Genesis 1:5 THE FIRST DAY (KJV)

[davetaff]

Genesis 1:31 And God saw all that He had made, and behold, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day.
Genesis 2:1, 2
1 And so the heavens and the earth were completed, and all their heavenly lights. 2 By the seventh day God completed His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done.

The Bible says what God rested from, is the work he had done during creation.
In other words, God's creative works were complete, and God rested from creative works - he would not be creating anything physical, until that rest day was up.

We could think of it this way.
A person builds a house, and it is completed. He rests from the work of building the house, but does that mean he rests from all work? No.
Since he isn't lazy, as we know God isn't, he works at maintaining the house, and seeing to its upkeep.

Similarly, God rested from the creation of the heavens and earth, and all that is in them, but now, he takes interest in work related to seeing the fulfillment of his purpose for the creation.
So, Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work.

We read about the work the son is doing in scripture. John 4:34

Hi CoreyD
Thank you for your post if the Father and son were still working 2000 years ago then there is nothing in scripture to say God has rested yet.
God will rest when creation is finished that is when we have man in the image of God and that man is Jesus Christ at his second coming when he presents himself too the Father with his body the multitude of believers this is man in the image of God.
Christ is the only person in scripture who is said to be the image of the Father

Heb 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

Love and Peace
Dave

 

[davetaff]

Hi
God could not possibly call the creation before the flood very good because he destroyed it he only saved Noah and what was on the ark with this he began a new creation the onlything he needed to create was man in his image the first man he created was Israel this did not work out so he began anew creation.

2 Corinthians 5:17 ESV
[17] Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come.

2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come. | English Standard Version Revision 2016 (ESV) | Download The Bible App Now

Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come.

bible.com

Heb 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

So we are a new creation in Christ Jesus we are his body he is our head when he presents us to the Father we will be mankind in the image of God.

Love and Peace
Dave

 

[BNR32FAN]

You are saying that Judgment day - the day of the Lord, is a day of 24 hours.

What does the Bible say...
Please read Isaiah 2:11-17.

On that day - bay·yō·wm - that is, the day (yō·wm) of the Lord, which is coming... against Judah and all the inhabitants of Jerusalem, God will "cut off from this place the remnant of Baal and the name of the idolatrous priests along with the priests" Zephaniah 1:4.

In that very day - bay·yō·wm - that is, the day (yō·wm) of the Lord, "all the merchant people are cut down; All those who handle money are cut off", and God "will search Jerusalem with lamps and punish the men settled in complacency, who say to themselves, ‘The LORD will do nothing, either good or bad.’"
"Their wealth will be plundered and their houses laid waste. They will build houses but not inhabit them, and plant vineyards but never drink their wine."
Yes. On that very day - bay·yō·wm - that is, the day (yō·wm) of the Lord. Zephaniah 1:5-14

All that God declared, in these verses, and other related prophesies, did not occur in one literal 24 hour day.
Rather, this occurred during the period, Babylon conquered the land of Israel.

At Jeremiah 46:1-10, God describes his Judgment against Egypt, and surrounding nations, by the Babylonians.

What makes you think that Isaiah 2:11-17 is about the battle between Egypt and Babylon? The judgement described in the passage refers to all men in the entire world, not specific groups or nations. Its talking about Judgement Day which will take place after Christ’s second coming.

 

[CoreyD]

What makes you think that Isaiah 2:11-17 is about the battle between Egypt and Babylon? The judgement described in the passage refers to all men in the entire world, not specific groups or nations. Its talking about Judgement Day which will take place after Christ’s second coming.

You could not possibly have read through my post, and ask that question.
Did I say Isaiah 2:11-17 is about the battle between Egypt and Babylon? No. I did not.

 

[David Lamb]

Hi
God could not possibly call the creation before the flood very good because he destroyed it he only saved Noah and what was on the ark with this he began a new creation the onlything he needed to create was man in his image the first man he created was Israel this did not work out so he began anew creation.

2 Corinthians 5:17 ESV
[17] Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come.

2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come. | English Standard Version Revision 2016 (ESV) | Download The Bible App Now

Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come.

bible.com

Heb 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

So we are a new creation in Christ Jesus we are his body he is our head when he presents us to the Father we will be mankind in the image of God.

Love and Peace
Dave

You seem to be telling Almighty God what He could do. He did see all that He had made, and saw that it was very good. At the Fall, everything was affected by sin, and things went from bad to worse, and as you say, He destroyed all living things (people and animals) apart from those with Noah on the ark. But where do you get the idea that after the Flood, God began a new creation? Noah, his wife and their sons with their wives already existed, as did all the animals.

 

[BNR32FAN]

Hi
God could not possibly call the creation before the flood very good because he destroyed it he only saved Noah and what was on the ark with this he began a new creation the onlything he needed to create was man in his image the first man he created was Israel this did not work out so he began anew creation.

2 Corinthians 5:17 ESV
[17] Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come.

2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come. | English Standard Version Revision 2016 (ESV) | Download The Bible App Now

Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come.

bible.com

Heb 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

So we are a new creation in Christ Jesus we are his body he is our head when he presents us to the Father we will be mankind in the image of God.

Love and Peace
Dave

Noah was born, not created. Yes God played a significant role in his development in the womb but you can’t deny that creation began with Adam & Eve.

“And He answered and said, “Have you not read that He who created them from the beginning made them male and female,”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭19‬:‭4‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

Creation began with the first creation, it doesn’t matter if God flooded the world because there were others before Noah who were faithful to God. Enoch walked with God just like Noah did.

“Then Enoch walked with God three hundred years after he became the father of Methuselah, and he had other sons and daughters. So all the days of Enoch were three hundred and sixty-five years. Enoch walked with God; and he was not, for God took him.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭5‬:‭22‬-‭24‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

 

[davetaff]

Hi BNR32FAN
Thank you for your reply can't argue with it I have wondered was the first Adam created in the same way as the last Adam for we know what the last Adam will look like we will have Jesus Christ the head his body all the believers we will have his bride the church his priests then the children so was the first Adam created in the same way.
I believe that all those faithful to God would be saved by God.

Love and Peace
Dave

 

[BNR32FAN]

You could not possibly have read through my post, and ask that question.
Did I say Isaiah 2:11-17 is about the battle between Egypt and Babylon? No. I did not.

You quoted Isaiah 2 indicating God’s wrath on the day of the Lord then quoted Jeremiah 46 which is specifically about the battle between Egypt and Babylon. Then you went into more detail on the battle between Egypt and Babylon and came to this conclusion…

According to the Bible, this day (yō·wm) of the Lord is a figurative day. Not a 24 hour day.
If you disagree, please provide the scriptural evidence for your assertions.

How could I NOT conclude from your post that your argument is that the battle between Egypt and Babylon was the day of the Lord? How can you say I didn’t read your post when that’s exactly what your post was about?

 

[BNR32FAN]

I do not know the original name given to animals by Adam, or how exactly these creatures looked.
Names we have today, were not necessarily given by Adam.
The origin of the English word cat, Old English catt, is thought to be the Late Latin word cattus, which was first used at the beginning of the 6th century. The Late Latin word may be derived from an unidentified African language. The Nubian word kaddîska 'wildcat' and Nobiin kadīs are possible sources or cognates.

That wasn't a strawman, was it?

We were talking about how animals names have an importance on their characteristics, not how the names evolved in etymology. The original names have nothing to do with the animals physical appearance or behavioral characteristics, do they? They were just a name assigned to animals at random.

 

[BNR32FAN]

Is this your injection?

Is your idea that he had to take time for each name any different? The Bible says that he did it on the 6th day. I’m explaining how it is plausible that it could be done in one day. I don’t see how your idea that he had to take time coming up with each name isn’t an injection.

 

[CoreyD]

You quoted Isaiah 2 indicating God’s wrath on the day of the Lord then quoted Jeremiah 46 which is specifically about the battle between Egypt and Babylon. Then you went into more detail on the battle between Egypt and Babylon and came to this conclusion…

Is this you saying, you did not read through the post?
Are you chopping out pieces of the post, to respond to, while excluding related parts?

I'll highlight what you have excluded.
Although I don't know how you missed it, since it is in bold font.

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Please read Isaiah 2:11-17.

On that day - bay·yō·wm - that is, the day (yō·wm) of the Lord, which is coming... against Judah and all the inhabitants of Jerusalem, God will "cut off from this place the remnant of Baal and the name of the idolatrous priests along with the priests" Zephaniah 1:4.

In that very day - bay·yō·wm - that is, the day (yō·wm) of the Lord, "all the merchant people are cut down; All those who handle money are cut off", and God "will search Jerusalem with lamps and punish the men settled in complacency, who say to themselves, ‘The LORD will do nothing, either good or bad.’"
"Their wealth will be plundered and their houses laid waste. They will build houses but not inhabit them, and plant vineyards but never drink their wine."
Yes. On that very day - bay·yō·wm - that is, the day (yō·wm) of the Lord. Zephaniah 1:5-14

All that God declared, in these verses, and other related prophesies, did not occur in one literal 24 hour day.
Rather, this occurred during the period, Babylon conquered the land of Israel.
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I do not see anything there about the battle between Egypt and Babylon.
I used several scriptures which related to several events, all God's day of judgment. Which is not a 24 hour day.

How could I NOT conclude from your post that your argument is that the battle between Egypt and Babylon was the day of the Lord?

How could you?

How can you say I didn’t read your post when that’s exactly what your post was about?

Because it's not.
There are several nations mentioned in Jeremiah 46, including Moab, which are part of God's Judgment against Egypt, and surrounding nations, by the Babylonians.

 

[CoreyD]

We were talking about how animals names have an importance on their characteristics, not how the names evolved in etymology. The original names have nothing to do with the animals physical appearance or behavioral characteristics, do they? They were just a name assigned to animals at random.

That is funny.

Is your idea that he had to take time for each name any different? The Bible says that he did it on the 6th day. I’m explaining how it is plausible that it could be done in one day. I don’t see how your idea that he had to take time coming up with each name isn’t an injection.

According to the Genesis account...
Genesis 1:28
God blessed them. And God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it, and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”

Genesis 2:7-9
7 Then the Lord God formed the man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and the man became a living person. 8 The Lord God planted a garden toward the east, in Eden; and there He placed the man whom He had formed. 9 Out of the ground the Lord God caused every tree to grow that is pleasing to the sight and good for food...

19 And out of the ground the Lord God formed every animal of the field and every bird of the sky, and brought them to the man to see what he would call them; and whatever the man called a living creature, that was its name. 20 The man gave names to all the livestock, and to the birds of the sky, and to every animal of the field, but for Adam there was not found a helper suitable for him. 21 So the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and he slept; then He took one of his ribs and closed up the flesh at that place. 22 And the Lord God fashioned into a woman the rib which He had taken from the man, and brought her to the man. 23 Then the man said,
“This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called ‘woman,’ for she was taken out of man.”

According to the Bible, names had meaning, and significance.
Genesis 3:20 Adam named his wife Eve, because she would become the mother of all the living.

No. I am not interjecting.
I am using sound reasoning from the scriptures, similar to what the apostle Paul did.
However, I see that your strawman is looking a bit fuzzed out, but you won't let it go, so I won't go any further with this.

If you believe that everything God made good was treated of little value, because a 24 hour day is valuable to you for each creative day, you might as well believe that taking care of the garden named Eden was of little importance.
Perhaps Adam would have named called his wife Meat, when she was formed, and Angela, instead of Eve, but he trying to impress God. Injection.

 

[davetaff]

Noah was born, not created. Yes God played a significant role in his development in the womb but you can’t deny that creation began with Adam & Eve.

“And He answered and said, “Have you not read that He who created them from the beginning made them male and female,”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭19‬:‭4‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

Creation began with the first creation, it doesn’t matter if God flooded the world because there were others before Noah who were faithful to God. Enoch walked with God just like Noah did.

“Then Enoch walked with God three hundred years after he became the father of Methuselah, and he had other sons and daughters. So all the days of Enoch were three hundred and sixty-five years. Enoch walked with God; and he was not, for God took him.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭5‬:‭22‬-‭24‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

Hi BNR32FAN
Thank you for your post I have never said Noah was created he most certainly wasn't what I did say was God began a new creation with Noah and everything on the ark the only thing God needed to create was man in his image.
The first man he created in his image was Israel

Hos 11:1 When Israel was a child, then I loved him, and called my son out of Egypt.

So Israel is Gods son and as such would be the image of his Father and the heavenly host Christ also came out of Egypt so the same creation path.
This is a mirror image of what Christ will do taking a multitude out of the world to present to the Father,
So if we want to know what God and the heavenly host looks like all we need to do is look at Israel

Love and Peace
Dave

 

[BNR32FAN]

All that God declared, in these verses, and other related prophesies, did not occur in one literal 24 hour day.
Rather, this occurred during the period, Babylon conquered the land of Israel.
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You can make the text as big as you want but it still doesn’t change the fact that Isaiah 2 is about Judgement Day NOT the Babylonian conquest of Judea. The statements made in that chapter refer to ALL MEN, THE WORLD, not one specific nation. Do you think God is going to spare the Gentiles that do these things mentioned in the chapter that God detests?

 

[BNR32FAN]

I do not see anything there about the battle between Egypt and Babylon.
I used several scriptures which related to several events, all God's day of judgment. Which is not a 24 hour day.

You didn’t? Then what is all this about?

See the historical record from an extra-Biblical source.
Battle of Carchemish
When the Assyrian capital city of Nineveh was sacked in 612 BC following the Battle of Nineveh, the Assyrians under the leadership of general Ashur-uballit II were forced to flee to the outer territory city of Harran. After the Babylonians captured Harran in 610 BC during the Fall of Harran the Assyrians were forced once again to retreat to the city of Carchemish. Facing a fight for their civilization their Egyptian allies mustered a force to aid the Assyrians in the final battle.However, the Egyptian army of Necho II would be delayed by the Battle of Megiddo (609 BE) in which the Kingdom of Judah under the leadership of Josiah tried to bar the Egyptians from passing through their land. The Jewish force was crushed and Josiah was killed during this engagement, his body buried in the city of Jerusalem in accordance with the ancient Jewish customs.After the victory the Egyptians joined up with the Assyrians and unsuccessfully tried to take back the Harran region from Babylonia. They were forced to retreat back to Carchemish and this time the Babylonians came with their full force. Led by Nebuchadnezzar, the Babylonians crushed the combined forces of Egypt and Assyria and was a decisive changing point in Mesopotamian history.The major record of the battle is known as the Nebuchadnezzar Chronicle which is currently housed in the British Museum. According to the Babylonian account, Nebuchadnezzar and his armies had to cross the Euphrates to crush the Assyrians at Carchemish. The Egyptian army withdrew first and in the aftermath the Assyrians were utterly crushed. The Egyptians that retreated were not so lucky as the Babylonians cut them off at the Hamath district and slaughtered them down to the last man. The Battle of Carchemish is also mentioned in the Bible, such as in the Book of Jeremiah and 2 Chronicles.

The battle at Carchemish was between Babylon and Egypt.

Battle of Carchemish - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Why are you saying you didn’t mention the battle between Egypt and Babylon when I’m just going to quote where you wrote a length paragraph on that exact subject?

 

[CoreyD]

Hi @David Lamb.
I believe you are one of the honest men on these forums... even if you at times are honestly wrong.
Can you help me with something, here, please.
Could you please read Isaiah Chapters 1, 2, and 3, and tell me who these words apply to.
Thanks.

 

[CoreyD]

Why are you saying you didn’t mention the battle between Egypt and Babylon when I’m just going to quote where you wrote a length paragraph on that exact subject?

I said that? WOW. This is unbelievable.

...and @David Lamb, could you read my post here, and tell me if I said I did not mention the Battle of Carchemish, between Egypt and Babylon. Thanks.

 

[David Lamb]

I said that? WOW. This is unbelievable.

...and @David Lamb, could you read my post here, and tell me if I said I did not mention the Battle of Carchemish, between Egypt and Babylon. Thanks.

I think you are mixing me up with another poster. I haven't mentioned the Battle of Carchemish, between Egypt and Babylon, or whether you mentioned them, in my posts.

 

[David Lamb]

Hi @David Lamb.
I believe you are one of the honest men on these forums... even if you at times are honestly wrong.
Can you help me with something, here, please.
Could you please read Isaiah Chapters 1, 2, and 3, and tell me who these words apply to.
Thanks.

Is this a reply to something I have written? It's not clear to me what I have written that relates particularly to Isaiah. Anyway, I have just read through the first three chapters of Isaiah. It applies to Judah, including Judah behaving like Sodom, But like most of the Old Testament, it has application to Christians today. For example:

“2 Now it shall come to pass in the latter days [That] the mountain of the LORD’S house Shall be established on the top of the mountains, And shall be exalted above the hills; And all nations shall flow to it. 3 Many people shall come and say, "Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, To the house of the God of Jacob; He will teach us His ways, And we shall walk in His paths." For out of Zion shall go forth the law, And the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.” (Isa 2:2-3 NKJV)

 

[BNR32FAN]

That is funny.


According to the Genesis account...
Genesis 1:28
God blessed them. And God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it, and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”

Genesis 2:7-9
7 Then the Lord God formed the man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and the man became a living person. 8 The Lord God planted a garden toward the east, in Eden; and there He placed the man whom He had formed. 9 Out of the ground the Lord God caused every tree to grow that is pleasing to the sight and good for food...

19 And out of the ground the Lord God formed every animal of the field and every bird of the sky, and brought them to the man to see what he would call them; and whatever the man called a living creature, that was its name. 20 The man gave names to all the livestock, and to the birds of the sky, and to every animal of the field, but for Adam there was not found a helper suitable for him. 21 So the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and he slept; then He took one of his ribs and closed up the flesh at that place. 22 And the Lord God fashioned into a woman the rib which He had taken from the man, and brought her to the man. 23 Then the man said,
“This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called ‘woman,’ for she was taken out of man.”

According to the Bible, names had meaning, and significance.
Genesis 3:20 Adam named his wife Eve, because she would become the mother of all the living.

No. I am not interjecting.
I am using sound reasoning from the scriptures, similar to what the apostle Paul did.
However, I see that your strawman is looking a bit fuzzed out, but you won't let it go, so I won't go any further with this.

If you believe that everything God made good was treated of little value, because a 24 hour day is valuable to you for each creative day, you might as well believe that taking care of the garden named Eden was of little importance.
Perhaps Adam would have named called his wife Meat, when she was formed, and Angela, instead of Eve, but he trying to impress God. Injection.

The difference between your interpretation and mine, is that my interpretation doesn’t contradict what is actually written in the Bible, whereas your’s does contradict what is written because you don’t believe what is written. My explanation of Adam naming the animals is intended to support what is actually written in the Bible by explaining how Adam naming all the animals in one day is plausible and your’s is intended to refute what is actually written because you don’t believe that the universe was created in 6 days like the Bible says. You’re saying that my plausible explanation isn’t plausible because Eve’s name has a significant meaning but nowhere in the Bible does it say anything about the names of animals having a significant meaning so you’re intention is to contradict what is written by saying that Adam couldn’t possibly name all the animals in one day because you’re only focus is to prove that what is written isn’t correct. But your argument that Adam couldn’t possibly have named the animals the first name that popped into his head is not a fact at all, it’s merely an absurd assumption you’ve conjured up for the sole purpose of rejecting what is written in the Bible. You want to say that it’s not even possible based on your assumption about what Adam named the animals because we don’t even know what he named any of them and that’s the biggest problem of your interpretation. You want the scriptures to say what you want them to say instead of letting the say what they say.