Goodbye

[KleinerApfel]

If someone needs encouragement they can ask, but the OP implied we were too late, he already left, and we are to blame.

I could be wrong, but that's how it felt to me.

 

[msbojingles]

Well, normally I would apologize for offending, but I'm not going to. Watchman is one of my friends (a real friend) and he's a pretty tough guy and knows how to take me (well most of the time ) - so if you think I was being callous and cold - tough.

 

[Jere209]

If someone needs encouragement they can ask, but the OP implied we were too late, he already left, and we are to blame.

I could be wrong, but that's how it felt to me.

Sue, hi..
Part of discernment and discretion, and definitely the wisdom Churchlady talks about, is being able to see and read between the lines.
Sometimes we view things too hastily.
Watchman did not need this thread to take the turn it was taking, and I pray we turned it the other way.
Scripture is full of what we should do when it comes to our tongue. Slow to speak is a good one to remember. Another one is "out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks". When I say something to my brother or sister in Christ, especially over the internet because I cannot see their face, I want to be sure it's what is needed.
The remarks made were not needed.
God bless
Jere

 

[msbojingles]

The remarks made were not needed.
God bless
Jere

Maybe you should ask him instead of speaking for him. Just a thought.

 

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If someone needs encouragement they can ask, but the OP implied we were too late, he already left, and we are to blame.

I could be wrong, but that's how it felt to me.

He is watching this thread. I pm'd him a few hours ago after reading this and got a response.

I'm king of the light-hearted post, but don't make such a post thinking he won't read it and wont be hurt. (not that that would ever be your intention anyway )

 

[Jere209]

Maybe you should ask him instead of speaking for him. Just a thought.

I did not need to ask him. I saw what I saw, felt what I felt, and I did what I thought best.
I did not do it because of anyone else, the Lord Jesus was first on my mind, and when I speak, I truly try to think of what HE would have me to say. As already mentioned, several times before, some situations call for light heartedness, but not all the time.
I did not need to hear from Watchman to know what Jesus would have me to say.

 

[msbojingles]

I did not need to ask him. I saw what I saw, felt what I felt, and I did what I thought best.
I did not do it because of anyone else, the Lord Jesus was first on my mind, and when I speak, I truly try to think of what HE would have me to say. As already mentioned, several times before, some situations call for light heartedness, but not all the time.
I did not need to hear from Watchman to know what Jesus would have me to say.

uh huh. Well, just in case, *I* did ask Watchman just to check.

And yeah, sometimes people need to laugh when they've had a crappy day.

 

[Jere209]

uh huh. Well, just in case, *I* did ask Watchman just to check.

And yeah, sometimes people need to laugh when they've had a crappy day.

Good, I'm glad you did. I pray he's ok with everything.

I agree we need to laugh, laughter is the best medicine for the soul. But, not insensitivity. Watchman is not the only one involved in this thread. As you can see, there's others that share my views, too. God made us all different, and He made me just a bit on the compassionate side. I put myself in the other person's shoes, or try to.

I have someone in my life who just does not think before she speaks, and it amazes me at what comes out of her mouth. She loves, she cares, she loves Jesus, but she doesn't think at what impact her words carry. Not just to the person it's directed to, but to those that hear. It's not any different here on this forum.

God bless
Jere

 

[msbojingles]

Good, I'm glad you did. I pray he's ok with everything.

I agree we need to laugh, laughter is the best medicine for the soul. But, not insensitivity. Watchman is not the only one involved in this thread. As you can see, there's others that share my views, too. God made us all different, and He made me just a bit on the compassionate side. I put myself in the other person's shoes, or try to.

I have someone in my life who just does not think before she speaks, and it amazes me at what comes out of her mouth. She loves, she cares, she loves Jesus, but she doesn't think at what impact her words carry. Not just to the person it's directed to, but to those that hear. It's not any different here on this forum.

God bless
Jere

I understand where you are coming from.

God bless you, too.

 

[Jere209]

I understand where you are coming from.

God bless you, too.

I appreciate you saying this.
We never know who is watching us. We bear the name of Christ, Christian, and should ever be mindful of this. As it says in Ecclesiastes there's a time for everything under the sun, but words spoken can never be taken back.
God bless

 

[ShammahBenJudah]

I add my voice to these. Part of wisdom is discretion and prudence - knowing what kind of response a situation calls for.

This OP called for a response of well wishes and sorrow over someone leaving because they felt they weren't being heard, that their imput was wasted.

When I got up this morning, turned on my computer and read what had been added to this thread, I felt sad for Watchman as I saw it had turned into a joke thread. He obviously needed us to encourage him. His messages were well thought out and needed in the Laodician church of our day.

It wasn't entirely a joking or humorous thread earlier. I see quite a few editorials since I last looked in. I'm thankful that some were considerate enough to reconsider what was said, and hope that as we grow in the nurture and admonition of the Lord, we'll be better able to love and encourage one another.

If I point a finger at anyone, its me. Pray for me...I know I'm a mess sometimes...but I'm His mess.

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Yes, it's a FORUM. A Forum made up of people that have feelings, many of which are overlooked.

That sentiment only seems to apply if you bes in the "clique" though. If you bes not in the "clique" then no one cares about your feelings and if YOU dare speak up for your feelings being considered or respected YOU get shouted down or mocked or told you don't have any legitimate feelings. Someone (in general) sowing that seed may end up reaping its harvest. Not going to apologize for that. It did not see anyone here being mocked or mistreated in this thread, just waves goodbye and well wishes.

Speaking in general, not aimed at anyone -- when someone treats others like dirt they should be grateful NOT to be treated like dirt in kind rather than complaining that no one flocked around them to wipe their tears. "Take care and God bless" does not constitute being cruel to someone. It just signifies -- well it could signify different things from different ppls, but in general, not going there on the drama, don't really know you, or hey, your decision, good luck. But there bes nothing harsh or cruel about it. Just not playing any violins.

RIGHT??? It bes TRYING to go with what you all would tell Moriah if that bes her instead of "Watchman". Has it gotten the CF vibe RIGHT yet??? HMMMM??????

 

[KleinerApfel]

Either I'm right and he did mean we have wasted his time or else I'm wrong and reacting out of my own sense of rejection, which is overactive I admit. If you're reading brother, please let me know if I have offended you. Otherwise, anyone else telling me I'm wrong to expres my feeling about the OP has no business criticising me.

 

[Jere209]

Either I'm right and he did mean we have wasted his time or else I'm wrong and reacting out of my own sense of rejection, which is overactive I admit. If you're reading brother, please let me know if I have offended you. Otherwise, anyone else telling me I'm wrong to expres my feeling about the OP has no business criticising me.

Sue, if you're referring to me telling you are wrong to express your feelings and criticizing you, I apologize if you think I was. I wasn't doing that at all. All I am saying is we need to try and think about what we're saying and how it comes across. If you need to even question if you have offended someone, well, there's a possibility you have.
God bless
jere

 

[KleinerApfel]

Sue, if you're referring to me telling you are wrong to express your feelings and criticizing you, I apologize if you think I was. I wasn't doing that at all. All I am saying is we need to try and think about what we're saying and how it comes across. If you need to even question if you have offended someone, well, there's a possibility you have.
God bless
jere

:o

In fact it wasn't so much your post, it was another, but now you've decided to join in and blame me. I don't believe I was being offensive, but just in case I'm wrong I asked the OP to tell me if he's upset.
That is NOT saying I think I did wrong, but at least 2 of you here think I did!

For goodness sake, all I said was that his use of the phrase "wasting time" implied he blames us for his desire to leave. What is offensive in asking about that?

 

[msbojingles]

Yikes. There's a whole lotta misunderstandings on this thread.

I talked to Watchman on the phone this morning, turns out he actually intended for this thread to be closed with the others he had started (hope you don't mind me spillin' the beans, watchman), so maybe a mod might want to double check with him and make sure - and no, he's not in the least offended at anyone - he doesn't wear his feelings on his shoulder.

It was a "dusting off the feet" thing. He posted some things he felt led to, and when he was done he was done. (HA! He's probably reading this shaking his head)

So there it is, and no Sue, you did not offend him. But don't take my word for it, ask him - he's really much nicer than he sounds (! don't read that part, watchman ).

 

[Joy]

I like Watchman

 

[Jere209]

:o

In fact it wasn't so much your post, it was another, but now you've decided to join in and blame me. I don't believe I was being offensive, but just in case I'm wrong I asked the OP to tell me if he's upset.
That is NOT saying I think I did wrong, but at least 2 of you here think I did!

For goodness sake, all I said was that his use of the phrase "wasting time" implied he blames us for his desire to leave. What is offensive in asking about that?

Oh, Sue..I don't think you personally did anything wrong. Please, go back and read everything again.

I, too, have talked to him, and know the purpose behind the thread.
But, here's the only point I meant to make, and for those of you that know me, know I would not intentionally offend anyone, and I pretty much mean what I say, and say what I mean.

We, as Christians, MUST always be on our guard because we do NOT know who could be watching. Remember the old saying "You're the only Bible they may ever read"? Well, that applies here as well. He posted something, and instead of wondering about it, many of you just blithly said "see ya later", or made light of it. Whether it offended him or not, what about the one that is unsaved that is searching to see if we are any different than the world? what about what they thought? :o

I did not single anyone out here, and yes, I addressed certain posts, but please, read with the ears of the Spirit and see with His eyes.
I don't think any of Watchman's posts have been intended to aggravate anyone, but rather open the eyes of some of us that may have been walking in lukewarm-ness. What did the apostles and prophets of the Bible do? Did they always come with a message making someone feel good? No, but they did come with a message that normally reached down to the soul, to the heart, and said "What are you doing?"

So, with that being said, be blessed.
Jere

 

[icedtea]

- and no, he's not in the least offended at anyone - .

Actually, yes, he was.

 

[irenemcg]

Watchman we may be at opposite ends of the spectrum on a number of things bit you are my brother in Christ and I for one am sad if you feel rejected here, may God bless you in your walk with Him and may He draw you closer and closer to Himself.