Gravity

[davedajobauk]

I see 'lots of ripples' in this pond

Let me throw in another brick and see what happens





Imagine ...... a huge expanse of ...N O T H I N G

Nothing, except a 'singularity'.... ~the tiniest speck of energized matter

and this tiny 'speck' is so overloaded, by gravitational forces that it turns inside out
so, releasing it's content into the huge expanse of NOTHING


A SUPERMASSIVE 'Black Hole' so massive
that it collapses under it's own weight and inertia
and bleeds out
in a tumultuous torrent of matter, and gravitational energy

B A N G !!!!!!

Over Millennia
this matter and energy, is dispersed, throughout the expanse of NOTHING
and a "universe", then continues to grow [expand]
Meanwhile, smaller Black Holes grow and grow
and then merge into more massive Black Holes
so dense and heavy that they too, will collapse under their mass and gravity
and bleed, at light-speed, into another 'universe' ~ad infinitum


Ah.... but where is the miracle ?



You are one!!!



dave

 

[AV1611VET]

Hi, Dave!

Ah.... but where is the miracle ?



You are one!!!

A miracle of birth, eh?

 

[Non sequitur]

I see 'lots of ripples' in this pond

Let me throw in another brick and see what happens





Imagine ...... a huge expanse of ...N O T H I N G

Nothing, except a 'singularity'.... ~the tiniest speck of energized matter

and this tiny 'speck' is so overloaded, by gravitational forces that it turns inside out
so, releasing it's content into the huge expanse of NOTHING


A SUPERMASSIVE 'Black Hole' so massive
that it collapses under it's own weight and inertia
and bleeds out
in a tumultuous torrent of matter, and gravitational energy

B A N G !!!!!!

Over Millennia
this matter and energy, is dispersed, throughout the expanse of NOTHING
and a "universe", then continues to grow [expand]
Meanwhile, smaller Black Holes grow and grow
and then merge into more massive Black Holes
so dense and heavy that they too, will collapse under their mass and gravity
and bleed, at light-speed, into another 'universe' ~ad infinitum


Ah.... but where is the miracle ?



You are one!!!



dave

 

[Strathos]

Either you accept that the physical evidence for deep time is there or you don't - and if you do, then you have to believe said evidence was planted there deliberately if you want to believe in a 6000-year-old universe.

 

[Cheeky Monkey]

That is called either Omphalism or Last Thursdayism, depending on the type and amount of history involved.

It ccould be just what it looks like, history.

 

[Cheeky Monkey]

I see 'lots of ripples' in this pond

Let me throw in another brick and see what happens





Imagine ...... a huge expanse of ...N O T H I N G

Nothing, except a 'singularity'.... ~the tiniest speck of energized matter

and this tiny 'speck' is so overloaded, by gravitational forces that it turns inside out
so, releasing it's content into the huge expanse of NOTHING


A SUPERMASSIVE 'Black Hole' so massive
that it collapses under it's own weight and inertia
and bleeds out
in a tumultuous torrent of matter, and gravitational energy

B A N G !!!!!!

Over Millennia
this matter and energy, is dispersed, throughout the expanse of NOTHING
and a "universe", then continues to grow [expand]
Meanwhile, smaller Black Holes grow and grow
and then merge into more massive Black Holes
so dense and heavy that they too, will collapse under their mass and gravity
and bleed, at light-speed, into another 'universe' ~ad infinitum


Ah.... but where is the miracle ?



You are one!!!



dave

Meh, metaphorical miracles are a dime a dozen.

 

[AV1611VET]

It ccould be just what it looks like, history.

If you can't fit all of history into a 6015-year timeframe, then I would say some things need to go.

I realize mathematically that the ratio is 1:759,767.25 years; but then, gradualism & uniformitarianism tend to inflate and make our past longer than it is.

 

[HitchSlap]

If you can't fit all of history into a 6015-year timeframe, then I would say some things need to go.

I realize mathematically that the ratio is 1:759,767.25 years; but then, gradualism & uniformitarianism tend to inflate and make our past longer than it is.

You mean longer as compared to various mythical accounts.

 

[AV1611VET]

You mean longer as compared to various mythical accounts.

You mean like abiogenesis?

No.

 

[HitchSlap]

You mean like abiogenesis?

No.

I mean like mythical creation stories, which are a dime a dozen, and all of them happen to be wrong.

 

[CabVet]

Don't you mean maturity without history?

No, I meant age without history. You still have not defined "maturity".

 

[CabVet]

Ditto for atheists -- that doesn't make them right.

Yeah, so Israel is a miracle for a people that doesn't believe in God? (and by that I am assuming Jesus = God)

 

[Cheeky Monkey]

If you can't fit all of history into a 6015-year timeframe, then I would say some things need to go.

I am not constrained by such presuppositions.

I realize mathematically that the ratio is 1:759,767.25 years; but then, gradualism & uniformitarianism tend to inflate and make our past longer than it is.

Sorry I'm not up to speed on this one. I'll just go with what the evidence of historical events indicates.

 

[AV1611VET]

I mean like mythical creation stories,

Like abiogenesis?

Remember? in the abortionists' mindset, life doesn't begin until after birth; yet [pun]in the same breath[/pun], they claim abiogenesis has yet to be observed.

Scientists, of course, came to Sat... er ... come to their rescue by sticking the word "viable" in there somewhere.*

* I think first it was stuck in the first trimester, then the second, then the third -- now it's just after birth.

 

[AV1611VET]

You still have not defined "maturity".

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[AV1611VET]

Yeah, so Israel is a miracle for a people that doesn't believe in God?

Atheists are going to see a miracle too.

So effective in fact, they will become believers.

 

[CabVet]

Posts: 2,687,494

Sorry, responding to any question with a post count, if anything, is an example of immaturity. Now, can you define maturity or not?

 

[CabVet]

Atheists are going to see a miracle too.

So effective in fact, they will become believers.

It wouldn't really be faith if I needed to see it in order to believe it, would it?

 

[AV1611VET]

I'll just go with what the evidence of historical events indicates.

You mean you'll go with what you're told?

SN1987A, for example, happened how long ago, according to scientific philosophy?

Yet SN1987A is judged to have happened that "long ago" because of its distance -- not because of an observed passage of time.

Is something being seen 10 million light years out?

Why, there's only one conclusion! Its light took 10 million years to get here!

Well, it might be your only conclusion, but for us guys that get accused of being "narrow-minded," we aren't tied down like you guys are.

 

[AV1611VET]

You still have not defined "maturity".

Posts: 2,687,494

Sorry, responding to any question with a post count, if anything, is an example of immaturity. Now, can you define maturity or not?

Sorry, responding to any answer with a goal post move, if anything, is an example of immaturity. Now, can you find where I have defined maturity or not?