Gun Control

[Hank77]

What a complicated way to keep track on guns and shooters. Get rid of the guns, make it mandatory to keep guns in a gun safe and bullets in a different location with the gun's firing mechanism separated from the body of the gun and stop selling guns to people who do not have a justifiable reason for having one - hunting and access to hunting lands, professional target shooter and such.

Anyone who wants to hunt has access to hunting lands. Professional target shooters don't become professionals without access to guns when they are not professionals.

 

[Hank77]

Nearly every rape or home invasion happens just as if no guns were owned by the victims.

That is not even close to being true. I personally know someone in CA who held a home intruder at gun point until the police arrived. That guy had broken into other homes and had beaten an elderly couple when he robbed their home.
You have not been looking at the statistics.

 

[Hank77]

The guns were legal, he had a license for them

This just shows how ignorant you are about gun ownership. People don't get licensed to own a gun, neither are the guns licensed.

 

[GingerBeer]

In Nevada There is now state preemption for firearm registration. Nevada is a "shall issue" state for concealed carry. Open carry is generally permitted throughout the state. For open carry in a vehicle, the firearm may be anywhere except concealed upon the person without a concealed firearm permit. Local authorities may regulate the discharge of firearms. Possession and ownership of an SBR, SBS, machine gun (selective-fire weapon), or silencer, all NFA items, are subject to federal purview and regulation. In November 2016, Nevada voters approved referendum Question 1, changing the law to require background checks for private sales.

 

[Hank77]

Nevada is a "shall issue" state for concealed carry.

One is licensed to 'carry' a concealed weapon, not to own the weapon. Big difference.
Nevada does not require any guns to be registered, hand guns or long guns.

 

[GingerBeer]

One is licensed to 'carry' a concealed weapon, not to own the weapon. Big difference.
Nevada does not require any guns to be registered, hand guns or long guns.

If you feel safer because guns don't need to be licensed then okay. I think it is amazingly short sighted and uncomprehending. The point is obvious however. More guns means more chances of a gun being used to shoot people. No guns means no shootings. Millions of guns means lots of shootings. That is how it happens. Just like no back yard pools means no back yard pool drownings and millions of back yard pools means lots of back yard pool drownings.

 

[Hank77]

If you feel safer because guns don't need to be licensed then okay.

Just correcting your incorrect statement.

I think it is amazingly short sighted and uncomprehending. The point is obvious however. More guns means more chances of a gun being used to shoot people. No guns means no shootings. Millions of guns means lots of shootings. That is how it happens. Just like no back yard pools means no back yard pool drownings and millions of back yard pools means lots of back yard pool drownings.

That is true but not enforceable, neither would it stop people from murdering people.

 

[GingerBeer]

Just correcting your incorrect statement.

That is true but not enforceable, neither would it stop people from murdering people.

repeal the second amendment. simple

 

[Aldebaran]

One is licensed to 'carry' a concealed weapon, not to own the weapon. Big difference.
Nevada does not require any guns to be registered, hand guns or long guns.

In fact, most states don't. I've heard that California requires registration of handguns, but not long guns. I'm not familiar with other states that require any registration. Federal registration of ALL guns is what has been a major goal of the anti-gun crowd.

 

[Aldebaran]

If you feel safer because guns don't need to be licensed then okay. I think it is amazingly short sighted and uncomprehending. The point is obvious however. More guns means more chances of a gun being used to shoot people. No guns means no shootings. Millions of guns means lots of shootings. That is how it happens. Just like no back yard pools means no back yard pool drownings and millions of back yard pools means lots of back yard pool drownings.

What you said about no guns/no shootings, and no back yard pools means no back yard pool drownings is factually correct. However, what is to be done with that information? If the reasoning that the less of something there is, the better because then there is less accidents or fatalities, then we'd have to also have fewer knives, fewer cars, fewer boats, fewer chainsaws, etc., and since fewer is better and one death or accident is too many, then all those things (and more) would eventually be banned on the basis of public safety by decree.

 

[Aldebaran]

No, they would buy them back and then destroy them. Hardly anybody needs a gun.

At what price for each one? There are an estimated 250 to 300 million of them.
Remember too that unless the price is high enough, most people wouldn't comply--especially those who use guns in a criminal way.
On top of that, even honest gun owners would become criminals by law if they decided to keep the guns they own.

 

[Aldebaran]

With the crazies in the congress and the even crazier crazies in the white house you're right. Wait until next time ... maybe the USA will have a sane president then.

You'd have to change the makeup of the legislature of all the states, not just the president. But that's really not up to you anyway. It's up to the voters--the same ones who rejected the democrats' agenda across the country this past election.

 

[Phil 1:21]

At what price for each one? There are an estimated 250 to 300 million of them.
Remember too that unless the price is high enough, most people wouldn't comply--especially those who use guns in a criminal way.
On top of that, even honest gun owners would become criminals by law if they decided to keep the guns they own.

Just tax the 1%! After they pay to clear everyone's student loan debt and then fund college tuition, healthcare, and whatever else Bernie wanted, they can foot the bill to buy back everyone's guns. It doesn't matter to me though, seeing as I don't own any guns (wink-wink).

 

[Aldebaran]

Just tax the 1%! After they pay to clear everyone's student loan debt and then fund college tuition, healthcare, and whatever else Bernie wanted, they can foot the bill to buy back everyone's guns. It doesn't matter to me though, seeing as I don't own any guns (wink-wink).

It doesn't really matter to me either since I wouldn't hand over mine for the small fraction of the price I paid anyway. I've heard of those buy-back programs where they give people maybe $50 or $100 for any gun. Criminals get to get rid of their stolen guns for cash (and the rightful owners never get them back), and guns that cost less than $100 can fetch a profit.

 

[pat34lee]

He shot himself long before anybody broke into his hotel room.

How long is "long before"? Just before they kicked in the door?

 

[pat34lee]

Probably not, but nobody knew he had them there. The guns were legal, he had a license for them. He took them in and nobody saw him do it. Probably in cases or something that concealed them. And now Mr shooter, legal owner of 23 guns, had 12 of them to shoot people from his hotel room window.

I think he had some help from the fast and furious gang.

 

[Servant68]

At what price for each one? There are an estimated 250 to 300 million of them.

99.9% of anti-gun and gun control advocates are terribly ignorant of anything related to firearms. All they know are statistics that have been slanted to fit their agenda and the same old buzz words.

They don't know what guns cost, how they work, the differences in ammunition, the different uses, etc.

And the sad thing is that they don't want to know. They willfully choose to be ignorant because they have made up their mind and it is no longer a subject or decision based on facts or logic or reason, but purely emotional. No amount of presenting the truth will convince them otherwise. Their hearts are hardened.

It's why I rarely debate anyone on gun control; you will never change their minds.

 

[SkyWriting]

That's absolutely crazy

Your propose method isn't going to be a phone app or something that the crowds have. Be realistic please

I already mentioned that a phone ap is possible that would access the information.
The cell network could be the first informed if those frequencies are used.

 

[SkyWriting]

So your detection method foretells the future so they can kill the shooter before he shoots?

The Vegas shooter shot somebody in the hall 6 minutes before anybody else.

 

[SkyWriting]

The Vegas shooter shot somebody in the hall 6 minutes before anybody else.

It shouldn't take security more than 6 minutes to reach the room door.