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:D I was wondering who would be the first to bite on that. Oh wait, does that mean I was baiting? :o :sorry:

How many Christians does it take to screw in a light bulb again??? ^_^

It takes O christians, christians are supposed to be the light bulb.
the only light shinning in this thread is that of satan when people joke and be scarcastic and mean when someone is LEAVING. We are supposed to be one flock but when someone leaves the sheep laugh and throw rocks at the sheep straying away from the flock could it be there are wolves dressed as sheep within the flock ?? I used to wonder what the word APATHY meant this forum has taught me the exact meaning of the word time and time again.
Brother i am sorry you are leaving i dont know you but i am sure i missed out on coming to know you ,God gave me the oppertunity to know you and i never took the time to even say high and now you are leaving and that sadens me. Brother rod
 
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It takes O christians, christians are supposed to be the light bulb.
the only light shinning in this thread is that of satan when people joke and be scarcastic and mean when someone is LEAVING. We are supposed to be one flock but when someone leaves the sheep laugh and throw rocks at the sheep straying away from the flock could it be there are wolves dressed as sheep within the flock ?? I used to wonder what the word APATHY meant this forum has taught me the exact meaning of the word time and time again.
Brother i am sorry you are leaving i dont know you but i am sure i missed out on coming to know you ,God gave me the oppertunity to know you and i never took the time to even say high and now you are leaving and that sadens me. Brother rod

It's a FORUM. No one is throwing rocks at anyone and anyone who leaves is free to come and go as they please. And every thread on here needs a few jokes to lighten up the vitriolic (I love that word) atmosphere.
 
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It takes O christians, christians are supposed to be the light bulb.
the only light shinning in this thread is that of satan when people joke and be scarcastic and mean when someone is LEAVING. We are supposed to be one flock but when someone leaves the sheep laugh and throw rocks at the sheep straying away from the flock could it be there are wolves dressed as sheep within the flock ?? I used to wonder what the word APATHY meant this forum has taught me the exact meaning of the word time and time again.
Brother i am sorry you are leaving i dont know you but i am sure i missed out on coming to know you ,God gave me the oppertunity to know you and i never took the time to even say high and now you are leaving and that sadens me. Brother rod
You know, no matter what, you're right. We are supposed to be of ONE flock, but sadly, because one views his/her doctrine different than that of the other one, the one is viewed as incorrect. I saw a post yesterday by someone talking about respect, and someone said "to get respect you must earn it". I disagree. If Christ dwells in you, you should automatically show respect towards someone. If they end up being not what you thought, and not deserve that respect, then "don't cast your pearls before swine" and "shake the dust off your feet and move on". But, above all else, we bear the name of Christ, and should bring honor and glory to His name, not shame, nor glory to our name by saying things that our flesh dictate to our brother or sister in Christ.
I don't know Watchman, I've seen some of his posts, but none of angered me, nor pushed me to the point where I was hateful to him.
So, thank you Brother for your post, and the reminder.
I pray we all think about this, and whether the difference of opinions are wide or small, show brotherly love. It's ok to disagree, just do it with respect and dignity.
God bless
Jere
 
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It's a FORUM. No one is throwing rocks at anyone and anyone who leaves is free to come and go as they please. And every thread on here needs a few jokes to lighten up the vitriolic (I love that word) atmosphere.

Yes, it's a FORUM. A Forum made up of people that have feelings, many of which are overlooked. You are right in some cases, Charity. :) But, take a look at the first post, the OP, and see the "tone" and what is written. Sometimes not all threads need to be lightened up. What I saw there was a bit of sadness in his words.

And, you're right about the rock throwing. No one is throwing obvious blatant rocks, but no one is extending a hand either.

God bless
 
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Oh Charity, at times I wonder what your lighting up is, after some of your comments, it makes me wonder who you really are. A person of many faces.

Hey Watchman, sorry to see you go, and I pray that our Lord has released you and you hadn't spat the dummy.

Be blessed in Jesus' Name.
 
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the only light shinning in this thread is that of satan when people joke and be scarcastic and mean when someone is LEAVING. We are supposed to be one flock but when someone leaves the sheep laugh and throw rocks at the sheep straying away from the flock could it be there are wolves dressed as sheep within the flock ?? I used to wonder what the word APATHY meant this forum has taught me the exact meaning of the word time and time again.
Yeah well go figure ... MANY HERE show nothing but calloused cold apathy and scorn, contempt, derision, mockery to other people time and time again ... and when some cry these all laugh and mock and tell them they have no real feelings, deserve no compassion, bring all their problems on themselves, etc. so what do these really expect to REAP from sowing THAT kind of seed HMMMM??? Do they imagine they can sow seed like that regularly and the harvest will NOT be hardened hearts incapable of feeling toward others anymore? YOU ALL planted that seed, don't curse the ground for only doing as it bes built to do. You want something different then SOW something different.
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* not aimed @ you millerrod just speaking in general about the way things go around here
 
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take a look at the first post, the OP, and see the "tone" and what is written. Sometimes not all threads need to be lightened up. What I saw there was a bit of sadness in his words.
Honestly, Moriah did not see that at all -- just a "shake the dust off my feet" statement from someone who felt they had not been received as what they wanted to be regarded as. Very Acts 7:23-29.

And, you're right about the rock throwing. No one is throwing obvious blatant rocks, but no one is extending a hand either.
Be not deceived; God bes not mocked. What men sow, THAT shall they reap.
 
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Honestly, Moriah did not see that at all -- just a "shake the dust off my feet" statement from someone who felt they had not been received as what they wanted to be regarded as. Very Acts 7:23-29.

Be not deceived; God bes not mocked. What men sow, THAT shall they reap.
Hi Moriah..
Moriah may not have saw what I did, but that is what I saw. I read through his other posts, and drew my conclusion.

Yes, we do reap what we sow, that is for sure.
Jere
 
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Oh Charity, at times I wonder what your lighting up is, after some of your comments, it makes me wonder who you really are. A person of many faces.

Hey Watchman, sorry to see you go, and I pray that our Lord has released you and you hadn't spat the dummy.

Be blessed in Jesus' Name.

Well, we're on equal footing then, because I wonder a whole lotta things about you too.
 
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How Christian...some of you can't see the frustration and pain your brother is in, and what's more, it appears you could give a rip about it. There are times here in the forums I could puke over other "christians'" venomous and careless malice one toward another. And the sad thing is that some of the same ones driving his frustration are his loudest critics here...like buzzards...can't wait for him to die so you can gloat over and feed on his carcass.

This forum is an excellent opportunity for us to come together as believers and help one another work through this salvation of ours. Its no simple thing to do and some of us need a lot of help...I know I do.

But it doesn't help anyone if all we have to say puts a demand on the flesh of others. Perhaps if we focused more on the precious gifts that our Father has given each of us, we would find our experience together much more productive and enjoyable.

The power of our enemy to overcome us isn't in the force of a single assault. It comes from his constant badgering and nipping at us, tearing us down little, by little...little foxes spoiling the vines. He wears us down until we're frustrated and wearied in the battle.

When you see your brother grow weary, its time to lift him up. When you see that he's too tired to fight, stand in the gap for him. If you can't lift him up...at least stifle yourself and stop tearing him down. And if you won't stand in the gap, don't be surprised when you find yourself alone the next time you need it...with the same measure you give, it will be given back to you.
 
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Good bye watchman, we may not have agreed on everything (or anything?:p) but that is not the point. Go with God my friend. :prayer: :groupray:

:preach:For the record I don't think anyone was being deliberately spiteful. Just having a little fun! Please can we all not jump to such hasty conclusions before thinking a little longer (I know I need to do that!).:preach:

God bless you all

Simon
 
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God Bess. Don't worry about what others think, but rather what God thinks of you. As long as you spoke the word of God, you haven't fail. Rejoice that God takes pleasure in you. No matter where you go don't leave God's side so that his purpose for you can be accomplished.
 
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No sense in wasting anymore time here..:)
I don't intend this as being antagonistic, so please don't take it that way...

But did you ever consider that your time here was to be a time of learning for you-- not just you "warning" everyone else?

Time spent learning/growing is never wasted... maybe God is trying to expand you, teach you things of His nature you may not yet know.

Blessings!
 
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I have to say, when someone says they're leaving because they think they're wasting their time among us, that sounds to my ears like a rejection and an insult to us who are being turned away from.

I could be wrong of course, but that was the tone I read in the OP.

Watchman, I pray you find a place that is more to your liking, and I am sorry you feel I wasted your time.
 
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the only light shinning in this thread is that of satan when people joke and be scarcastic and mean when someone is LEAVING.

You know, no matter what, you're right. We are supposed to be of ONE flock,

Yes, it's a FORUM. A Forum made up of people that have feelings, many of which are overlooked.

But, take a look at the first post, the OP, and see the "tone" and what is written. Sometimes not all threads need to be lightened up. What I saw there was a bit of sadness in his words.

And, you're right about the rock throwing. No one is throwing obvious blatant rocks, but no one is extending a hand either.

How Christian...some of you can't see the frustration and pain your brother is in, and what's more, it appears you could give a rip about it. There are times here in the forums I could puke over other "christians'" venomous and careless malice one toward another. And the sad thing is that some of the same ones driving his frustration are his loudest critics here...like buzzards...can't wait for him to die so you can gloat over and feed on his carcass.

The power of our enemy to overcome us isn't in the force of a single assault. It comes from his constant badgering and nipping at us, tearing us down little, by little...little foxes spoiling the vines. He wears us down until we're frustrated and wearied in the battle.

When you see your brother grow weary, its time to lift him up. When you see that he's too tired to fight, stand in the gap for him. If you can't lift him up...at least stifle yourself and stop tearing him down. And if you won't stand in the gap, don't be surprised when you find yourself alone the next time you need it...with the same measure you give, it will be given back to you.

I add my voice to these. Part of wisdom is discretion and prudence - knowing what kind of response a situation calls for.

This OP called for a response of well wishes and sorrow over someone leaving because they felt they weren't being heard, that their imput was wasted.

When I got up this morning, turned on my computer and read what had been added to this thread, I felt sad for Watchman as I saw it had turned into a joke thread. He obviously needed us to encourage him. His messages were well thought out and needed in the Laodician church of our day.
 
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