Yes we know you don't believe the doctrine of the Trinity and post here against what you agreed to. Essentially you also disregard the rules here and you expect us to regard the law you also disregard with your amendments.
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Yes we know you don't believe the doctrine of the Trinity and post here against what you agreed to. Essentially you also disregard the rules here and you expect us to regard the law you also disregard with your amendments.I thought the Father and Son were One? You are suggesting otherwise?
This is simply amazing that you'd speak like this about yourself.It's because they do not have real basis to their position that they ask such childish [Hebrews 5:12 KJB] things after their other positions fail them, which is exactly what the pharisees, sadducees, herodians, etc tried to do to Jesus and the disciples.
You need to ask such a question. What did Jesus offer to sabbath keeping Jews? why?No because of Matthew 11:28-30 why?
Wasn't it your group that recently said all things were finished before the world was created citing Hebrews 4:3?You are saying that God had a type/shadow [given because of sin [1 John 3:4 KJB]] to point forward before man sinned?
Has nothing to do with free will. God knows everything even before it happens.Wow. Talk about no free will.
I guess you're trying to be funny. What you're doing is mocking. God knew Adam would sin. God allowed this to show His love. The enemy of our soul is exceedingly jealous.If, Adam sinned, correct.
We know. The Scripture also says in 2 Corinthians 3:15: But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.There is only a dispute between Light and Darkness ... and Darkness cannot see:
Where is the Ark of the Covenant now located and on display for all mankind?
Sorry but the IJ simply doesn't line up with John 5:24. That verse says the Christian has already passed the judgment and has eternal life.The Bible [KJB] doctrine is still called the Investigative Judgment by true Seventh-day Adventists:
The saints do not get to escape judgment, though they have an Advocate, Jesus Christ the Righteous:
Psalms 7:11 KJB - God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry [with the wicked] every day.This also links to the record books in Heaven - COL 2:14-17 The REAL truth from God's Word
Psalms 37:33 KJB - The LORD will not leave him in his hand, nor condemn him when he is judged.
Ecclesiastes 3:17 KJB - I said in mine heart, God shall judge the righteous and the wicked: for there is a time there for every purpose and for every work.
Ecclesiastes 12:14 KJB - For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether [it be] good, or whether [it be] evil.
The investigative judgment is found in type and in prophecy throughout the whole of scripture [KJB]:
In Genesis 2 & 3, we see Eve being deceived into sin, though Adam was warned, and He having warned her, and Adam following in sin, and then "they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day", and God ['Jesus'] investigates, inquiring and asking questions [Genesis 3:9-19; not that God doesn't know, but it is for the benefit of the angels and Adam/Eve and us], having already warned man of the sentence for sin [Genesis 2:17], and then God carries out sentence, but also gives hope [Genesis 3:15].
In Genesis 4, we see Cain and Abel, which both claimed to worship God, yet one was a son of that wicked one, satan. When Abel was killed by Cain, God came down and asked/inquired/investigated of Cain, before sentence was carried out.
In Genesis 6-9, we see that the world was becoming wicked, and while many claimed to follow God, they were already inter-marrying with the children of Cain. God looks upon the world in investigation, before execution of Judgment by the Flood.
In Genesis 10-11, we see that the people again rebelled, and God came down to see and look and investigate, before the execution of Judgment in the separation of the languages.
In Genesis 17-19, we see that God had delivered the people of Lot and Sodom, and yet Sodom did not truly repent, and went further in rebellion, and God came down to see/investigate/judge before execution of Judgment. ...etc...
In Leviticus 16 & 23, we see that Israel, and all that claimed to follow God, was to enter into the time of the typical Day of Atonement, wherein the Priest bore into the Sanctuary, upon the Breast plate of Judgment the people, represented by the stones. Anyone found not to be in harmony with God, in true repentance, was to be cut off at the end of it.
In 1 Kings 3, we see Solomon [type of Christ] having an investigation between two persons [women] over a dead Child [Christ], and a living Child [Christ] to see who really loved the Child. Solomon investigates in a judgment setting upon His throne, and gives a test, and a sentence testing the loyalty of the True mother [true Church, worshippers] and the corruption of heart of the false mother [false church, worshippers].
In Ezra 2, we see an investigative judgment in type:
Ezra 2:61 KJB - And of the children of the priests: the children of Habaiah, the children of Koz, the children of Barzillai; which took a wife of the daughters of Barzillai the Gileadite, and was called after their name:
Ezra 2:62 KJB - These sought their register among those that were reckoned by genealogy, but they were not found: therefore were they, as polluted, put from the priesthood.
Ezra 2:63 KJB - And the Tirshatha said unto them, that they should not eat of the most holy things, till there stood up a priest with Urim and with Thummim.
All of those priests coming back from the captivity of Babylon, had to be able to shew themselves by lineage, and had to pass through an investigation, to continue in their role as priests of God. Christians are kings and priests, a royal priesthood, and we have come out of the captivity. This is seen throughout the whole of scripture [KJB]:
The Scriptures from Genesis to Revelation reveal in type and in Prophecy this great end-time Investigative Judgment, and in Exodus 28:15,29,30 KJB we see the breastplate upon the Highpriest, is called “the breastplate of judgment”.
In Daniel 7, we see God the Father sitting in judgment, with the books of records being opened, and the angels ministering and searching the records, with Jesus present.
In Daniel 12, we see Michael/Jesus standing up, after the searching of the record books of Heaven, and the book of Lifeof the Lamb have been searched and read
In Zechariah 3, we see an investigative judgment, taking place in the Most Holy Place on the day of atonement, with Joshua the High priest.
In Malachi 3, we see God sitting as a refiner, in judgment over his children.
In the Gospels, Jesus himself came to see/investigate/judge Israel, before the execution of Judgment.
In the Gospels, the disciples themselves were sifted, and we can even see this futher with Peter in the courtyard of the Highpriest, with Jesus in the upper room, and so on.
In Matthew 18, we see God taking account of his servants, who had at one point received forgiveness, but later had it revoked.
In Romans 2:13-16, we read of the future judgment of all men, including their secrets by Jesus
In 2 Corinthians 5:10, we read of all having to appear before the judgment seat of Christ
In Hebrews 9, we see this judgment was to begin with the dead, in the time of judgment.
In 1 Peter 4, we see that God, at the time of Peter, was “ready” to judge, and would begin at the time specified in Daniel and in Leviticus 16 & 23.
In Jude 1:15, we read of Jesus second advent to render and to “execute judgment” that was determined beforehand in the investigation.
In Revelation 3:10, 17:12, we see a specific testing of the living professing, that comes after the dead professed [Hebrews 9:27]
In Revelation 11, we see that the very Church, the Temple of God, was to be measured, sometime after the 1,260 years of Daniel.
In Revelation 14, we see the very first Angel's message declare that the time of judgment had begun, and was going forward while the Everlasting Gospel was still being preached.
… and so on.
Notice, that when the Ancient of Days [the person of the Father] sat, multiple thrones were also placed, wherein the angels [which 10,000 etc surrounded Him] also sat, and books were opened. This judgment is for the angels to look into, because they cannot read the human heart as God can, and thus they need to see for themselves that God's judgments were right on who is to be let into a place without sin [Heaven]. The timing of the sequence in Daniel 7 [as shown in context and in chiastic structure, etc] reveals that this phase of judgment takes place after the rise of Rome and its divisions, and before the second advent, and the kingdom come. It is unbreakable in its order. The judgment therein is even taking place while the little horn is still blaspheming on earth, before it is destroyed, before the number of the kingdom of Heaven is made up.
In Daniel 7 is in 4 main parts.
Daniel 7:1-14 KJB the vision of Daniel
Daniel 7:15-18 KJB the super summary of the whole vision by Gabriel [even vss 17,18]
Daniel 7:19-22 KJB Daniel asking about it again, and a specific
Daniel 7:23-28 KJB Gabriel, once more going over the whole in more detail
Thus Daniel, Gabriel, Daniel, Gabriel. Each portion intimately tied to the other, so that the timing thereof cannot be broken between each section.
Daniel 7:22 KJB - Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.
Until [refers to the previous time portion in earlier verse, the leading up to 1844, thus the 1,260 years, 538-1798]
Ancient of Days came, and did sit [refers to 1844 until the close of probation]
judgment was given to the saints of the most High [refers to 1,000 years, see Rev 20:4, "given unto", see also Paul, know ye not that the saints will judge angels [fallen], the world [lost].]
and the time came [end of the 1,000 years, see Rev. 20, Isaiah 24, etc] that the saints posesses the kingdom [being New Heaven and New Earth]
In Ezekiel 1-9, shows the same, wherein a investigative judgment goes forward, and then execution of that judgment takes place after, beginning with the elders of the temple/sanctuary on down to the least.
A very important text to consider:
Proverbs 28:5 KJB - Evil men understand not judgment: but they that seek the LORD understand all things.
LoveGodsWord said: ↑
If you are breaking ANY of God's Commandments you are practicing sin (James 2:8-12)
No Christian is breaking the ten commandment by not keeping the sabbath because it isn't part of the requirements of our covenant. We're not under the law.
This has been done several times. The only thing you're doing here is promoting argument and discord. Oh yeah and spamming the site with your repeated c&p stuff.
That's what I thought. There're 2 ways to take what you said. 1.you didn't read them 2.you ignored them
No your explanation isn't in the verse. I'm asking you a direct question who are the thousands? Are they the whole world?
You need to ask such a question. What did Jesus offer to sabbath keeping Jews? why?
No it doesn't, as one saying of scripture does not negate all the others [John 10:35 KJB]. The text is also conditional based upon faith, notice ["heareth" & "believeth on" [continual ongoing action]]....Sorry but the IJ simply doesn't line up with John 5:24. That verse says the Christian has already passed the judgment and has eternal life.
Heaven:...Where is the Ark of the Covenant now located and on display for all mankind?...
Who is "we"? Be specific please. I would like to know what legion I am dealing with. There are legions of light and legions of darkness [lie-ght].We know.
Are you saying that I am not a believer in Christ, that I am not a Christian? Be specific please. No vagueries. Christians speak words "plain", as it is written, Mark 7:35 KJB.The Scripture also says in 2 Corinthians 3:15: But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart. ...
...Where is the Ark of the Covenant now located and on display for all mankind?...
Nope I am dead to sin serious.I guess you're trying to be funny. ...
Has everything to do with it.Has nothing to do with free will.
Not in dispute at all, and I even said so. I say so again, since it was 'missed'....God knows everything even before it happens.
1 Kings 18:27 KJB - And it came to pass at noon, that Elijah mocked them, and said, Cry aloud: for he is a god; either he is talking, or he is pursuing, or he is in a journey, or peradventure he sleepeth, and must be awaked....What you're doing is mocking. ...
No Christian is breaking the ten commandment by not keeping the sabbath because it isn't part of the requirements of our covenant. We're not under the law.
He offered them the real "rest" from sin [1 John 3:4 KJB]:You need to ask such a question. What did Jesus offer to sabbath keeping Jews? why?
Which was rightly answered here:Is the person who operates the electric generator on the sabbath do your will? Remember they're to observe the sabbath and do no work. Does the law grant permission for you to take advantage of another's sin in working on the sabbath for personal gain?
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