George Pell sentenced

[Heavenhome]

A very Christian sentiment.
It is of interest to note that Pell established the first program (1996) to address sexual abuse within the Church which would be funded by but operate independently of the Archdiocese.

Which just makes it outright creepy with what's gone on/going on .

 

[FreeinChrist]

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[creslaw]

Obviously the jury considered what they heard sufficient to find Pell guilty. However, this case still remains unusual because it hangs on belief rather than substantial evidence.

“As The Age’s crime reporter John Silvester has put it, the Court of Appeal has to consider whether a verdict is safe in a case where the defendant “was found guilty beyond reasonable doubt on the uncorroborated evidence of one witness, without forensic evidence, a pattern of behaviour or a confession.”” (Quoted in The Australian, 16 March 2019). I would add demonstrated improbability of opportunity.

When one side characterizes discussion of the case as the disgusting behaviour of “kicking puppies”, and the other side sees it as a “lynch mob mentality”, it is clear feelings are running pretty high, so I am bowing out of this debate … at least until it reignites in June.

 

[creslaw]

Beyond reasonable doubt: Was Pell convicted without fear and favour?

https://www.theage.com.au/national/...-without-fear-and-favour-20190227-p510j0.html

 

[Heavenhome]

I think all has been said.
Charged as guilty.
Pell is now on the sex offenders list.
Only thing left is for the appeal to be over and done with.

I fervently pray that any sex abuse victims will find healing and faith through Jesus our precious Lord.

 

[creslaw]

I do not intend to make any further personal observations but will post articles that are brought to my attention, such as

Victoria judicial system did not give George Pell a fair trial: Tom Percy QC
https://thewest.com.au/opinion/tom-...-really-give-pell-a-fair-trial-ng-b881122383z

 

[Heavenhome]

There's no point in anything else here until he has his appeal.
There will always be arguments but for present at least: he's guilty.

 

[Paidiske]

I understand he's been hospitalised with influenza. I wonder whether he will live to see his appeal.

 

[Heavenhome]

Oh my goodness, never mind people on waiting lists in excruciating pain.
Or is he private even though he's in prison???

Why is this not surprising?

 

[Paidiske]

There's a secure ward in St. Vincent's which is set up for prisoners (same level of care as the public system). My dad used to be a prison warden, so I learned about how these things are handled from him.

I read somewhere in the news earlier today that there's been an influenza outbreak in Victoria's prison and 11 men have been hospitalised.

 

[Bob Crowley]

Cardinal Pell's lawyers have lodged an appeal with the High Court, which is a far as it can go.

George Pell's lawyers look to appeal judges' 2-1 split for High Court bid to have convictions quashed

I'll say this much - it's far from cut and dried in my opinion.

 

[Paidiske]

Technically, his lawyers have applied for leave to appeal; it's not automatic that the High Court will hear it. From what I've been reading, only about 10% of such applications are granted.

We should have an answer on whether or not they'll hear it by the end of the year.

 

[creslaw]

Cardinal Pell's lawyers have lodged an appeal with the High Court, which is a far as it can go.

George Pell's lawyers look to appeal judges' 2-1 split for High Court bid to have convictions quashed

I'll say this much - it's far from cut and dried in my opinion.

Your opinion is shared by a great many Australians whether they are Catholic or even religious.

Pell's team are arguing "erroneous judicial method" which if accepted will ensure the case proceeds to the High Court.’