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I see this as someone who came to Christianity intellectually, and with an "academic" approach to the faith, instead of personally transforming. As if your faith was in the balance of who has the most factual truth, rather than a personal conviction for your need of reconciliation to God and for a new heart. You measure and compare the biblical records with pagans and naturalists, but is that what the faith is about? Rationalism?

Scripture is not as the others. The heavenliness of the contents, the power of the system of truth, the majesty of the style, the harmony of all the parts, the central focus on giving all glory to God, the full revelation of the only way of salvation, and many other incomparable qualities and complete perfections, all provide abundant evidence that the Scriptures are the word of God. Our full persuasion and assurance of the infallible truth and divine authority of the Scriptures comes from the internal work of the Holy Spirit bearing witness by and with the word in our hearts.

I am praying for you, and still encourage you, to return and to know the Lord Jesus Christ.

"For you have need of endurance, so that when you have done the will of God you may receive what is promised" (Hebrews 10:36).
 
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I would say I came to Orthodoxy intellectually, but was raised Christian. You are correct though, I have never felt I've had a relationship with Christ even when I was a child. I have prayed, cried, and writhed around in the floor in agony over this to no avail. What else can I do eh? That is where the obsession began.
 
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Several figures throughout history come to mind (mostly founders of religions and movements). Whilst Christ's claims to being the son of God make him stand out, there are problems that I will explain below.

If, for whatever reason, you feel the others you mention have done miracles, then I suppose there isn't much hope for you believing Christ is who he is.

As for the "other problems" you mention, I see it all too often, people using intellect to convince themselves of pretty much whatever they choose too. This Christian thing takes a lot of faith, and one example is sometimes we just need to let go, trust God and do as the bible says, as in Proverbs 3:5:

Trust in the LORD with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding;

If we can't do that at times like this when it is paramount for us to keep believing, then it simply isn't going to work.
 
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The problem with using psychedelic drugs for spiritual experiences is that you open your mind to the wiles of demons who are millennia old and much more knowledgeable about history than anyone living in the flesh. They are also more intelligent than someone having read hundreds of thousands of books.

Can DMT open one to these entities? Yes, as well as other chemicals or mediums of influence. And the one whose mind feels to be spiritually liberated is actually being further and further imprisoned, after each successive use, into a construct of reality in which they have created (with the help of demons) and have deified a ‘truth’ they have rationalized using their limited three pound brain, and in effect, replaced God as revealed by Christ with their mind. It is self-idolizing one’s brain and putting their mind to be above the mind of the Church. It is neo-Gnosticism, which was the first heresy the Saints contended with.

The demons know exactly how to promote this, especially to the willing, and they are playing the long game in their goal in the destruction of souls.

You have listed credentials which are neither impressive nor unique. Nothing you wrote is new to many of us. Nothing you referenced is something revealing. You have read a lot of books? I would bet I have read more, and that means little to nothing when the heart is a slave to the mind. You have taken psychedelic drugs, I bet there is no drug you have taken that I haven't as well, and yet no high has touched the soul or spirit more (or revealed more truth and knowledge of God) than a true and sober encounter with Christ, of which you have never really had or have forgotten.

You have spoken with demons? Big deal. You would do better to never have another spiritual experience in your whole life than continue doing so. I am not worthy of God’s grace and my prayer is not to grant me with spiritual experiences but rather to protect me from demons. In this way I have had much less supernatural experiences of heavenly grace but also in tandem with much less confrontations with demonic manifestations. This is much more helpful in this life of repentance than otherwise.

Your doubt is not unique even as you as an individual are. Your struggle is shared by many, even as your own personal experiences are yours alone. And your sin is sadly becoming more and more commonplace as the new “Gnostics” of our times are riding whatever wave the demons are conspiring to lead men away with. Of course now the common channel used (in conjunction with the zeitgeist of the times, as they have always done to fool the suspecting) is “alien encounters”, “intergalactic beings” and “inter dimensional entities”.

Nothing of this should be surprising. Many will fall away as we approach the last days and the wiles of the demons will only increase and strengthen.

I am going to finish by being blunt and not sugarcoating as other have, because the medicine you need is strong and bitter. Your sin is regrettable, but your prideful insistence to come here amongst friends, on a Christian based forum, in order to demote the faith of those here and justify your drug induced “awakening” is the greater sin and what you will be held more accountable for. Watch yourself, so that while you yourself are falling do not bring others down with you. The former is much easier to repent of than the latter.

Go fight your demons and if you need prayers from Christians, than come here and we will pray for you. There is no ill will from anyone posting here that I have seen. Everyone wishes you to find peace. But refrain from coming into this gathering in order to inject your “wisdom” which you know is against the faith of those present, which is simply a means of justifying your doubts and extolling your intellect. That is actually exactly what demons do. Come here instead for encouragement and fellowship, and to share the love for Christ which is what has brought the posters here to this forum. And if you cannot do that, than don’t until you can. That is not simply the Christian way, but the honorable way as well.
 
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I will miss you here and am sorry you have to leave. I have enjoyed and benefited from your posts over the last few years.

You will remain in my daily prayers (as you have been for some time). [Even if you believe they have no effect, I hope you understand they are offered with all goodwill.]
 
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I often hope that if I am worthy of salvation, that in the everlasting that we would be coworkers with the Lord in some sort of ongoing redemption of whoever or whatever is in anguish. It is a speculation & at present, I just pray for myself & others in sincerity while struggling with my hypocrisy. I think the Lord knows what is best for us in our present state & promises us a glorified resurrection if we are faithful.
 
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The sad part of this there are some Christian and Jewish scholars that cover this stuff. (Something I've been studying the last year or so). From a strict Biblical Fundamentalist standpoint this stuff is very damning, but it doesn't have to be for the rest of Christianity, and that goes especially from an EO or Church Fathers mentality based on theosis etc. It is possible to appreciate the Bible and all the ancient genres and tropes in it that are not only pre-Christian but pre-Jewish. IF Salvation is a relationship between Man and God it is entirely reasonable for God to communicate using all those pre-Jewish tropes, iconography etc. to give the early Hebrews his message. Such a thing can go against some extreme radical views of the Bible and Biblical Interpretation that mandate not only inspiration but perfection of the text, but can easily fit into others that are more realistic. historical etc. and recognize how scripture does not just record the divine message but also conveys the culture and personality of the writer.
 
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Thank you for answering my question.


I believe that evil spirits / demons / fallen angels are deceiving your mind.

Messing around with DMT is going to bring you into the spirit realm / "astral plane" through Pharmakia Sorcery (Witchcraft through drug use). Astral Projection and contact with demons / fallen angels is Sorcery.

Even just researching about the occult has had negative side effects for me personally and I think maybe your research into demonology and Enochian magic has opened some doors to the spirit realm to be influenced that should have remained closed.

Ask Saints Cyprian and Justina to pray for you. Saint Cyprian was a black magician before his conversion to Christianity.


The Lives of Sts. Cyprian and Justina








This is how occultists depict Saint Cyprian :








Here's a video about Saints Cyprian and Justina :





• Athanasius of Alexandria (296-373 A.D.)
(On The Incarnation Of The Word - 31)
"By The Sign Of The Cross All Magic Is Stopped, And All Witchcraft Brought To Nothing,



Marius, evil spirits are waring against your soul right now. It's spiritual, so intellectual study isn't going to win the victory. Only prayer, making The Sign Of The Cross, fasting and saying The Jesus Prayer will help.

Start saying morning and evening Orthodox prayers.


Morning Prayers | Antiochian Orthodox Christian Archdiocese

Common Prayers - Morning Prayers

Morning Prayers - Personal and Devotional Prayers - Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America



Here are some prayers for you :

• Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered; and let those who hate Him flee from His presence. As smoke vanishes, let them vanish; and as wax melts from the presence of fire, so let the demons perish from the presence of those who love God and who sign themselves with the Sign of the Cross and say in gladness: Hail, most precious and life-giving Cross of the Lord, for Thou drivest away the demons by the power of our Lord Jesus Christ crucified on thee, Who went down to hell and trampled on the power of the devil, and gave us thee, His venerable Cross, for driving away all enemies.

• Guard me, O Lord, by the power of Thy holy and life-giving Cross, and keep me from all evil


• Prayer Against Demonic Influence
Almighty God, Who delivered Your people from the bondage of the adversary, and through Your Son cast down Satan like lightning, deliver me also from every influence of unclean spirits. Command Satan to depart far from me by the power of Your only begotten Son. Rescue me from demonic imaginings and darkness. Fill me with the light of the Holy Spirit that I may be guarded against all snares of crafty demons. Grant that an angel will always go before me and lead me to the path of righteousness all the days of my life, to the honor of Your glorious Name, Father, Son and Holy Spirit, now and forever. Amen.



Jesus Christ Conquers







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Well I will have to keep you in my prayers. It is sad. I have had plenty of doubts and issues due to many things in life. The difference I really believe that Christianity makes me a better person. One that is more noble, merciful, compassionate etc. In the worst of times that sort of is enough. Besides that it gives me more peace especially when it comes to facing death and life's difficulties. I guess you can say it is a bit of monotheistic Stoicism.

Talking to skeptics and giving counter evidence and arguments etc. A day or so ago, I realized with some people there is never enough. Even though their are Christian answers to all the skeptical problems I don't believe their is going to be enough for some folks bent along those ways. Which is why I believe Jesus mentions "blessed are those who believe in me and never see me", "We walk by Faith and not by sight" etc. There is something in God's Economy that allows answers but not all the details to be clarified for the fussy or those that demand some kind of perfect answer.

But as I have said before "Where you are now is not where you will be in (X amount of time)" That is something more that you would say to a teenager, young adult etc. But I hope it is true for you in spite of all your study. One of the Christian themes that is neglected is the notion of the Life of Faith as a journey. In my younger college years I dropped out of Christianity for 3-4 years, and ultimately was better off for it. When I came back, I explored other areas and realized how many areas of my childhood and the Faith were problematic etc. I hope you also likewise gain something from being away, even though you are a little old for it, hopefully this is part of God's great plan for your life.
 
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No doubt you would be in great shape spiritually if only the way to God were through the cerebral cortex - except it is not. And it sounds like you are doubling down and getting ready to crank that cerebral cortex longer, harder, and deeper.

Or...instead..

‘The Patristic teaching on pain of heart’, Fr Seraphim wrote, ‘is one of the most important teachings for our days when head-knowledge is so over-emphasized at the expense of the proper development of emotional and spiritual life. The lack of this essential experience is what above all is responsible for the dilettantism (superficiality, lack of discipline), the triviality, the want of seriousness in the ordinary study of the Holy Fathers today; without it, one cannot apply the teachings of the Holy Fathers to one’s own life….without pain of heart,one can be a barren fig tree, a boring ‘know it all’ who is always correct…(one) who does not know and cannot convey the true spirit of the Holy Fathers.”
From Fr Seraphim Rose – His Life and Works p. 471-472, by Hieromonk Damascene, St Herman Press 2003
 
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Maybe you are studying too much in that all the info is getting jumbled up and causing you problems. Too much info can be bad. Especially when it comes from the internet.

The Bible is not a history book. If it were, it would be more informative on mans history.

I pray you find your way back my friend. Dont give up on Jesus.

God bless you
 
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And I just want to tell you that I've gone through such spiritual and mental torment that it's hard to put into words. So, just know that I and other Orthodox Christians are now or have experienced similar doubts and torments that you have.

That is why Saint Anthony is my Patron Saint. Even before I was Orthodox his story connected with me.





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It's clear the OP never personally knew the person of Jesus Christ, because when we do and it's personal, He works in our lives. Maybe Jesus will reveal Himself in another way and lure him back . My prayer will be that is the case, in the name of Jesus. Amen

Archeology, mythology and theology will wax cold, there is only one way truth and life and none of those is it. Anyone who has truly received the Spirit knows better, has the experience and ability to see and hear not as the world sees......
 
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Greetings,

There is nothing we’ve undergone that surprises the Lord. Our uncertainty and moments in the wilderness can become powerful tools in His hand.

Sometimes we must live the questions. Even though our quest will cause great pain and truth will come at a price we never expected. I’ve walked that path.

Nevertheless, my anchor is embedded in Him. And my suffering was purposeful. All that I’ve learned and seen was placed at His feet.

And as you live the questions and seek the answers that plague your heart, I trust His providence is walking beside you.

For He has never lost a lamb that belonged to Him. And if He has etched His name upon you, you shall find your way to Him.

And the journey Home is the miracle..the ministry..the purpose of your being. God bless and watch over you.

~Bella
 
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You can not love someone you do not know, you can not know someone without spending time with them. Yo have spent time with other gods, other books, have not spent time alone with God---just you and the bible alone. You do not get to know Cathy by spending your time with Debbie, Joan and Laura and you do not get to know Cathy by reading books about her written by those who don't know her.
God wants your heart, not facts about other gods, ancient history and archeology stored in your brain.

Read this: then get back to just you and the bible and the Holy Spirit. It is read by many denominations as a way back to knowing Jesus. God bless.

http://pdf.amazingdiscoveries.org/eBooks/EGWhite/StepsToChrist.pdf
 
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Just try doing the exact things Christ said, such as in Matthew chapter 5.

Actually try doing these instructions and find out what happens. It's surprising what happens. That's when it became more than just some interesting ideas for me.
 
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