Gun ban said to include handguns, shotguns

[Panzerkamfwagen]

That's because they DO believe their own rhetoric. That's why we have a thread comparing Obama to Reagan.

Have you seen the light?

 

[Bubbahotep]

This bill would force people who currently own these banned weapons to go through numerous hoops in order to keep them, including another background check, registration, identity certification, fingerprinting, local LEO authorization to own the weapon, and allow for the ATF to do gun inspections at any time.

I will never comply with such intrusive measures. This government is out of control.

 

[Panzerkamfwagen]

This bill would force people who currently own these banned weapons to go through numerous hoops in order to keep them, including another background check, registration, identity certification, fingerprinting, local LEO authorization to own the weapon, and allow for the ATF to do gun inspections at any time.

I will never comply with such intrusive measures. This government is out of control.

I lost it in a boating accident.

 

[Rion]

So you were being deliberately obtuse? I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt as you are generally better than this.

Yes, I'm so evil, I made a light-hearted poke at a poorly worded sentence. Woe is me, indeed.

 

[Rion]

Have you seen the light?

 

[Rion]

One of the most awesome articles ever written on the gun issue. Rather than make yet another gun thread, I'll post it here:

Gun Laws and the Fools of Chelm - Newsweek and The Daily Beast

It actually comes from Newsweek/DailyBeast.

 

[Rion]

Feinstein sets gun hearing - POLITICO.com

Apparently, Frankfeinstein was unhappy with what witnesses at the last hearing had to say.

 

[[serious]]

One of the most awesome articles ever written on the gun issue. Rather than make yet another gun thread, I'll post it here:

Gun Laws and the Fools of Chelm - Newsweek and The Daily Beast

It actually comes from Newsweek/DailyBeast.

"Karl Marx summed up Communism..." and we can stop reading.

 

[Rion]

"Karl Marx summed up Communism..." and we can stop reading.

Yes, because it's best to simply jump to conclusions rather than actually read an article.

 

[Hetta]

This bill would force people who currently own these banned weapons to go through numerous hoops in order to keep them, including another background check, registration, identity certification, fingerprinting, local LEO authorization to own the weapon, and allow for the ATF to do gun inspections at any time.

I will never comply with such intrusive measures. This government is out of control.

If a person is above board, sane and has committed no crimes, they should have no problem submitting another background check. Our guns are recorded with the police, I mean, where are they not?

 

[Bubbahotep]

If a person is above board, sane and has committed no crimes, they should have no problem submitting another background check. Our guns are recorded with the police, I mean, where are they not?

My guns aren't and in my state there is no law requiring such.

And If they are sane and good and all that, then why target them for more background checks and hassling because politicians don't like us having guns that challenge their power?

 

[Blackguard_]

Our guns are recorded with the police, I mean, where are they not?

In the vast majority of the US.

 

[Jeffwhosoever]

My guns aren't and in my state there is no law requiring such.

I once thought that, but found out otherwise.

 

[Glas Ridire]

If a person is above board, sane and has committed no crimes, they should have no problem submitting another background check. Our guns are recorded with the police, I mean, where are they not?

How much will the additional background checks on already owned property cost and who will pay that bill how often? Could kinda start resembling poll taxes and literacy tests as what is being proposed has the same basic function and motives. Test and retest and maybe include a psych-screening and maybe make sure the qualified providers voted right & include enough "have you stopped beating your wife" style questions & if we keep testing and make it expensive enough maybe only white elites will have guns and it will be just like the KKK has wanted all along.

Yeah, in most of America guns are not registered, permits may be needed to purchase them . . . and a background check performed before the permit is issued and then another is performed at the point of sale. . . why would two background checks not be enough? I understand double checking, but when you have to turn the light on and off enough times to be consistently late to work, well, there is a disorder that describes that. That is a fact, so please don't go twisting it into some other kind of statement. When folks re-re-re-re-double check things excessively it is not regarded as healthy. Two checks should be plenty enough.

Private sales right, that was what was next? Most guns traded in private sales are passed back and forth among people who already have guns the many. What difference does it make if someone wants to trade me a 10/22 for my Charger (the same gun design in rifle and pistol form)? What difference if I want to trade an AR15 for two AK47s? Where the buyer is unknown, standard practice is to ask for a photocopy of a purchase permit or carry permit and DL. Since the NICS program is closed to private individuals, verifying a permit which involved the same background check is the best we can do. While I like double checking, the problem would be with the issuing governmental agency if they put a permit in the wrong hands.

 

[Billnew]

My state banned hunting whales off of our shores. It's Oklahoma. Never underestimate the stupidity of politicians.

What? You never went fishing in the gulf of Oklahoma?

 

[JCSr]

My state banned hunting whales off of our shores. It's Oklahoma. Never underestimate the stupidity of politicians.

It is Oklahoma. What else is there to say?

 

[ChristOurCaptain]

So saving whales is stupidity now?

 

[Glas Ridire]

I don't think it is stupid! I think she should fund a study I am planning to research Oklahoma narwhale migrations and family style restaurants

 

[Rion]

It is Oklahoma. What else is there to say?

What state do you live in? I'll find a few of yours.

 

[Rion]

What? You never went fishing in the gulf of Oklahoma?

Yes, but all I caught were Texans.