getting up and screaming in church

[Desperaux]

So, which scriptures are you basing (all of this) on?

Many passages.

 

[revrobor]

Many passages.

You need to be honest with those who inquire and tell them that your opinions are based on how some interpret some Scripture. There is really no verses that say God's people are going to be chastised or judged. We will have our works "evaluated" (the word "judge" is used in some translations) in order to determine the degree of our rewards in Eternity. But we have nothing to fear at the Lord's "judgment". I have heard this false teaching for decades and it's very popular in the Chick tracts but is nothing more than an attempt to scare Believers straight and rules out God's forgiveness (because we have to "pay" for our sins) and grace.

 

[rob64]

You need to be honest with those who inquire and tell them that your opinions are based on how some interpret some Scripture. There is really no verses that say God's people are going to be chastised or judged. We will have our works "evaluated" (the word "judge" is used in some translations) in order to determine the degree of our rewards in Eternity. But we have nothing to fear at the Lord's "judgment". I have heard this false teaching for decades and it's very popular in the Chick tracts but is nothing more than an attempt to scare Believers straight and rules out God's forgiveness (because we have to "pay" for our sins) and grace.

Sir, i couldn't have put it any better. BRAVO.
Some people give into these false "traditions", and refuse the truth.

TRADITION along with FEAR is what kept Israel from "going over their mountain", as well as "possessing the land".
God WANTED to bless Israel with the promise, but they prolonged it, and remained in the desert just "wandering" around aimlessly.- Much like some people today...

 

[Desperaux]

You need to be honest with those who inquire and tell them that your opinions are based on how some interpret some Scripture. There is really no verses that say God's people are going to be chastised or judged. We will have our works "evaluated" (the word "judge" is used in some translations) in order to determine the degree of our rewards in Eternity. But we have nothing to fear at the Lord's "judgment". I have heard this false teaching for decades and it's very popular in the Chick tracts but is nothing more than an attempt to scare Believers straight and rules out God's forgiveness (because we have to "pay" for our sins) and grace.

No fear of hell, you mean. There is no payment for sins, apart from what Jesus has done. But the rewards received are not the same as everyone's! Some will receive more and others less, and some, as the scripture tells us, will barely escape as though from a fire! That is not a warm, fuzzy, experience by a long shot.

People need to sober up and realize that God calls us to OBEY. The Bema Seat is not going to be pretty either, but passing through it, we receive the Kingdom! Hallelujah to that!

 

[Desperaux]

Sir, i couldn't have put it any better. BRAVO.
Some people give into these false "traditions", and refuse the truth.

TRADITION along with FEAR is what kept Israel from "going over their mountain", as well as "possessing the land".
God WANTED to bless Israel with the promise, but they prolonged it, and remained in the desert just "wandering" around aimlessly.- Much like some people today...

Hebrews 10:31
It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

 

[revrobor]

Hebrews 10:31
It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

If you read the verses before that you will see that it is talking about those who have heard the truth and choose to continue to live in sin. It is not talking about those who choose to repent and follow God.

 

[rob64]

After you read this, please re-read Hebrews, as this will set some people free from bondage;

Hebrews; written to christian Jews, who wanted grace, but yet wanted to continue in the ritualistic sacrifices (as if Jesus' sacrifice wasn't good enough) The author spent alot of time just "authenticating" Jesus as the final sacrifice. No longer do we have to "continue" to offer a sacrifice. it's a one time thing. Jesus was the final sacrifice. But, for those who insisted that his sacrifice meant nothing, and that they had to continue to offer them...this book was written.

People who insist that the law is still in effect need to study this book...

 

[VCViking]

In the past I have been to a few churches where, for no particular reason, someone from the congregation will get up, scream, and then run in the isles between the seats. This can happen at any point during the service and, to say the least, can be quite disruptive (and it's weird).

When I ask about this behavior the answer is always something like " well, when the Holy Spirit gets a hold of someone, they just do that". With this reasoning, they allow the behavior in the church.

I can't find anything in the bible that mentions this behavior and/or states that this behavior is acceptable during a service. Because this behavior is disruptive (not to mention weird) and does not work to edify others, I see it as something that should not be allowed.

What is your opinion?

It's unbiblical and you are correct, it should not be allowed. That is not what the Holy Spirit does, that's what a different type of spirit does.

 

[Desperaux]

You need to be honest with those who inquire and tell them that your opinions are based on how some interpret some Scripture. There is really no verses that say God's people are going to be chastised or judged. We will have our works "evaluated" (the word "judge" is used in some translations) in order to determine the degree of our rewards in Eternity. But we have nothing to fear at the Lord's "judgment". I have heard this false teaching for decades and it's very popular in the Chick tracts but is nothing more than an attempt to scare Believers straight and rules out God's forgiveness (because we have to "pay" for our sins) and grace.

It's not scary unless a believer is carnal, and not following jesus, being a hearer and no doer...unless he has become lackadaisical and lukewarm. THEN he has something to fear. Jesus says He will spew such types out of His mouth.

We don't pay for grace, but we do have to be careful how we live our lives for Christ.

 

[Desperaux]

If you read the verses before that you will see that it is talking about those who have heard the truth and choose to continue to live in sin. It is not talking about those who choose to repent and follow God.

And your point is? Many Christians' lives are no different than those who walk in sin.

Those who follow closely after their Saviour and Lord have nothing to worry about.