Halloween?

[Ryoko Ozaki]

I don't see at as being evil at all. I don't celebrate Halloween, Christmas, Easter, or any of those other types of holidays, but I can't say that Halloween is evil since it involves people giving away candy to kids which uses their money and is pretty selfless.

 

[armed2010]

I don't tell my kids about Santa either; other then there is no such thing. My daughter told her cousing this; he cried for about two hours. At least he knows the truth.

JESUS IS THE REASON FOR THE SEASON!!

PEACE IN CHRIST!!!

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[Ryoko Ozaki]

Oh my gosh Isaiah. I know that you can't accept/respect other people's beliefs but you went as far as to not accepting/respecting other people's customs? Why do you have to be so mean to people?

 

[razzelflabben]

Every holiday can be made into a celebration of good or evil. My question to all is this: our children cannot totally escape Halloween so what can you teach your children that is possitive rather than negative about Halloween, God, demons, and our relationships with them. For our family, Halloween is a great oppertuntiy to teach our children about God and how we can't hide from him. How God is the only source of power over evil, etc. It's a great teaching time!

 

[Kira Faye]

From my knowledge "All Hallows Eve" is the time when the fabric between the spirit world and this one is at its thinnist. Like a ouji board mostly evil comes out at all times. I find it a good time to commune with spirits but in protection. Its way to commercialised I feel....kinda like santa taking over christmas...the meaning is quite muddled. I don;t know what to do about this but I think dispelling myths about it would eb a good start and get people knowledgable about the actually meanign might help...Which is what is happening here.

 

[Teh Wiccan]

No problem!! Thank you for your honest response. I already spoke about Christmas and Easter. I know they have pagan origins but like I said, they have been fully baptized as Christian; just like me!! Halloween has not.

People should be able to practice their own holidays!! Why is it a good thing to destroy our way of life?! Please fill me in.

 

[tcampen]

I don't tell my kids about Santa either; other then there is no such thing. My daughter told her cousing this; he cried for about two hours. At least he knows the truth.

JESUS IS THE REASON FOR THE SEASON!!

PEACE IN CHRIST!!!

OUCH! All I can say is OUCH! Hey Isaiah, tell us more moving stories about your holiday gatherings. Then again, perhaps not. And tell your kids to stay away from my daughter!



p.s. This was joking, just joking. Please don't get bent out of shape anyone.

 

[Reverend DSD]

No problem!! Thank you for your honest response. I already spoke about Christmas and Easter. I know they have pagan origins but like I said, they have been fully baptized as Christian; just like me!! Halloween has not.

I agree we do not need to become involved in the 'religious' side of a holiday. But I ask you to understand, that from a Christian perspective; everything Halloween represents is in direct oppositon to our beliefs. Therefore, as a Christian; I would tell other Christians to steer clear of this holiday.

God Bless You!!

PEACE IN CHRIST!!!!!!!

Now hold on a second, first of all how exactly do you "baptize a holiday". Just because you converted, and twisted things around to just happen to fall around the same time periods doesn't make it Christian. You can talk about its roots, but you can't hide from them. As for your comment of "everything Halloween represents is in direct opposition to our beliefs" I personally think you are so far away from the truth it isn't even funny. Halloween is about honoring our dead, the ones we love, and those who have past. So if you are in complete opposition then I think you need to rethink the whole idea of praising Jesus for his work. Because if you refuse or find it inappropriate to celebrate those we hold dear to us that have passed, then you have a lot of pages in the bible to cut out. Just a thought.

Sincerely,
Reverend D.S.D.

(BTW: Keep in mind that whatever those Satanists are doing is opposed to Christianity and if they are going to pick a good day to be opposed to you (as a Christian) it would be on a holiday that you already disagree with. So don't try to pin everything that they are doing on everyone who is celebrating it in the spirit it was originally ment. Also keep in mind that there wouldn't be Satanists if there hadn't been Christians.)

 

[Maria Mante]

I celebrate Halloween. It's lots of fun. But it is NOT evil. Let me repeat that, NOT evil.

It's basis is actually Catholic. The Irish Catholic's brought it over to America.

Halloween is short for "All Hallow's Eve", Which is the day before All Saints Day. On All Hallow's Eve, The veil between the the spiritual world and our world is thin enough for our ancestors to come back and visit us.

It has no evil meanings and is really for good. I don't know where the people in your tape got their idea's, But they aren't true.

 

[Maria Mante]

You know, if it made sense to non-christians, I'd question it's christian integrity. Halloween is and evil holiday, that's my opinion, take it or leave it.

And while I'm on it, I'm not doing Santa either with my children, he's evil too, designed to take away the true meaning of Christmas. I'm not going to LIE to my kids and convince them there is a jolly fat guy at the north pole with little elves. And I hope your kids stay away from mine, cuz I'll tell them the truth "Other parents lie to their children about santa", and I sure hope they pass it along to their little friends. Then when their parents get mad, I'll just tell them "that's what you get for lying to your kids, I'm SORRY my child tells the truth!"

--Michael

Ouch. That's cold. How are you so sure it's a lie? Santa Clause is based on St. Nicholas, Which is a Catholic belief, So, Therefore, Christian. And haven't you ever seen the statue where he is knealing in front of Jesus?

But going and telling other kids that and taking away their beliefs and fun is cruel. How can you do that to a child? They'll eventually grow out of the belief, So why take it before it needs to be?

The true meaning of Christmas is Jesus's birth, And Santa isn't mean't to take that away. He is merely mean't to give children a little joy. And it is not for you to go and tell other children that he is a lie. You can ruin your children's belief and love of Santa Clause, But don't do that to other kids. That's evil in itself.

 

[Reverend DSD]

Now wait Maria, they just might be on to something... The name Santa is very similar to Satan! And they both where red and black and they are never seen together or at all for that matter. But I understand the whole Santa thing because I would be bothered by an old man sneaking into my house, eating my food and leaving me lots of stuff that I want and picking up the bill. We not to stop this raging evil known as Santa Clause, or should I say SATAN CLAWS!


Come on really, Santa Clause being evil. Really that is just insane, when I was a kid I was raised (in my younger years) as catholic. Now believe me I did get a lot of stuff from "Santa Clause". But I still very much knew the meaning behind the Holiday. Don't let it fool you, those who want to know will, wether Santa is there or not!

Sincerely,
Rev. DSD

 

[Teh Wiccan]

I celebrate Halloween. It's lots of fun. But it is NOT evil. Let me repeat that, NOT evil.

It's basis is actually Catholic. The Irish Catholic's brought it over to America.

Halloween is short for "All Hallow's Eve", Which is the day before All Saints Day. On All Hallow's Eve, The veil between the the spiritual world and our world is thin enough for our ancestors to come back and visit us.

It has no evil meanings and is really for good. I don't know where the people in your tape got their idea's, But they aren't true.

Sorry, but Halloween isn't Catholic... Its a Pagan holiday called Samhain, or the start of the colder half of the year.
http://www.neopagan.net/Halloween-Origins.html
Christmas is on the winter solstice, when the days start start to get longer, or the birth of the sun.

 

[Maria Mante]

Samhain is a Pagan Holiday. Halloween is not. Some of the holiday customs from Halloween like trick or treating and wearing costumes could have come from Samhain.

But you have to remember that some of these things were done in other countries to and have become American customs.

 

[Maria Mante]

Samhain is Pagan. Halloween is not. Some of the customs of Halloween may have come from Samhain, Like trick or treating and wearing costumes. But several of these things were done in other countries too. Hallowen is mainly an American celebration.

 

[ACougar]

Halloween is the coopted version of Samhain, and if you don't like the idea of celebrating a Christian holiday that was a Pagan holiday long before Christianity reared it's head, your left with pretty much no holidays. No Christmas, no Easter, no All Hallows Eve, even the days of the week are sanctified with the names of ancient Pagan Gods. Sun and Moon day, Saturn day, Thors day, Wodens day... Our culture has developed for hundreds of thousands of years while Christianity has only been the dominant force for the last thousand. A brief interlude in the religious history of mankind. I can't help but wonder if parents in a thousand years will decry the Christian ancestry of some of thier Pagan holidays..... Now, take a deep breath and slowly allow your perspective to return to it's normal place. hehe Might make you feel better to understand that modern (neo) Paganism owes a great debt to Christianity for the teachings of your Christ also.

 

[razzelflabben]

I would like to take this back a moment to the children and what we teach them, about any holiday. So many, in fact way too many times, we try to force our children to grow up too fast. That includes how they think. Children don't think the same way we do. My grandmother loves to remind me that you can't put a grown persons head on a child. Point being, they simply think differently. Before we force any belief on them, we need to have a glimpse into how they think. Often known as child psycology. Fascinating study. Here is my most resent example. When our fourth child was 8 (she's 7 now) we did our usual giving Jesus a gift for Christmas. Now she has grown up with this idea every year. We allow Santa to come but do not push a the idea, answering our children with honest answers about what Santa represents, and lessons about life and God rather than pushing any one aggenda. Okay so we are in the store purchasing a gift for a poor child for Christmas (that years gift for Jesus) And our daughter just couldn't figure it out, she was becoming very aggitated by the whole thing so I took her asside and told her everything about Santa, from myth to reality. (in 6 year old terms) She totally refused to believe that there was no real Santa. 6 year olds are by and large still living in a fantasy world, one that they have a great deal of trouble distinguishing between real and fantasy. This is natural, not strange. When she was 7, she grasped the whole thing and we have not needed another discussion. In fact, without our prompting, she purposely allows her little brother to continue believing and yells at us if we say anything that might take that fantasy from him. She is very protective the the fantasy world that the 4 year old lives in and is very upset by anyone who tries to force him out of that world. This is truely a wonderful lesson in child psycology.

 

[LovingMother]

Halloween is a religeous holiday, only it began with the Celtic pagan Druids. Their new year began on November 1 and they believed that as the years transitioned, the worlds of life and death were open to each other. The holiday was originally called [font=geneva,arial][size=-1]Samhain (pronounced sow-en). As Christianity (particularly in that time Catholicism) spread, this holiday became the eve of All Saints Day. The word halloween is derived from the Middle English term for All Saints Day which was Alholomesse. Many believe that the Catholic transition of Samhain to All Saints Day was an attempt by the church to replace the pagan holiday with a similar holiday that was sanctioned by the church.

Wearing costumes on Halloween comes from the Samhain, in which the Celts dressed in costumes to celebrate the crossing over of life and death. Trick or treating is probably derived from the later addition of All Souls Day (Nov 2) when, at that time, the poor were encouraged by the church to beg for food from door to door. On this day, families would give the poor "soul cakes" in return for prayers for their dead relatives.

Our family is not pagan or Catholic. Other than the pressures of a somewhat confused society, we have absolutely no reason to celebrate or participate in Halloween festivities and I think that Halloween is a holiday that provides opportunity to those who simply want a reason to abuse those around them. Halloween is not just a big costume party; it has it's roots in the pagan religeon and I just don't want my children celebrating a pagan holiday.

[/size][/font]Christmas is the celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ. Easter is the celebration of His rising. There is no Christian foundation on which I am able to base the celebration of Halloween. There is also no patriotic foundation or reverent foundation. A holiday is a day to celebrate. What are we celebrating on Halloween?

 

[Haylon]

I celebrate Samhain, it is the Wiccan new year, it is not evil or bad, it's a time to reflect on the past year and start anew.

 

[Teh Wiccan]

Samhain is Pagan. Halloween is not. Some of the customs of Halloween may have come from Samhain, Like trick or treating and wearing costumes. But several of these things were done in other countries too. Hallowen is mainly an American celebration.

Think about it like this...

Recently, the Chinese reverse engineered and modified the design of a Soyeuz capsule for their first space flight. Did the chinese make a change or two so it could by used by them? Yes. But at its core design, its Russian.

 

[WayMan]

[/size][/font]Christmas is the celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ. Easter is the celebration of His rising. There is no Christian foundation on which I am able to base the celebration of Halloween. There is also no patriotic foundation or reverent foundation. A holiday is a day to celebrate. What are we celebrating on Halloween?

Christmas, is only a few days after the winter solstice, which is the real begining of the new year. Christmas was declared by the christians so that the newly converted would not feel like they were loosing out on the celebrations. Nobody knows the birth date of Jesus.