Yeshua HaDerekh
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No the Apostles never said Jesus was raised on Sunday.. It says he was raised at the start of the first day of the week.. The Biblical day starts at sundown.. Not sunrise.. Therefore the start of the first day of the week is saturday sundown..
Saturday sundown is when the Sabbath ended and Sunday began. Your post is nonsense.The Biblical day starts at sundown.. Not sunrise.. Therefore the start of the first day of the week is saturday sundown
I do not have to be concerned with you post because you have slanderously quoted me as saying something to which i never said... You do not deserve the time of day.. let alone a replySaturday sundown is when the Sabbath ended and Sunday began. Your post is nonsense.
That is the same thing...after sundown Saturday night IS Sunday.
A few posts back you said the biblical day starts at sundown. It can't be both.No Sunday starts at 12.00am midnight.
It makes no difference whether you call the day "Sunday" or "Dominicas" or "Κυριακή" or "1st". They all refer to the same day of the week, the day following the weekly Sabbath which was the 7th day of the week.Sunday is not a biblical designation.. It is a roman designation..The Hebrew days where numbered days not named days..
For the purpose of when you can start claiming overtime, we consider a day to start at midnight. For the purpose of studying the Scriptures, we consider a dày to start at sunset. We do not confuse the two.Sunday is a European designation of a different time period..
And you have just mixed two completely different cultural contexts whereas none of us do that. You are in effect falsely accusing us.The Weekly sabbath starts on Friday sunset and goes to Saturday sunset.. The first day of the week is already 6 hours old before Sunday officially starts..
No Sunday starts at 12.00am midnight .. Sunday is not a biblical designation.. It is a roman designation.. The Hebrew days where numbered days not named days.. Sunday is a European designation of a different time period.. The Weekly sabbath starts on Friday sunset and goes to Saturday sunset.. The first day of the week is already 6 hours old before Sunday officially starts..
...what would the first day since He died have been?
Yeshua HaDerekh,
re: "It does not say that... "
What doesn't say what?
Ok then. We are agreed.. Jesus was raised from the dead at the start of the first day of the week. Which starts at saturday sundown..LOL...OK, the first day of the week (Yom Rishon) starts at sundown on the 7th day of the week (Yom Shabbat).
It says "today is the 3rd day since those events happened"...NOT "what would the first day since He died have been". You are deforming scripture to what YOU need and want it to say. Sunday was the 3rd day, Saturday was the 2nd day and Friday was the day those events occurred. There is no day 0. The day he died was the 1st day, the Sabbath was the 2nd and Sunday was the 3rd day.
It would be Friday, although it is probably unlikely that people would use such an expression when speaking of the same day.If the first day of the week was the third day since the Messiah died, what would the first day since He died have been?
No, that is exclusive counting and it has been explained many times that is not how the Jews counted since their numbering system did not have the concept of zero.prodromos,
re: "On Saturday they would say it was the second day since."
Which would have to mean that Friday was the first day since. Thus Thursday would be the day that it happened.
If you learn the observance of Passover from a Jewish perspective, they were not allowed to do any work on the Passover. The arrest, trial and crucifixion were all forms of work. The crucifixion had to occur on the day of preparation for the Passover.No, that is exclusive counting and it has been explained many times that is not how the Jews counted since their numbering system did not have the concept of zero.
The first day since would be the actual day it happened, except no one would use the expression "the first day since".
If you learn the observance of Passover from a Jewish perspective, they were not allowed to do any work on the Passover. The arrest, trial and crucifixion were all forms of work. The crucifixion had to occur on the day of preparation for the Passover.
The Gospel of John has a slightly different account compared to the synoptic Gospels. The chief priests' (Sanhedrin) police force took Jesus to Pilate's Praetorium, but did not go in for they did not want to be made unclean for the Passover. According to the Talmud, if they were unclean for the Passover, they would have to do the ceremony on another day for those who were sick of unclean for the first Passover (Talmud Tractate Pesachim).
Christ said "three days and three nights" which we recognise as synecdoche, given that He also said He would rise "on the third day"Yeshua HaDerekh,
re: "Yeshua was killed on the 14th, Friday..."
So you're saying that the Messiah didn't mean it when He said that He would spend 3 nights in the "heart of the earth"
Now we're back to inclusive counting. You know all this as it has been explained time and again, so why do you continue to play these games?and also didn't mean it when He said that He would rise after 3 days?
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