God has abandoned me.

[Debp]

Yeah I'm really tired of having to make myself perfect in order for God to care about me

You don't need to be perfect in order for God to care about you. Maybe this is why you are struggling to believe? You are weary. You are trying to make yourself good enough for God....only Jesus does that for us.

Jesus bore our sins and gives us His righteousness. He also promises us rest...please read Matthew 11:28-30. Jesus is our Good Shepherd....cast all your care upon Him.

Sometimes we do go through suffering and trials, but we keep believing the Lord is with us and He will get us through these things. Life is not always easy but we still should know God is still there and He loves us. Learn to rest in Him no matter what.

 

[Neostarwcc]

I don't have any faith anymore. Call me what you like, but I have given up. I hear stories of God speaking to people, taking their pain away. Yet I have spent so many nights sobbing alone in my bed, begging for help, pleading for God to take away the pain or at least let me know that he's there. I've spent so many nights reaching up, desperate for him. But I'm just talking to my ceiling. I don't have it in me to try anymore. He has abandoned me or he never loved me in the first place. I'm not sure what to do. I believe he exists still but I don't believe he cares. He wasn't there when I needed him most and I don't know if he ever was.

Not sure what else to say. I just don't think there's a point in calling myself a Christian anymore. I don't know what I believe.

Deuteronomy 31:6-8, 1 Kings 8:57, Psalms 37:28, Psalms 94:14, Isaiah 42:16, John 6:37 ..etc. Scripture is very clear and plain. God will never leave nor forsake us. So, maybe those pieces of scripture will give you comfort, I hope so. They give me comfort whenever I start to doubt that God is really there. Just because you are full of pain now doesn't necessarily mean that God isn't helping you with your problems. He understands EVERYTHING you are going through and whatever you ask God the Father in Jesus's name that's within God's will Jesus will give to you (John 14:13). That's a truth of scripture it might not be instantaneous but it'll happen. Please don't lose heart and give up. That is not God's will for you. Just because your life is hard now it doesn't automatically mean it'll ALWAYS be hard. You will be in my prayers.

 

[Chinchilla]

I'm aware of that verse, but I've followed God my entire life up until now. it's not for a lack of faith that he didn't answer me because I did truly believe that he would show up when I needed him.

Today I was walking from job interview and was thinking that i will probably never get that job so i was thinking of my life and I was about to cross bibycle path . I usually look before i cross because it's straight downhill and bicycles are really fast here . I did not look for any bicycle passing by because i was thinking too much . Somehow my right foot was unable to make next step and hit ground . I even was trying to drag it a little bit so my foot made that strach noise but still did not move . Next second i had bicycle moving really fast in front of my face that I could feel that person's jacket hitting my face .
I believe God helped me there .

But back to the topic

Faith is based on evidence . Blind faith is not based on evidence .
We have faith in Christ not blind faith .
You are promised suffering on earth as Child of God - John 15:20
You are promised that God will never leave you , he will let you walk through it - John 6:36-39

Faith comes by hearing Word of God . Jesus was not some random religious guy like Buddah or Confucius that was "good" person helping people .
Jesus was promised Son of God who would fullfill Scriptures to prove who he is and to pay for us price on cross for our sins with his blood.
He fullfilled about 350 prophecy to the date , some are so precise like Jesus riding on two donkeys and being proclaimed Messiah that they are actually in exactly that day which they were prophesied , 4 days before passover .

Type in google "Jesus fullfill 350 prophecy according to scriptures " enter the website and read for yourself .

Last words , John the Baptist lost his faith too at one point when he was in prison , Jesus told him that everything is according to plan and to endure so should you

 

[2Timothy2:15]

I don't have any faith anymore. Call me what you like, but I have given up. I hear stories of God speaking to people, taking their pain away. Yet I have spent so many nights sobbing alone in my bed, begging for help, pleading for God to take away the pain or at least let me know that he's there. I've spent so many nights reaching up, desperate for him. But I'm just talking to my ceiling. I don't have it in me to try anymore. He has abandoned me or he never loved me in the first place. I'm not sure what to do. I believe he exists still but I don't believe he cares. He wasn't there when I needed him most and I don't know if he ever was.

Not sure what else to say. I just don't think there's a point in calling myself a Christian anymore. I don't know what I believe.

You may be in a season of testing of your heart. God does this. There has been extended periods of time when I did not feel close or feel I was hearing from the Lord as I had in the past. This is the Lord maturing our faith. You have been praying, that is good. But have you spent time in the word equally? I find that reading of the word helps strengthen me in these times. Faith comes by hearing of the word. In times of desperation I read the word out loud. Start with Psalm 91, read it out loud in your home until you feel some peace.

 

[ShirleyMontreal]

Life is filled with troubles, and often times we have no control over them, but remember this, and this is the most important thing.. Your reward will be in heaven. That's the whole point of Faith, that even when things seem to make no sense to why as they happen that way, and it seems God is silent you still never give up. In the end, it only solidifies your foundation.

Also, don't forget that the first will be last and the last will be first... In heaven God will wipe away all tears. Everything that happens will one day seem like something far away, nothing but a memory. And don't forget, earth isn't where life is made easy for Christians. Christ himself, had to go throught a painful death on earth, and yet He is the King. Think about all the persecutions.. God doesn't want you to suffer, He created you and He Loves you. And because you keep Faith regardless of the suffering, God will reward you.

 

[Kenny'sID]

Megan, this is one reason people have no business saying God spoke to them unless they heard his audible voice, or are absolutely certain in some way, but even then, one might wonder if they really did, or how stable are these people? I'd dare say a lot who make such claims, only "want" God to speak to them so they convince themselves he did. Why? Maybe one reason is because of just the situation you are in, but they are willing to create delusions to help their situation, whereas, you are not.

Then there are the preachers, the ones that claim God told them this or that that, and are oft times not sincere, they're only trying to appear to be in such Good Graces with God, he speaks with them regularly/directly.

Like so many other personal experiences people claim to have had with God, others are listening to the claims, people like yourself that are more down to earth, and don't pretend God has spoken to you directly, and trusting as they are, they believe others have, even that it's happening all around them but not to them. Then, in turn, they feel there must be something wrong with themselves because God has not spoken directly to them as he has others that make the claim.

Some Christians are reckless and/or simply can't see the effect they cause, when they essentially lie, whether it be out of ignorance, instability, or selfishness.

As far as God caring for you, of course he does. Though it may seem strange to us, just being there, and communicating on whatever level he chooses, along with his word, the bible, is the way he does things. And I think most of us have experienced something like you are going through now, but that's where that "faith" comes in.

John 20:29
Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

See, Jesus/God gets how you feel/addresses it right there, and though I personally will moan and groan about God not revealing himself, once I stop and think about it, I often see he has, but in his own way. One way is when he answers prayer, or gives help when needed, and when we look at the surrounding circumstances, it seems like and awful lot more than mere coincidence.

So, two major points, don't put too much into what man tells you, they not only often fall short out of ignorance, but they can be selfish, and sometimes tell us what they want us to hear, even if it's not entirely true.

As I mentioned, God, for whatever reason, has seen fit to act as he does, and I have no doubt he has his reasons for what appears to be absence.

Hope you can pull out of this soon, yours is a very uncomfortable (to put it mildly) place to be.

Psalm 46:10

“Be still, and know that I am God"

 

[salt-n-light]

All I ask of him is to show me that he's there and listening but he never does!! I was in a really, really, really dark place in my life and I needed strength and comfort, or at least one of those. I needed to know that I wasn't alone and he stayed silent. He didn't provide peace or comfort or even a sign that he was there. And that doesn't feel like love to me. What kind of person claims to love someone but stays silent when they're suffering?

But He already said in His Word that He will never leave you nor forsake you (Hebrews 13:5) and that He listens to the cries of His children (Psalms 34:15). If he takes care of the birds and plants, how much more would He take of us, His own? (Matthew 6:25-34).

Look at Job, look at Moses, at Noah, at David, despite how their situations looked, where their faith took them. How many time Hannah cried of her situation before she finally trust God and God had remembered her? When Israel was in bondage, did He not hear them? Did He not redeeemed them?

Trust God.

 

[dqhall]

I don't have any faith anymore. Call me what you like, but I have given up. I hear stories of God speaking to people, taking their pain away. Yet I have spent so many nights sobbing alone in my bed, begging for help, pleading for God to take away the pain or at least let me know that he's there. I've spent so many nights reaching up, desperate for him. But I'm just talking to my ceiling. I don't have it in me to try anymore. He has abandoned me or he never loved me in the first place. I'm not sure what to do. I believe he exists still but I don't believe he cares. He wasn't there when I needed him most and I don't know if he ever was.

Not sure what else to say. I just don't think there's a point in calling myself a Christian anymore. I don't know what I believe.

When I was 21, I was in a world of trouble and confusion. I thought, "My only hope is if there is a God."

I started to read the Bible over and over again. I grew to like the New Testament more. I was able to meet other people who were seeking God and listen to them. Today I have more joy and peace. Sometimes when I can not sleep, instead of stare into darkness, I turn on a light and read until I am tired enough to go to sleep. God can fill a person's schedule.

 

[Kenny'sID]

Yet I have spent so many nights sobbing alone in my bed, begging for help, pleading for God to take away the pain or at least let me know that he's there.

Megan, this may have been asked already, but what kind of pain are we talking here?

 

[Sam91]

I read only the first page and about two thirds of that.

Have you tried thanking the Lord that He is always with you? It is better than asking. I have found that it is when I step out in faith it becomes real. God is with you. He has probablybeen giving you comfort through the sobbing but you haven't stopped to notice it.

I like Psalm 91 for a reason. When having a tough day I would look forward to just sitting on my sofa with a Bible under His shelter, Him being my refuge, My God in whom I trust. He said to Elijah that He was in the still small voice. 1 Kings 19:11-12

Next time you are distraught, go rest in Him. Thank Him for His love and presence. Be still and know that Hd is God and you will probably feel Him. Especially if reading the word. Hope this helps.

 

[JesusIsMySavior101]

Maybe He is using this situation to grow your faith / testing it to see if you really believe or not. Or He might be using it to draw you closer to Him. That’s kinda how it works I think. Maybe this is the tip of the barrel that will finally get you in a situation where you rely on His strength and not your own. A situation where you need Him. The fact that you believe is proof in a way because a lot of people don’t even have that. It shows that He is drawing you closer. You might want to try and cast out any demons you can I know that sounds crazy but the crying thing and all that isn’t what Gods all about. You need to pray that the Holy Spirit dwell in you. He fills you with peace and you just know it’s from Him. It’s a other worldly feeling. And it’s not from yourself/ power. You have no control over it. Don’t give up!! Keep praying and living as sin free as you possibly can will help. It shows faith. Think about the unrepentant rich person. Poorer people kind of have it lucky because you are looking forward to the hereafter instead of the here right now. What if this is the key to your salvation, the thing that makes you His and you can trust it might all just be part of His plan to have happen and He will rescue you right when you need it like when Paul was sinking on the water. Jesus rescued him. He won’t always give us what we want, but He will give us what we need. I’m sure you know what I mean. Have faith!!

 

[JesusIsMySavior101]

And I was saying earlier the fact that you believe is proof in a way because only God can do that. So don’t be so hard on yourself you are right where you should be at this particular time.

Because of John 6:44
No one can come to Me, unless the Father who sent Me draw him: and I will raise him up on the last day.''

 

[Morghaine]

You are in my prayers. I don't know that I can add anything that hasn't been said, but please do keep praying and thanking/praising God....He is there!

 

[MyGivenNameIsKeith]

I don't have any faith anymore. Call me what you like, but I have given up. I hear stories of God speaking to people, taking their pain away. Yet I have spent so many nights sobbing alone in my bed, begging for help, pleading for God to take away the pain or at least let me know that he's there. I've spent so many nights reaching up, desperate for him. But I'm just talking to my ceiling. I don't have it in me to try anymore. He has abandoned me or he never loved me in the first place. I'm not sure what to do. I believe he exists still but I don't believe he cares. He wasn't there when I needed him most and I don't know if he ever was.

Not sure what else to say. I just don't think there's a point in calling myself a Christian anymore. I don't know what I believe.

God is always with you. Even when you are at your lowest, he is right beside you. The things that he does are for our good, whether we perceive them to be or not. Discipline isn't the best feeling from the perspective of one being disciplined. It hurts. Ultimately it is good though.
There was a number of years I felt quite like you. I had trouble seeing him. I struggled with everything in life. You name it, all was pretty much a disaster. See, what I had been doing was never surrendering to him, coping on my own, lifting myself up, making my own way, and then pretend like God was some drive thru bank I could use when I needed help. It was all about me, me, me. I was selfish and it was destroying my life.
So God in his infinite wisdom and love, allowed it to run its course, knock me on my back so that the only way I could look was up. Then I saw that he had been there the whole time.
But for a reality check.....
God always answers your prayers. Yes, No, or not right now.
Pain or discomfort may be there all your mortal life. This is earth here and now. See what Paul says about his thorn in his side.
2 Corinthians 12:7-10
7or with these surpassingly great revelations.

So to keep me from becoming conceited, I was given a thorn in my flesh, a messenger of Satan, to torment me. 8Three times I pleaded with the Lord to take it away from me. 9But He said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for My power is perfected in weakness.” Therefore I will boast all the more gladly in my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ may rest on me. 10That is why, for the sake of Christ, I delight in weaknesses, in insults, in hardships, in persecutions, in difficulties. For when I am weak, then I am strong.

A friend told me one time that God was a master sculptor making a masterpiece. He is sculpting rock. Be patient through the process even though it hurts.

I expanded on this with the potter and clay analogy from scriptures and then some....
When we are more receptive to God's corrections and guidance we are like soft clay, easily shaped, and wet with the water. When we are not receptive however, we are like a more dry clay...hard, full of cracks, hard to shape, and lacking moisture.
Drink in the word. Trust in Him.
If you want progress and a real answer.....
Stop praying for the healing and what you think you want and pray instead for God to heal your heart because it starts there. Praying for understanding is given in the verse...the fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge and to depart from evil is understanding.
Sometimes it helps to stop talking to the ceiling, get down on your knees beside your bed, humble yourself and look down.
Take a deep breath, relax, and be still and you'll see (and hear) that God has been listening, been speaking, and been right beside you all this time.
After all if God weren't, the Spirit of God wouldn't have moved all these people to pray for you and reach out to you.

 

[Lucian Hodoboc]

And without faith it is impossible to please him, for whoever would draw near to God must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who seek him. ~Hebrews 11:6

Considering that faith is not volitional, that requirement is an impossible demand. You can't force yourself to believe something no matter how much you try. You can force yourself to act in a certain way (you can force yourself to pray, you can force yourself to go to church, you can force yourself to act against your fears and do skydiving), but you can't force yourself to believe in something without any doubts.

 

[Kevin Snow]

Considering that faith is not volitional, that requirement is an impossible demand. You can't force yourself to believe something no matter how much you try. You can force yourself to act in a certain way (you can force yourself to pray, you can force yourself to go to church, you can force yourself to act against your fears and do skydiving), but you can't force yourself to believe in something without any doubts.

Then what is this?

And Jesus said to him, “‘If you can’! All things are possible for one who believes.” Immediately the father of the child cried out and said, “I believe; help my unbelief!” ~Mark 9:23-24

But Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”
~Matthew 19:26

Jesus immediately reached out his hand and took hold of him, saying to him, “O you of little faith, why did you doubt?” ~Matthew 14:31

When we are looking to God there is no reason to doubt. The reason you doubt is that you are not relying on God but yourself.

 

[Lucian Hodoboc]

Then what is this?

And Jesus said to him, “‘If you can’! All things are possible for one who believes.” Immediately the father of the child cried out and said, “I believe; help my unbelief!” ~Mark 9:23-24

But Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”
~Matthew 19:26

Jesus immediately reached out his hand and took hold of him, saying to him, “O you of little faith, why did you doubt?” ~Matthew 14:31

When we are looking to God there is no reason to doubt. The reason you doubt is that you are not relying on God but yourself.

I'm confused about what you're trying to say by quoting those verses. I never claimed that it's impossible to have faith. There are plenty of people who have faith. I said that it's impossible to force oneself to have faith. Faith is not coordinated by volition. Actions are coordinated by volition, but not the things that you believe.

There is no reason to doubt, you say? How about Mark 16:17-18? How about the various contradictions from The Bible?

 

[Kevin Snow]

I'm confused about what you're trying to say by quoting those verses. I never claimed that it's impossible to have faith. There are plenty of people who have faith. I said that it's impossible to force oneself to have faith. Faith is not coordinated by volition. Actions are coordinated by volition, but not the things that you believe.

There is no reason to doubt, you say? How about Mark 16:17-18? How about the various contradictions from The Bible?

Read the passage with the man who cries to Jesus to help him believe. This is an example of someone who is crying to God to help him with his unbelief. With man this is impossible but with God all things are possible. So yes, if you look to God then you can remove doubts from yourself because you relied on God to do it. In this way I am agreeing with you that with man it is impossible but in this way I am disagreeing with you that God is able to help you with your doubts.

Remember Thomas how he would not believe anyone's testimony about Jesus having been resurrected and that he would not believe unless he put his hand in his side from having been speared. This Jesus allowed him to do that very thing so that he would believe. So you're view that it is impossible to have faith when you doubt is wrong. God is able to clear your doubts.

Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord,
whose trust is the Lord.
~Jeremiah 17:7

 

[Grip Docility]

I don't have any faith anymore. Call me what you like, but I have given up. I hear stories of God speaking to people, taking their pain away. Yet I have spent so many nights sobbing alone in my bed, begging for help, pleading for God to take away the pain or at least let me know that he's there. I've spent so many nights reaching up, desperate for him. But I'm just talking to my ceiling. I don't have it in me to try anymore. He has abandoned me or he never loved me in the first place. I'm not sure what to do. I believe he exists still but I don't believe he cares. He wasn't there when I needed him most and I don't know if he ever was.

Not sure what else to say. I just don't think there's a point in calling myself a Christian anymore. I don't know what I believe.

Don’t let go. But if you do, He’ll be there. This world sucks! The pain sucks!

Ephesians 2:8-9 and 2 Timothy 2:13 are yours to claim.

Drop the burden at the Cross and set the Lion free.

Kick religion to the Curb.

The Lion has you in His mouth, (Jesus) and He won’t let go.

Even if you lose your grip, He’s got you.

All Love to you! I’m so sorry for your pain!

 

[Drought of the Heart]

You don't need to be perfect in order for God to care about you. Maybe this is why you are struggling to believe? You are weary. You are trying to make yourself good enough for God....only Jesus does that for us.

Jesus bore our sins and gives us His righteousness. He also promises us rest...please read Matthew 11:28-30. Jesus is our Good Shepherd....cast all your care upon Him.

Sometimes we do go through suffering and trials, but we keep believing the Lord is with us and He will get us through these things. Life is not always easy but we still should know God is still there and He loves us. Learn to rest in Him no matter what.

Sorry for what you are going through and satan gets very happy when we go into the pit with him.

Dear Heavenly Father , we lift up De and ask for revelation , for the enemy to lose his power this very day and the Light of Jesus fill his soul in Jesus name amen


No man has seen God and we would die in human form , ask for a cool breeze or a shooting star something you know He created and is of Him. I only have to look at a cloud , a rain drop or a baby to know He is there. Read Job 32-39