20 years we have had no mass shooting and on my post above I posted a link to 9 pages of mass shootings in the US just for 2020.
Well let's see, I can bring up just as many or even more statistics as well. For example:
"Despite the overwhelming evidence that gun buy backs (more appropriately called turn-ins) do not affect violent crime, these anti-gun ceremonies continue to be a feature of the American political landscape. In July, Rep. Donald M. Payne introduced the “Safer Neighborhoods Gun Buyback Act,” which would squander a whopping $360 million “for each of fiscal years 2018 through 2020” on a turn-in scheme. Two months earlier, Los Angeles held a buy back that collected nearly 800 guns. In perhaps a tacit acknowledgment that the turn-in held no public safety value, Mayor Eric Garcetti said of the event, “It gives us an opportunity to state our cultural values.”
The U.S. federal government, and American pro-gun and anti-gun researchers have long understood that gun turn-ins do not work as intended. However, recent comments from a pair of Australian researchers show this scientific consensus spans the globe.
Australia is in the midst of a National Firearms Amnesty that runs through September 30. During the campaign, Australians may turn-in illegally held firearms without fear of prosecution, or in some cases register or sell unlawfully possessed firearms if the guns are eligible for civilian ownership.
Speaking with the Australian Broadcasting Corporation, gun control advocate and University of Sydney Associate Professor Philip Alpers expressed a disdain for gun turn-ins. Alpers noted, “All the research studies show that very limited, unenforced amnesties like this one produce no measurable decrease in violent crime. You can't prove they reduce death or injury.” Commenting on the political character of turn-ins, Alpers explained, “They are the politician's favorite feel-good gesture and they generate really useful media images of guns being destroyed.”
Griffith University Senior Research Fellow Samara McPhedran, a skeptic of gun control, shared a similar sentiment. McPhedran suggested that Australians would be better served by “a very focused approach particularly on disrupting criminal activity, and holding offenders to account.”
McPhedran’s comments are in line with a piece she wrote in June concerning the national amnesty. In that item, McPhedran explained, “Australian and international evidence suggests the people who respond to amnesties are characteristically ‘low risk’: they are not the ones likely to be involved in violence.” Further, she implored her readers to “be realistic about what amnesties are, and are not, likely to deliver.”
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"U.S. policymakers, NRA-ILA, and even some of the most ardent anti-gun researchers, have long understood that gun turn-in programs do not hinder criminal violence. Despite the overwhelming evidence, the Land Down Under is currently in the midst of a National Firearms Amnesty program that aims to rid the country of its illegally possessed guns. Given the results so far, it appears unlikely the effort will make a meaningful dent in the country’s stock of illicit firearms.
Australia’s turn-in is set to last through September 30. Thanks to the work of the Sporting Shooters’ Association of Australia (SSAA), in addition to handing guns over for destruction, the amnesty permits gun owners to register firearms that they are eligible to possess, or to sell them through a licensed dealer. In addition to firearms, states and territories are also accepting ammunition, crossbows, knives, and body armor (which typically requires a difficult to obtain license to use).
The Australian Government’s messaging about the purpose of the amnesty has been convoluted. On the one hand, the government has used the specter of crime and terrorism to justify the turn-in. However, the government has admitted that individuals engaged in such activities are unlikely to relinquish their firearms. Justice Minister Michael Keenan admitted to the Australian Broadcasting Company in June that “it’s probably not going to be the case that we will have hardened criminals, for example, who have made a big effort to get ahold of illegal guns, will not necessarily be handing them in.” Instead, it is the government’s purported theory that diminishing the number of unregistered firearms among the law-abiding will somehow stop criminals and terrorists from accessing guns.
In this vein, the government’s National Firearms Amnesty propaganda is geared at the generally law-abiding.
Amnesty posters and pamphlets feature a man handing over a bolt-action rifle and warn that those who do not comply with Australia’s strict gun laws face up to $280,000 in fines and 14 years in prison. The choice of artwork is odd if the government’s goal is public safety, as a 2008 article from the Australian Institute of Criminology pointed out that Australia’s criminals, like those in other countries, favor handguns.
In this vein, the government’s National Firearms Amnesty propaganda is geared at the generally law-abiding.
For their part, gun rights supporters have been skeptical of the program. In June, Liberal Democrat Senator from New South Wales David Leyonhjelm told the Australian Broadcasting Corporation that “[the amnesty is] purely for appearance purposes. It won’t do anything to address guns on the street, they’ll end up with grandma’s rusty old shotgun or rifle. Which was never going to be used in crime in the first place.” Taking a similar position, SSAA stated that the amnesty is “unlikely to affect SSAA members, nor will it entice criminals to hand in their illegal wares.”
The limited anecdotal and statistical evidence from the current turn-in confirms Leyonhjelm and SSAA’s predictions.
According to Justice Minister Keenan, as of August 9, roughly 12,500 firearms had been brought to authorities throughout the country. While some in the Australian press have boasted about the haul, a closer look reveals little to cheer about. Estimates of the number of firearms illegally possessed in Australia range from 260,000 to 600,000. Moreover, sophisticated criminal networks have demonstrated the ability to smuggle large quantities of firearms into the country.
A breakdown of the firearms being turned over to state and territorial governments also does not bode well for the program’s efficacy. So far in Australia’s most populous state, New South Wales, roughly 6,400 firearms have been brought to the authorities. Of those firearms surrendered, 2,160 were rifles or shotguns, while less than 200 were handguns. As noted earlier, just like in the U.S., Australia’s criminals favor handguns. On an encouraging note, the article indicates that the remainder of the 6,400 firearms were brought in for registration, and will continue to be owned by licensed firearms owners.
To the extent that the National Firearms Amnesty offers gun owners who wish to fully comply with Australia’s onerous gun laws the opportunity to register previously unregistered firearms, it is innocuous.
The anecdotal evidence also suggests that many of the firearms that have been turned over did not pose a threat to the community. An article from the ABC shared the story of licensed gun owner Alan Pursell who relinquished a forgotten shotgun he had discovered while moving. The piece went on to relay the comments of Tasmania Police Sergeant Phil Burton, who explained that “about a third of the people taking advantage of the amnesty had told police they inherited the gun or found it while administering a deceased estate.” An article from the Herald Sun was accompanied by a picture of several antique handguns turned over by what the writer termed “an old lady.”
To the extent that the National Firearms Amnesty offers gun owners who wish to fully comply with Australia’s onerous gun laws the opportunity to register previously unregistered firearms, it is innocuous. Of course, given Australia’s history of gun confiscation, one might understand why some Aussie shooters would be reluctant make the government aware of their arms. The pernicious aspect of this program is that it continues to perpetuate the myth that such turn-ins and the subsequent destruction of large quantities of firearms, provided overwhelmingly by otherwise law-abiding individuals, can have a meaningful impact on violent crime. All but the most obstinate anti-gun jurisdictions in the U.S. have recognized the flaws in this strategy and the remaining holdouts here and abroad would be wise to follow suit."
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You survived which is great, but here you wouldn't have needed to have even gone through that.
Not to be dis-respectful, but in all honestly, you don't know that.
Molon Labe!
