God's 7000 year timeline for mankind.

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Scripture says that when a person dies their soul goes back to God,

Actually it doesn't, it speaks of the spirit that "goeth upward:"


Ecclesiastes 3:19-21
King James Version

19 For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity.

20 All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again.

21 Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth?


And just as we see all throughout Scripture there is a distinction drawn between man's flesh and his spirit.

Not his soul.

The body turns to dust (Genesis 3:19) which leaves the spirit of a man. Adam received a body and a spirit and became a living soul. He didn't receive a soul.


Ezekiel 3:18-21
King James Version

18 When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.

19 Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.

20 Again, When a righteous man doth turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumbling-block before him, he shall die: because thou hast not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he hath done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at thine hand.

21 Nevertheless if thou warn the righteous man, that the righteous sin not, and he doth not sin, he shall surely live, because he is warned; also thou hast delivered thy soul.


Physical life is in view: if a man doth not commit sin he shall live. His blood (death) will not be required of the one who warned him. Communications between two living people.


Ecclesiastes 6:3
If a man beget an hundred children, and live many years, so that the days of his years be many, and his soul be not filled with good, and also that he have no burial; I say, that an untimely birth is better than he.


Clearly speaking of when this person is living.


Joshua 10:38-40
King James Version

38 And Joshua returned, and all Israel with him, to Debir; and fought against it:

39 And he took it, and the king thereof, and all the cities thereof; and they smote them with the edge of the sword, and utterly destroyed all the souls that were therein; he left none remaining: as he had done to Hebron, so he did to Debir, and to the king thereof; as he had done also to Libnah, and to her king.

40 So Joshua smote all the country of the hills, and of the south, and of the vale, and of the springs, and all their kings: he left none remaining, but utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the Lord God of Israel commanded.


Did Joshua wreak eternal vengeance here? Or just kill the people in their physical frames?

He physically killed those that had the breath of life in them. But as Christ teaches, that was all Joshua could do (Matthew 10:28).

Soul Sleep is proof-texted by misunderstanding the use of the word "soul." Here's a proof text that "proves" all men come from Hell to be born into this world:


Psalm 86:13
For great is thy mercy toward me: and thou hast delivered my soul from the lowest hell.


The Psalmist is alive and has been delivered from Hell, hence all men are taken from Hell so they can be delivered into this world.

That makes about as much sense as men go into the grave when they die and await there in sleep until the Great White Throne judgment.

The deliverance obviously takes place while the man is alive and has not correlation to his disposition after death.

We know how man was created:


Genesis 2:7
And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.


Man became a living soul, he didn't receive one.


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Scripture says that when a person dies their soul goes back to God, who made it and because with God there is no time;

Again, I see a reference to the spirit, not the soul.

If you have a verse that says the soul goes back to God it would have been good to include that with your teaching.

then at the Great White Throne Judgement, after the Millennium, that soul; along with every soul that ever lived, is made conscious again at the time of Judgement. Revelation 20:12

Nothing in Revelation 20:12 about all souls being made conscious again.

Since the souls under the altar were ignored, let's look at this:


Luke 16:22-23
King James Version

22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;

23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.


Obviously not after the Great White Throne because no one, and I mean no one can speculate that evangelism will be necessary after the Great White Throne:


Luke 16:27-31
King James Version

27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:

28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.

29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.

30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.

31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.


In His teaching the Lord identifies this event as within the Age of Law and before the Resurrection of Christ.

Certainly conscious, and certainly before the Great White Throne.

There is no knowledge of any time passing between death and Judgement,

Tell that to the rich man. Tell it to those who cry out for vengeance during the Tribulation:


Revelation 6:9-11
King James Version

9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:

10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?

11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.


We see that even in Heaven time has meaning. While time does not constrain Eternal God, it certainly matters to the dead seen here crying out for vengeance.


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just as Hebrews 9:27 says; It is the human lot to die once, then comes the Judgement.

Except for the Body of Christ that is raptured:


1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
King James Version

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.


The living saints in Christ will be raised in their glorified bodies without dying. This is the earnest desire of Paul as seen (and presented in an earlier post) in 2 Corinthians 5:1-9.

So the argument fails due to its conflict with other teachings in Scripture.

Jesus said about Lazarus: He has fallen asleep… but then He clarified that Lazarus was really dead. John 11:11-14 Paul often mentions those who sleep in death.

Because "sleep" is a euphemism for death. Most know that.

Just as we might say someone has "passed away."

We don't have the Lord saying Lazarus is sleeping because he has died, he is simply saying that Lazarus has died. He uses the euphemism to refer to physical death.

The word "blood" is used to speak of death as well.

So Lazarus’s resurrection was a preview of the saints raised with Jesus at His resurrection and those martyrs who will be raised at His Return, Revelation 20:4

Again, another resurrection beside the general resurrection of the dead at the Great White Throne:


Matthew 27:51-53
King James Version

51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;

52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,

53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.


The resurrection seen here is clearly at the time of Christ's death. We know this because v. 51-52 correlates the bodies rising with the rending of the veil of the Temple.

Because Christ is the firstfruits and the Firstborn of the dead (Acts 26:22-23; 1 Corinthians 15:20) we cannot have a glorification of saints prior to His. I do understand some people will correlate v.52 to v.53 but the opening of the graves is in connection with the earthquake. Better to view their appearance to many as simply a reference to their appearing after the Resurrection.

It is possible this is a resurrection unto glorification, but highly unlikely. That it is not the Rapture of the Church is evident in that only those who are physically dead at this are raised, just as only the believing dead are raised in the First Resurrection.

This is, in my view, a physical resurrection like that of Lazarus, and these saints will go on to die again at some point.


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just as Hebrews 9:27 says; It is the human lot to die once, then comes the Judgement.

Just as another example of proof-texting, one could say, "Look, it says a lot of people will die, not all!"

But we know what this translation's intent is, right?

They all received and will receive mortal bodies, that can be subject to death again.

Sorry, no.

First, they are dead in the sense that they do not have the Life of Christ. This is the death they were—as we were—born into.

All men will receive "spiritual bodies" suited for their eternal "reward," but not all will have life.


1 Corinthians 15:35-37
King James Version

35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?

36 Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:

37 And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain:


The context is teaching about resurrection of the dead in general terms and we have to carefully consider the context to know when it distinguishes between those who are saved and general teaching about the resurrection of the dead itself.

Here we see that this is general, and that the answer is in direct relation to the question "How are the dead raised up," not, "How are believers raised up."

The point seems relatively simple: "Does not the crops you sow arise from dead seeds you have planted?"

"And isn't it important what kind of seed is planted, for that determines the plant that comes to life from the dead seed?"


1 Corinthians 15:42-44
King James Version

42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:

43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:

44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.


In view is the general teaching of the resurrection of the dead.

The "dead" of the dead (physically dead) will be raised in spiritual bodies that will be suitable to their eternal judgment.

They will not die physically again.

As far as their condition, they were dead before they died physically and they are dead when they live again (Revelation 20:5) and are then cast into the Lake of Fire if their names are not written in the Book of Life.

Matthew 10:28 makes it clear God does not kill people in Hell, He destroys them. The destruction they undergo for eternity is no different than the destruction the Lost Sheep were in when Christ came to save that which was lost (in a state of destruction).

If one dies physically in that state of death and has not received the Life of Christ he/she will never see that life (John 3:36) but will remain lost (in a state of destruction) forever and ever.


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But as Paul tells us in 1 Corinthians 15:50-56, there will be some Christians alive at the end of the Millennium, who will never die, they will be transformed at the time of Judgement into immortality, along with all the rest whose names are written in the Book of Life.

As I have been saying, it is quite impossible for this to happen at the end of the Millennial Kingdom.

Kind of hard for the Church to be "caught up into the clouds" when you also teach that no man will go to Heaven, thus destroying your own argument.

At the Great White Throne—there are no clouds.

Nothing to be caught up to.

This creation has passed away and the Eternal State has not yet been revealed to men.

There's only the Great White Throne and the Lake of Fire.

If the new heavens and Earth (New Universe) were in existence and relevant to this resurrection it could not be said...


Revelation 20:11
King James Version

11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.


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The parable about Abraham and Lazarus, the beggar: is a scene AFTER that GWT Judgement, a homily for all to realize what our fate will be if we refuse to honor God.

So why does the rich man ask Abraham to send Lazarus to his brothers?


Luke 16:27-31
King James Version

27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:

28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.

29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.

30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.

31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.


In His teaching the Lord identifies this event as within the Age of Law and before the Resurrection of Christ.

Certainly conscious, and certainly before the Great White Throne.


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The flesh we currently inhabit will not be reconstituted, those worthy to go into Eternity with God will be spiritual beings. Matthew 22:30 In the resurrection…..they are like the angels in heaven.

The Lord's body was reconstitued:


Luke 24:36-40
King James Version

36 And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.

37 But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit.

38 And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?

39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

40 And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet.


Again, we see the dichotomy of man taught by the Lord, and He is also in the body He died in, evidenced by the wounds He received on the Cross.

We will be resurrected with the same resurrection He was, thus we see it as more than likely we will be reconstituted as He was.

Secondly, this comes into conflict with the imagery of people "sleeping in graves" in that if it is those who are in the graves that are literally sleeping—what body is sleeping?

If that is who "comes out of the graves" why would we think their bodies would be left behind?

Job 14:10-15 When a human dies, all his power vanishes, he is like a dried up river. So mortal man lies down and never to rise, until the heavens be no more!

Job 14:10-15
King James Version

10 But man dieth, and wasteth away: yea, man giveth up the ghost, and where is he?


Man dies and his body returns to dust (the elements of the earth it is made of.

Man gives up the spirit, and where is he?

Well, Job, the spirits of those who were killed in the Tribulation are seen before the altar crying out for vengeance. The spirit of the rich man is seen as in torment in Hades. The spirit of Abraham and Lazarus are seen in Hades as well, though in comfort in a conscious state.

We have the benefit, Job, of having the New Testament by which we understand we have a more complete revelation of the knowledge of death and the disposition of those who die. I have no doubt that when you died you did not stay confined with your body in the grave, but went into Hades like all men did prior to the Cross.


11 As the waters fail from the sea, and the flood decayeth and drieth up:

12 So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep.

Again, a reference to the body.


13 O that thou wouldest hide me in the grave, that thou wouldest keep me secret, until thy wrath be past, that thou wouldest appoint me a set time, and remember me!


Job would rather be dead than living in misery with his "friends."


14 If a man die, shall he live again? all the days of my appointed time will I wait, till my change come.


Job answers that question:


Job 19:25-26
King James Version

25 For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth:

26 And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God:


Job believed in the resurrection from the dead. He didn't have the revelation we have, nor was he privy to the Mystery of the Gospel, or the Mystery of the Rapture, because those truths were not revealed in Job's Age or any other one preceding this Age.


15 Thou shalt call, and I will answer thee: thou wilt have a desire to the work of thine hands.


Job knows God will raise the dead. Doesn't mean all will be raised unto life. Some will be raised unto everlasting shame and contempt.

But all will be raised and they will all be raised physically.

Daniel 12:14; John 5:28-29.


The dead are dead before they die:


Luke 11:44
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are as graves which appear not, and the men that walk over them are not aware of them.


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Lord, I ask that You hide me in the grave, conceal me until Your wrath has passed, then Lord; remember me at Your appointed time! I will wait, however long it takes for the change to come. Then, You will summon me and I will answer: I am the work of Your hands.

Job asks for physical death.

He knows he will be bodily resurrected.

The sequence is:

1/ We all die. The only exceptions will be those remaining alive at the end of the Millennium. Eccl 12:7, Isaiah 38:10-11, Acts 13:36

Ecclesiastes 12:7
King James Version

7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.


It's a basic principle: men return to dust after physical death. Here we see that the spirit returns to God, it doesn't "sleep" in the grave.

One of the things to consider concerning Sheol/Hades is that while men did not go into HEaven at that time there isn't the first thing to indicate that God never went there. Why wouldn't we think the Son visited the faithful and had a presence among the Just of the dead?



Isaiah 38:10-11
King James Version

10 I said in the cutting off of my days, I shall go to the gates of the grave: I am deprived of the residue of my years.

11 I said, I shall not see the Lord, even the Lord, in the land of the living: I shall behold man no more with the inhabitants of the world.


As in all passages that refer to men "being no more" it is a reference to the temporal. Of course they will be no more, their bodies return to dust and they no are no longer in "the land of the living" or among those who inhabit the world.

Doesn't teach Soul Sleep.


Acts 13:36
King James Version

36 For David, after he had served his own generation by the will of God, fell on sleep, and was laid unto his fathers, and saw corruption:


As in all uses of sleep when death is the context it simply means David died and his body returned to death (saw corruption).

But David did not think he was going to be "sleeping" in a grave when he died:


2 Samuel 12:21-23
King James Version

21 Then said his servants unto him, What thing is this that thou hast done? thou didst fast and weep for the child, while it was alive; but when the child was dead, thou didst rise and eat bread.

22 And he said, While the child was yet alive, I fasted and wept: for I said, Who can tell whether God will be gracious to me, that the child may live?

23 But now he is dead, wherefore should I fast? can I bring him back again? I shall go to him, but he shall not return to me.


Can David "go to the child" if he is unconscious in a grave?"

No, David understood the Old Testament teaching of Sheol and knew that he would "go to be with his fathers" and that he would go to the child.

In other words, "When I die I will see him again."


No credible proof texts for Soul Sleep or the denial that men go to be with God in Heaven in this Age. Simply an attempt to prooftext a view and a direct rejection of New Testament teachings of Christ and the Apostles that show men conscious after death and men in Heaven with God.


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2/ The Lord’s wrath will pass; all as is prophesied to happen. Revelation 15:1

So why leave out this prophecy...


Revelation 6:9-11
King James Version

9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:

10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?

11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

...?

Back up to Revelation 4:1 and we see that this takes place in Heaven.

More reference to men in Heaven:


Revelation 4
King James Version

1 After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.

4 And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold.



Revelation 5
King James Version

3 And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.

5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.


8 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.

9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;


14 And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever.

This takes place before the Seals are opened.

3/ The dead know nothing until the Appointed time for the Great White Throne Judgement, when there will be new heavens and a new earth. Revelation 21:1-4

Then how is it they cry out for vengeance?

Why are they given robes?

4/ Then, for those whose names are written in the Book of Life, the change will come; into immortality for Eternity. As described in 1 Corinthians 15:50-56.

1 Corinthians 15:50-56
King James Version

50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?

56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.


And it doesn't negate 1 Thessalonians 4:113-17, nor does it deny that all men will be raised in spiritual bodies:


1 Corinthians 15:35-37
King James Version

35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?

36 Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:

37 And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain:


We have to consider all teachings that are relevant, and when we do we see that Soul Sleep is not taught in Scripture, nor is one resurrection.

It's plain for those who do not have a personal agenda to teach a system of Theology that men go to be with the Lord in Heaven, and that it is really quite sensible for the Body of Christ to have hope in and to earnestly desire to be raptured prior to the Tribulation, That was Paul's hope in 2 Corinthians 5:1-9, so why wouldn't it also be our hope?

I now return your thread to its previous focus on the Timeline of Earth's History and will no longer interject. I too see this world as nearing 6,000 years in age, despite the popular views based on Science, and understand this view is held in contempt by many. All I can say is that, when we get to Heaven I will try my best not to say "I told you so."




God bless.

 

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Proof that you are wrong is in Revelation 11, when the 2W preach and prophesy will be the 1250 days that the ungodly peoples will control Jerusalem and will 'trample the holy City'. Revelation 13:5

And well before the Great White Throne Judgment.

I am not wrong, this is a Rapture in every aspect of the event, and it takes place before the resurrection of the Tribulation Martyrs and the general resurrection of the dead preceding the Great White Throne.

Just trying to help you correct errors concerning the elements that make up God's Timeline for mankind.

As I said, I am done with this thread, so I will not interfere with this thread again.


God bless.

 

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As I said, I am done with this thread, so I will not interfere with this thread again.

I'm so happy!
You can keep your false belief about the 'rapture to heaven' and being alive and conscious after death.
All the 'After death experiences', are inspired by Satan, he loves it when people believe anything that contradicts the Bible.

Just trying to help you correct errors concerning the elements that make up God's Timeline for mankind.

Where did you do that?
Do you refute any of the 47 Bible verses I used? Do you dispute the date when Babylon conquered Jerusalem?

The timeline as presented in #1, is correct and very soon we will experience all the end time events, as Prophesied.
Those who have the fanciful idea that they will be in heaven, will be disappointed and won't have a clue of what to do next.

 

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I'm so happy!
You can keep your false belief about the 'rapture to heaven' and being alive and conscious after death.
All the 'After death experiences', are inspired by Satan, he loves it when people believe anything that contradicts the Bible.

Where did you do that?
Do you refute any of the 47 Bible verses I used? Do you dispute the date when Babylon conquered Jerusalem?

The timeline as presented in #1, is correct and very soon we will experience all the end time events, as Prophesied.
Those who have the fanciful idea that they will be in heaven, will be disappointed and won't have a clue of what to do next.

I'll bet you are, lol.

Like I said, when I see you in Heaven I will do my best not to say "I told you so," lol.


God bless.

 

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Like I said, when I see you in Heaven I will do my best not to say "I told you so,"

Tell you what Pilgrim, you are going to have to swallow a grim-Pil as you and everyone remain on earth, for all the end times events as the Bible Prophesies.
Some won't have to worry about the Great Tribulation, those faithful people will be kept safe for that 1260 day terrible time. Revelation 12:14
But ALL must be tested and tried - 1 Peter 4:12

When we go to live in all of the holy Land, as the Prophesies say; Ezekiel 34:11-16, Isaiah 35:1-10, if God will forgive your errors, then I will too and you will be one who I will invite to sit under my vines and fig trees. Zechariah 3:10

 

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These are the End Times:
It is amazing to think that we are now, at the very edge of the end of this age. Soon we will experience the fulfilment of many prophesies. The ancient prophets spoke of how all the Lord’s people; Israelites of God, faithful Christians from every race, nation and language, will go to live in their heritage. Ezekiel 37:21 ...I will take the Israelites out of the nations where they now live. I will gather them from all around and bring them back into their own Land.

This Second Exodus began in 1948, with the return of part of the Southern Kingdom of Judah into part of the Land. Now we are seeing the world turning against the State of Israel and the emergence of an Islamic confederation, that is busily preparing for an attack to: “erase all remembrance of them”. Then the Lord will act once again in His creation, to fulfil the rest of Psalm 83, Habakkuk 3:12-14, Revelation 6:12-17 and many other Bible passages. This clearance of the “evil neighbours” as described in Jeremiah 12:14-17, will allow every faithful Christian Israelite of God, Galatians 3:26-29 to join the remnant of their brethren in all of the holy Land. Jeremiah 50:4-5


When will this happen? Just this question causes some Christians to quickly say; But of that Day and hour no man knows.” Those who seek clues from the Word are often criticized and told to focus on evangelism, and not to be concerned when the Lord will Return. This shows their lack of Bible knowledge, as the actual Return will be known to the day, when certain events take place preceding it. It is the Great Day of the Lord’s vengeance and wrath, that will take the world unawares. The doubters may mention the verses that say this event will come “as a thief” . Again, those people do not read scripture carefully, as Paul says; “But you, my friends, are not in the dark, that this Day should surprise you”.

Jesus exhorted; Revelation 3:3b If you do not wake up, I will come upon you like a thief... The Return will not be unexpected. 1 Thess 4:16

This verse and all the ones about the Lord coming; refer to the Lord’s Day of fiery wrath, are some time before the Return in glory.

Jesus rebuked: Matthew 16:3 You hypocrites, you can interpret the sky, but you cannot interpret the signs of your times.

Jesus will judge: Luke 3:16-17....He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire. His winnowing fork in His hand, to clear His threshing floor and gather the wheat, but the chaff, He will burn up.

Jesus promised: Luke 21:28 When all these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near. John 15:15-17 I no longer call you servants, now I call you My friends, I have made known all that I have learned from My Father. You did not choose Me, but I chose you, that you would bear fruit. Then the Father will give you whatever you ask in My Name. This is My command; love one another.


There are many precedents for God revealing specific times in advance.

1/ He gave Noah the exact amount of time to build and load the ark, before the Flood.

2/ He told Abraham that the Israelites would be in Egypt for 400 years.

3/ He revealed the exact day of Elijah’s rapture.

4/ Jeremiah prophesied the 70 year time for the Babylonian exile.

5/ Daniel told exactly when the Messiah would come the first time.

6/ Now, Ezekiel 4:4-6, with the multipliers as given in Leviticus 26, gives us the dates for the events of our time.

To leave us without clues now would be contrary to God’s established pattern. Obviously we are not “in the dark “, there are many signs. Let us be watchful, doing our Masters work and ready to heed His call and to receive our inheritance.

 

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Signs and events to watch for before the Day of the Lord:

Not the Return of Jesus, but the much prophesied Lord’s Day of vengeance and wrath, a terrifying judgement of fire, that He will use to punish His enemies. 2 Peter 2:7


1/ The completion of the decreed exile of the House of Israel. Ezekiel 4:4, & Leviticus 26:18


2/ The ‘fig tree budding’, [Judah the fig, Israel the vine] Within a lifetime- that is 70 - 80 years from May 1948; so before May 2028. Matthew 24:32-34, Ezekiel 12:25-28


3/ The Iranian leadership believes that they must hasten the appearance of the 12th Imam [the Mahadi] They will do this by attacking Israel.


4/ An increase of worldwide natural disasters. Signs and portents, etc.


5/ Irrational actions and panic among the leaders of the nations.


6/ A fundamentalist Islamic government in Egypt, Libya, Yemen, Syria and Saudi, etc, that form an alliance, but it may not be generally known. Turkey will support them.


7/ An incapacitating injury to Israel’s leader and an incompetent replacement. Isaiah 3:1-7


8/ A man in the spirit and power of Elijah will become known, perhaps only to the Lord’s people. Malachi 4:5


9/ A nuclear explosion in North Korea and their possession of ICBM’s.


10/ The correct knowledge of the end times will become known only to a few. Daniel 12:10


However, we are told by Isaiah 6:9-10......you will never understand.....until the land is ruined and deserted. That is; until AFTER the Lord’s fire judgement, a CME sunstrike.