Glenn Beck

[MrJim]

I so agree, I truly believe this all stems from coveting & jealousy
of the rich.
People dislike that others have wealth and want to penalize them
for it (and want what they have for themselves).

God is the one who gives wealth, I think entitlement attitudes are
killing this country

So if God gives wealth then if someone is rich it's from God and if one is poor maybe they deserve it? I mean, just sayin' [since Glenn says that alot], is wealth the sign of God's blessing? I don't think that's what you are saying...and if it is, then is the opposite true? Is poverty a sign of God's punishment?

 

[Secundulus]

So if God gives wealth then if someone is rich it's from God and if one is poor maybe they deserve it? I mean, just sayin' [since Glenn says that alot], is wealth the sign of God's blessing? I don't think that's what you are saying...and if it is, then is the opposite true? Is poverty a sign of God's punishment?

I think you have just given a very succinct summary of America's prosperity Gospel. Unfortunaltely, these ideas are not contained in Jesus' Salvation Gospel.

Where does that leave Joel Osteen and many others?

 

[JustAsIam77]

I think you have just given a very succinct summary of America's prosperity Gospel. Unfortunaltely, these ideas are not contained in Jesus' Salvation Gospel.

Where does that leave Joel Osteen and many others?

Secundulus, you have posted your face. If this becomes a trend , I'll be compelled to post mine. Horror of horrors.

Hint, think Earnest Hemingway before he died.

 

[Secundulus]

Secundulus, you have posted your face. If this becomes a trend , I'll be compelled to post mine. Horror of horrors.

LOL, If we both do that we may kill the forum.

Hint, think Earnest Hemingway before he died.

I was told last night at Church that I was looking like a hobo.

 

[JustAsIam77]

LOL, If we both do that we may kill the forum.


I was told last night at Church that I was looking like a hobo.

You're a fine looking young man. Not quite young enough to be one of my kids but close.

 

[Nadiine]

So if God gives wealth then if someone is rich it's from God and if one is poor maybe they deserve it? I mean, just sayin' [since Glenn says that alot], is wealth the sign of God's blessing? I don't think that's what you are saying...and if it is, then is the opposite true? Is poverty a sign of God's punishment?

Actually you're showing OUR warped/corrupted view of money,
not so much God's perspective of it.

Wealth is actually a curse to many people - it's easier for a camel to pass
thru the eye of a needle than to make it into heaven.
When I read about wealth in the bible, it has more pitfalls, negatives and harm attached to it than most anything.

It's US who finds it so alluring and positive. And then at judgment
time, the rich get to answer to God for what they spent it all on.
To whom much is given, much is required; that includes finances
they wasted on self.

So actually I find that this is more of our own warped sense of having lots
of money as being "blessing", not necessarily God's. Does God bless
everyone equally?

Do you think God WANTS everyone to be rich? If He did, He certainly
didn't set alot of people up in life to be able to attain it.
Are people in Darfur all capable of getting rich? How about N. Koreans?

& if everyone can get rich of their own power when it's NOT God's will for them, how much harm is coming to them when God knows they can't handle money and it will be their spiritual demise? God is helpless and powerless to keep them from attaining riches that will ruin them?

People pray for wealth and never get it, why not if it's God's will
that they get rich?

James 4:2-4 (New King James Version)

2 You lust and do not have. You murder and covet and cannot obtain. You fight and war. Yet you do not have because you do not ask.
3 You ask and do not receive, because you ask amiss, that you may spend it on your pleasures.


Who gave Job double what he had after he lost everything thru his trial?
Who gave King Solomon & Abraham all they had?
1 Kings 3 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Kings%203:10-15;&version=50;
13 And I have also given you what you have not asked: both riches and honor, so that there shall not be anyone like you among the kings all your days.

Deuteronomy 8:16-19 (New King James Version)

16 who fed you in the wilderness with manna, which your fathers did not know, that He might humble you and that He might test you, to do you good in the end—
17 then you say in your heart, ‘My power and the might of my hand have gained me this wealth.’
18 “And you shall remember the LORD your God, for it is He who gives you power to get wealth, that He may establish His covenant which He swore to your fathers, as it is this day.
19 Then it shall be, if you by any means forget the LORD your God, and follow other gods, and serve them and worship them, I testify against you this day that you shall surely perish.

They weren't to take credit for attaining their own wealth,
all credit & glory was to to be given to God for Giving them
any wealth.
Otherwise, all glory goes to self not God.

 

[Nadiine]

I think you have just given a very succinct summary of America's prosperity Gospel. Unfortunaltely, these ideas are not contained in Jesus' Salvation Gospel.

Where does that leave Joel Osteen and many others?

I think you know me better than to think I promote a prosperity
gospel Sec.

What I said is biblical =)

 

[WalksWithChrist]

The question I have for everyone here if we don't tax the richer people who do we tax? What's the solution when our nation is so in debt?

I heard a report on NPR yesterday about tax loopholes. In essence, if we were to take the time to close some very gaping tax loopholes a lot of businesses would be paying enough to help us out quite a bit.

The figure was this: If the loopholes were closed, individuals (all of us!) could pay 12% less in taxes.

 

[kitkat27]

I watch it sometimes. Am I the only one who wants to pinch his cheeks? lol

 

[Statuesque I]

Who watches the Glenn Beck show? He brings up some stuff that even Hannity or Rush doesn't cover. Some of it is actually frightening. I suggest people watch it, or TiVo it if you're at work.

I've only caught his television show a handful of times but I used to listen to his radio program daily - He's usually a year or so ahead of everyone else with the frightening details, haha.
Also, as far as being a conservative Christian, I tend to agree with him far more often than not - he seems to have a good grasp on things.

 

[Statuesque I]

I watch it sometimes. Am I the only one who wants to pinch his cheeks? lol

Yes, I would probably say it's safe to say so, hehe.
Pinch away.

 

[Nadiine]

I've been watching him alot more lately, I watched his show when he
covered the Tea Party at the Alamo in Texas.
I like him more now than I did - but he's still mellow dramatic...
I don't know why I'm not into that?:o

But the more I hear about the Fair Tax, the more I think that's
the way to go.
They say that 50% of the population pays NO taxes at all -
that means the other 50% are stuck bearing the entire load
and I think that's crap.

 

[Nadiine]

I've only caught his television show a handful of times but I used to listen to his radio program daily - He's usually a year or so ahead of everyone else with the frightening details, haha.
Also, as far as being a conservative Christian, I tend to agree with him far more often than not - he seems to have a good grasp on things.

He's a conservative Mormon - -

 

[willowtrees]

I watch Beck sometimes, he is pretty good. He can be over the top in how he acts but that must be the type of personality he has I assume.

I did not watch this live but found it online, it was about a week? ago. A man passed out on his set........watch how fast they help him afterwards.

YouTube - Beck Studio Guest Passes Out On Air - NOT Scripted!

 

[Nadiine]

I watch Beck sometimes, he is pretty good. He can be over the top in how he acts but that must be the type of personality he has I assume.

I did not watch this live but found it online, it was about a week? ago. A man passed out on his set........watch how fast they help him afterwards.

YouTube - Beck Studio Guest Passes Out On Air - NOT Scripted!

he was interviewed on OReilly 2 nites ago and he said that
the people around him thought it was a stunt he put on,
becuz he does gimmicks & stuff on his show.
So they didn't know if it was real or a gag.

It wasn't that people didn't care or anything

 

[willowtrees]

he was interviewed on OReilly 2 nites ago and he said that
the people around him thought it was a stunt he put on,
becuz he does gimmicks & stuff on his show.
So they didn't know if it was real or a gag.

It wasn't that people didn't care or anything

Thanks for the info, that would make more sense with their reaction time.

 

[Nadiine]

Thanks for the info, that would make more sense with their reaction time.

ya, you know what's wierd?

I didn't see the footage of him fainting, but I did hear them both
talking about why people didn't rush to help....

you saw the video but didn't see the reason why they didn't
help. lol

=)~

 

[Rhamiel]

I watch Beck sometimes, he is pretty good. He can be over the top in how he acts but that must be the type of personality he has I assume.

I did not watch this live but found it online, it was about a week? ago. A man passed out on his set........watch how fast they help him afterwards.

YouTube - Beck Studio Guest Passes Out On Air - NOT Scripted!

lol, it is funny, i like when the guy says "i'm passing out" and glen goes "you wanna sit down" "i'm passing out"
i think it is real, Glen Beck can be silly, but that would just be childish to pull a stunt like that

 

[Dracil]

Edit: Nm

 

[Izdaari Eristikon]

in what ways is Obama worse than Clinton?

Clinton was actually a liberal (modern liberal that is, nothing like a classical liberal), not a left radical passing as a liberal. Some of us claimed otherwise, but now that we've seen the real thing, the difference is obvious.

Clinton cared about good policy, cared that his stuff actually worked. Sure, it was liberal policy, but still he managed to keep the economy growing and the budget balanced (with a little help from Dick Morris and Newt Gingrich -- that is, he needed some sound political advice from a Republican that he would listen to, and he needed a well-led Republican Congress to force him to some compromises).