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Good Friday, a doctrine of men?

Yeshua HaDerekh

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Ken, you are arguing against an eyewitness account on the road to Emmaus. It is Tradition because it is scriptural fact. As I said, the story of Yonah used 3 days/nights so it had to be told that was because it was a comparison. However THAT time period was not and could not be THE sign...resurrection was but Yeshua did not tell them the end game. Remember, He said that they did not believe Moshe or the Nevi'im, so why would they believe one who raised from the dead...
 
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LOL, I am not Roman Catholic. It has been Orthodox teaching from the beginning...but you wouldn't know anything about those 2000 years.
 
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It is Tradition because it is scriptural fact.
Their tradition(catholic tradition you agree with and the error came from) did not come from Scripture and in fact
conflicts with Scripture, in this and many other things as well.

The road to emmaus, every time you repeat it , you get more and more off track, every time you trust men and catholic tradition for this.
 
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Can you count...FROM SCRIPTURE??

And, behold, two of them went that same day to a village called Emmaus...
...But we trusted that it had been he which should have redeemed Israel: and beside all this, today is the third day since these things were done.

So we KNOW that day was Sunday. That day was the THIRD DAY since the events happened on the 14th. So it was Sunday the 16th. Saturday was the 15th and Friday was the 14th...REALLY SIMPLE.
 
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LOL... you use all caps to yell at me... force it in? Brother... you don't understand idioms.

1 Sam 30:12 And they gave him a piece of a cake of figs and two clusters of raisins. So when he had eaten, his strength came back to him; for he had eaten no bread nor drunk water for three days and three nights.
1 Sam 30:13 Then David said to him, "To whom do you belong, and where are you from?" And he said, "I am a young man from Egypt, servant of an Amalekite; and my master left me behind, because three days ago I fell sick.

Just look at the words...

Matthew 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Mark 8:31 And He began to teach them that the Son of Man must suffer many things, and be rejected by the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again.

John 2:19 Jesus answered and said to them, "Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up."

Acts 10:40 Him God raised up on the third day, and showed Him openly,

In three days.
After three days.
On the third day.
Three days and nights.

IN
AFTER
ON

Which one? REALLY SIMPLE? No... not when you ignore idioms... or don't know how to recognize them. The fact that he INCLUDED "and three nights" includes the nights Bob (I don't know your name)... and Friday doesn't give us a third night. Three days AND THREE NIGHTS.

All that said... believe whatever you want. If you keep responding, so will I. Let it go, and so will I. I don't care... we don't differ on the account, we differ on the details. I don't care!
 
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The road to emmaus, every time you repeat it , you get more and more off track, every time you trust men and catholic tradition for this.

No, every time I repeat it...it proves you wrong...
 
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LOL... you use all caps to yell at me... force it in? Brother... you don't understand idioms.
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Idioms have nothing to do with it! It was a specific story, a comparison, that time period was in the story...period.
 
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I just don't see how you can get around an eyewitness account, which by the way, Yeshua did not correct them.

And, behold, two of them went that same day to a village called Emmaus...
...But we trusted that it had been he which should have redeemed Israel: and beside all this, today is the third day since these things were done.

So we KNOW that day was Sunday. That day was the THIRD DAY since the events happened on the 14th. So it was Sunday the 16th. Saturday was the 15th and Friday was the 14th...
 
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12 noon 04/16
12 noon 04/17
12 noon 04/18
12 noon 04/19

4 days or 3 days ?

12 noon 04/17
12 noon 04/18
12 noon 04/19

2 days or 3 days ?

(just try to get a paycheck with your math ! ) work 8 to 16 hours and try to get paid for 24 hours ! See if the boss goes along !
Or work 1 1/2 days , try to get paid for 3 days ,
beecause it is TRADITION!? Yeah? No. The boss won't go for it.

Got quite a simple conundrum there - because of tradition.

Just let 3 days and 3 nights be 3 days and 3 nights ,
and
all is well with Scripture, and on payday with the boss !

Or try to clock out 6 hours early, see how that flies....
 
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None of what you wrote has any bearing on this, although I see you need it to be...also, you are the one that calls Yeshua...Yahshua...so I can see why you need to argue this too.

Again, how do you get around this:

And, behold, two of them went that same day to a village called Emmaus...
...But we trusted that it had been he which should have redeemed Israel: and beside all this, today is the third day since these things were done.

So we KNOW that day was Sunday. That day was the THIRD DAY since the events happened on the 14th. So it was Sunday the 16th. Saturday was the 15th and Friday was the 14th...
 
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today is the third day since these things were done.

So we KNOW that day was Sunday. That day was the THIRD DAY since the events happened on the 14th. So it was Sunday the 16th. Saturday was the 15th and Friday was the 14th...
Let's see ....
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14th Nisan Crucifixion.
Buried at sunset (right before sunset to keep within the law).
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15th Nisan High Sabbath.
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16th Nisan 6th day.
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17th Nisan 7th day Sabbath.
Resurrection at sunset. (just as 1st day beginning)
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18th Nisan Road to emmaus (1st day; sunday)
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No need at all to get around this.
Your error , the same error , gets repeated every time you post it.
 
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Wow, so much wrong! That is 4 days...14th day 1, 15th day 2, 16th day 3, 17th day 4...18th day 5??? LOL
 
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No need at all to get around this.
Your error , the same error , gets repeated every time you post it.
Oh yes, you DO need to get around it, because it PROVES you WRONG!
 
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Just a couple little fish from the web-ocean out there:
(to help if anyone cares to know, further, confirmed long ago):

"According to Jewish law, to be declared legally dead, a person had to be dead for three FULL days or more. Therefore, if Jesus had risen from the dead before 3 PM on the afternoon of Nisan 17, a weekly Sabbath (Saturday), He would not have been considered legally dead. As a result, His return to life would not have been considered a true resurrection from the dead.

"If He had been crucified on a Friday and restored to life on Sunday morning at sunrise (what Christianity calls Easter morning), His death WOULD NOT have been "valid" since only two nights and one day would have passed between Friday sunset and Sunday morning. In order for His death to be publicly recognized and acknowledged, it was necessary for Jesus to remain in the grave for three nights and three days before He was raised from the dead." (HBFV, Appendix J)
 
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Nothing in Scripture about that is there...also, any portion of a day is considered a day...
 
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Wow, so much wrong! That is 4 days...14th day 1, 15th day 2, 16th day 3, 17th day 4...18th day 5??? LOL

From noon yesterday to noon today,
you want to say that's 2 days instead of 1 day? Fine. Go ahead.

From noon yesterday to noon tomorrow, you want to say that's 3 days, instead of 2 days? Fine. Go ahead.

From noon yesterday to noon day after tomorrow,
you want to say that's 4 days instead of 3 days? Fine. Go ahead.

Tradition has done that for over 1000 years, so fine, go ahead.

It sometimes takes years, even decades to overcome the
long ago proven errors of tradition opposed to the Bible.

It won't ever happen for anyone who trusts tradition.

It sometimes takes less than a second.

YHWH'S in charge.
 
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Nothing in Scripture about that is there...also, any portion of a day is considered a day...
according to what tradition you chose to trust.
likely
a church or a school you have trusted and relied on until today,
maybe all your life.
 
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From noon yesterday to noon today,
you want to say that's 2 days instead of 1 day? Fine. Go ahead.

YHWH'S in charge.

It is 2 days, cant you count? Yesterday is day 1 and today is day 2. Yes YHVH IS in charge and thankfully you are not...
 
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