committed a sin/evil-deed at JOB.1:5. So, justifiably, Satan made a false accusation against Job, in order to get God to remove His protection over Job. It is a known fact that Satan does not make true accusations.
... Like they say, "Ignorance of the Law is no excuse". There are intentional sins which aren't forgiven and unintentional(ignorant) sins which can be forgiven.

In the Bible, there are many Scripture examples of God blessing His people for faithfully obeying His Law/commandments, and vice versa. If it were true that God would permit Satan to take away such blessings from His faithful people just through Satan's false accusations, then all Jews and Christians are living on very shaky and fearful ground.
... If what you say is true, then God would also allow Satan to take away the greatest blessing of salvation unto eternal life from His people just through Satan's false accusation.
... If what you say is true, then God is nothing but a puppet of Satan, ie God can be easily manipulated by Satan to do his evil bidding through false accusations against His people, eg afflict a "sinless" Job with calamities and sicknesses.

Bear in mind that the sinless Jesus Christ had to suffer on the Cross because of Adam's Original Sin,(ROMANS.5:12, LEV.17:11, HEBREWS.9:22) in order to save God's people from hell. Even if Job was sinless, did his suffering save sinners in a similar way as Jesus.? Ie what blessing do you get from God by believing in the Story of Job as you do.?
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The Old Covenant or Contract at DEUT.28 & 29 has God promising to bless His people for faithfully keeping His Law or Moses Law. God would be proven a Liar if He permitted Satan to take away His promised and covenanted blessings, just because of Satan's accusation against His people.
... Did God permit Satan to afflict the Jews with suffering foreign occupation(about 500BC -) because of false accusations by Satan.? Was it not because of their sins and law-breaking.?

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