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ANNUAL GUN VIOLENCE IMPACTING PEOPLE OF ALL AGES IN THE U.S.
None of which provides a shred of support for the absurd claim I responded to.

When people are up in arms because people are asking for a possible limit to the number of 30 round magazines. Like, who are you expecting to attack you?
What rock have you been living under? Of all the clueless things I've ever heard someone say, this in the top 1%.
 
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Guns, guns, guns.

Second Amendment!

Second Amendment!

Second Amendment!

I realize you being a Brit and all, you have a hard time understanding how important the Second Amendment is to most Americans. Our fore Fathers put it there so we will never have to go through what we did under the likes of your King George III ever again.

Awful....

No...... it's called freedom!

Molon Labe!
 
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Not trying to be dis-respectful, but this is not living how the real world works!


Would you agree that everything you posted here, outside of quoting Scripture directly, is nothing more than your fallible opinion, and is subject to error?

Molon Labe!
 
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What was the historical reason for Jesus saying that? At that time in history Jews were highly civilized compared to the Gentile world. Jews as a rule did not go around slapping Jews in the face..

What was the key to understanding why Jesus gave that command?

The Jews were UNDER ROMAN OCCUPATION. At times, brutal Roman occupation.

The Romans were a brutal culture. If a Roman soldier did not like the way a Jew was looking at him? Or, simply did not something about a Jew? He could slap him down.

Now, the Jews viewed the Romans as "goyim" and unclean. A religious Jew could get proud and defiant when slapped down and resist the Roman in a way that could bring on worse bodily harm.

When Jesus said to offer the other cheek? He was teaching them how to minimize further bodily harm - how to survive the brutal occupation they were under.

Proud Jews could easily end up with a sword thrust through if they became arrogant in the face of a Roman soldier's arrogance. Jesus was telling them to turn the other cheek to keep their bodily harm minimal.

After all...

Israel was under Roman occupation because the Jews under the Pharisees had become apostate, and God was using Rome to discipline the Jews. Many Jews felt oppressed.

Its also why Jesus told the Jews to go the extra mile. For a Roman could grab some Jews standing around and demand them to pick up some supplies and take them to a given location. Just look how the Roman soldiers commanded a bystander (Simon of Cyrene) to carry Jesus' Cross for him..(Matthew 27:32 Luke 23:26).

The Romans treated those people they occupied with unblinking arrogance when they wanted something done. Turn the other cheek was wisdom on how to survive while under occupation by a brutal nation.
 
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nowehre in the Bible is sef dense forbidden per se. Jesus sometimes advised his disciples to buy swords, other times He told them to put them away. depending on the situation.
 
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When people are up in arms because people are asking for a possible limit to the number of 30 round magazines. Like, who are you expecting to attack you? People just like to feel like tuff guys like "nobody can mess with me man, I got guns"
It saves lives when applicable. They do not want that many rounds for duck hunting.

Guess what small businesses were spared damage during the recent race riots?
The Second Amendment is helping defend small businesses in the Minneapolis riots

Black business owners and people were protecting themselves..
Black Civilians Arm Themselves To Protest Racial Violence and Protect Black-Owned Businesses
 
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if God wants us to defend our loved ones or those who are helpless, am sure He ok with us defending ourselves when the situation truly requires it. we are to love our neighbours AS we love ourselves. not to love our neighbours and not love ourselves. treat everyone with the same comapssion you give yourself. God has no favourites neither should we.
 
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I'm definitely pro 2nd amendment, the issue with taking guns away or increasing the number of gun free zones is that anyone who would be prepared to commit gun violence doesn't care whether they do it in a gun free zone, or if they legally obtained the gun. They're already prepared to commit one crime that will get them life in prison, what will a few more matter to them? And if a law abiding citizen who'd otherwise carry a weapon happens to be there, they're powerless to stop the gunman. Reducing gun control won't increase gun violence, it'll decrease it.
 
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Freedom of what exactly?

20 years here with no mass shootings
verses 9 pages of mass shootings in the US just for 2020
Mass Shootings in 2020 | Gun Violence Archive

Figures don't lie.
Guns cause death, that is common sense.
 
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Look into the figures, yes even the 'bad guys' are far less likely to be carrying a gun here.
20 years we have had no mass shooting and on my post above I posted a link to 9 pages of mass shootings in the US just for 2020. You survived which is great, but here you wouldn't have needed to have even gone through that.
 
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Freedom of what exactly?

20 years here with no mass shootings
verses 9 pages of mass shootings in the US just for 2020
Mass Shootings in 2020 | Gun Violence Archive

Figures don't lie.
Guns cause death, that is common sense.

Lack of guns will cause massive deaths when the time is right for an a enemy to make his move. Your nation is being left alone as propaganda for other nations to see and follow.

Remember, we wrestle not against flesh and blood. But against demon rulers who are playing the world like its a chessboard. If your nation had many outbreaks after banning guns? Other nations that are to be brought under control would take heed and resist. You are enjoying a false peace at the moment.

"For our struggle is not against human opponents, but against rulers,
authorities, cosmic powers in the darkness around us, and evil spiritual
forces in the heavenly realm."
Ephesians 6:12


You think your nation would be attacked while there are other strong nations who are able to come to your aid? The USA has no one to come to our aid if we should become so stupid as to defy our own Constitution that gives citizens the right to bear arms. We are going to remain free as far as most Americans are concerned.

So, let other countries be weakened internally as they are used and manipulated by principalities and powers to try to bait us to change our wise ways. Our founding fathers understood how power mad elitists think, and created a system to keep them in check.

Its a spiritual war we are in. People are being duped and conned all the time because they remain ignorant of what the Bible warns about....

"When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house,
his possessions are safe.
" Luke 11:21

You do not believe the words of Jesus.


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Guns did not cause mass shootings years ago when even more people commonly owned guns.

Mass shootings is a sign of societal and mental deterioration. When ungodliness takes over the minds of men.
 
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When the 2nd amendment was written, people had flint lock weapons. Not automatics etc etc
 
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Lack of guns will cause massive deaths when the time is right for an a enemy to make his move. Your nation is being left alone as propaganda for other nations to see and follow.

We have the Army, Navy, Airforce and police force for that.

Remember, we wrestle not against flesh and blood.
Exactly so why are you so relaiant on physical weapons?


If no mass shootings is a false peace we will take it. How many lives has the US lost in mass shootings in the past 20 years? You don't even need an enemy to come in you are all shooting yourselves.

"For our struggle is not against human opponents, but against rulers,
authorities, cosmic powers in the darkness around us, and evil spiritual
forces in the heavenly realm."
Ephesians 6:12

I will say again, why so reliant on physical weaponry? This verse is telling us to pray and fight a spiritual battle in the Spirit. Guns are only of use against a flesh and blood enemy not a demon.

You think your nation would be attacked while there are other strong nations who are able to come to your aid?

It's not civilians coming to our aid or your aid. When allies come to each other's aid its the defence force, not Joe Smith with his AR-15 in suburbia.
Australians have fought alongside Americans in every major US military action of the last century, including World War I, World War II, Korea, Vietnam, the Persian Gulf, Somalia, East Timor, Afghanistan and Iraq.

The USA has no one to come to our aid if we should become so stupid as to defy our own Constitution that gives citizens the right to bear arms. We are going to remain free as far as most Americans are concerned.

Free to shoot each other in mass shootings, by accident and with trigger happy fingers when someone opens the door.
One of my American friends had her niece's husband killed because the cops thought he was the intruder. He was the homeowner.


Your founding fathers didn't have semi-automatics.


The devil has many avenues to bring people down, his main goal is to weaken peoples faith until it is gone, not cause loss of firearms.

They didn't have guns, they would have had a knife or some kind of stick or a rock. No one is saying not to guard your property, its how it's being guarded, the mentality behind it and the ease of which innocents can be killed.
 
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None of which provides a shred of support for the absurd claim I responded to.


What rock have you been living under? Of all the clueless things I've ever heard someone say, this in the top 1%.
I guess you don't need a reason other than wanting to feel tuff Especially when the stats show more kids are killed than saved by guns......Ye-haw more guns over here, not enough kids are dead from gunshot wounds.
 
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Guess what small businesses were spared damage during the recent race riots?
You are pushing a race riot narrative? Now I know exactly what most of these gun people fear. When the renegade blacks and Mexicans come for us we need our guns. BTW I leave not more than a few blocks from where the incident occurred that set people off. There were more white people lighting fires than anybody. Police pulled over a car van with white guys and cases of Molotov cocktails in the back. I saw with my own two eyes, no news story and I know what I saw. Whites have been clamoring for this nationwide race war. All the Aryan Nation videos especially it's like their rapture they all believe in.

I see what people are dog-whistling
 
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We have the Army, Navy, Airforce and police force for that.


Why do they have guns?

When your house is being broken into? Do you have a policeman in your basement when needed in the first few minutes?

Oh.. I see. No one would ever break into your house? Now, that's good laws. Make it illegal for a criminal to break into your house. I wonder how you did it. What's your secret?

Let Jesus know what your secret is? He needs to know, too.


"When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house,
his possessions are safe."
Luke 11:21

I was held up at gunpoint a few years back. Tell me that if we had stronger laws the ones who held me up would have no gun. Well? It worked for illegal drugs. Laws banned them, now we are drug free.

The false peace you are enjoying can be made very short lived by one evil criminal. Like I said. I was held up at gunpoint. The police were not right there when it happened. If it went a little bit different I would not be posting this....

After all... the Bible under all circumstances says that no harm will come to us.

9 The devil led him to Jerusalem and had him stand on the highest point of the temple. “If you are the Son of God,” he said, “throw yourself down from here. 10 For it is written:
“‘He will command his angels concerning you
to guard you carefully;

11 they will lift you up in their hands,
so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.’”


12 Jesus answered, “It is said: ‘Do not put the Lord your God to the test.”
Luke 4:9-12​

Do not test the Lord to protect you after he tells you...

"When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house,
his possessions are safe."
Luke 11:21​

Who was this Jesus anyway?
 
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We know they were. We have videos from Atlanta showing whites lighting fires. One was a white lady who dates a black man... so she is no white supremacist. Blacks are not the ones fomenting these riots. They are props being used to cover for an agenda. Black Lives Matter is really being run by trained Marxists.

In her own words.... Yes., Marxist.

 
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I guess you don't need a reason other than wanting to feel tuff Especially when the stats show more kids are killed than saved by guns......Ye-haw more guns over here, not enough kids are dead from gunshot wounds.
Guns are for adults.
 
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