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It absolutely does answer the question. My answer not only said yes it also explained why my answer is yes.
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It absolutely does answer the question. My answer not only said yes it also explained why my answer is yes.This does not address my question.
My question was Do you really believe God rested for 24 hours?
I can ask it another way, if you like.
Is the 7th day also 24 hours, on which God rested?
You didn’t answer my question where do all the souls come from if God is at rest?You did read the text, did you?
Hebrews 4:3-5
3 For we who have believed do enter that rest, as He has said:“So I swore in My wrath,‘They shall not enter My rest,’ ”although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. 4 For He has spoken in a certain place of the seventh day in this way: “And God rested on the seventh day from all His works”; 5 and again in this place: “They shall not enter My rest.”
What rest is here being referred to? Is it not that referred to in verse 4?
Please answer with the use of scripture.
Hi believers who die enter into sleep and Christ will wake them up on his return if we sleep we are not dead.Personally I think that believers who have died have already entered into that rest.
But the verse says: "For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now." It does not say that the Creator is still creating, or that the Creation was not complete. Indeed, we are told:Hi David
Thank you for your reply but what God dose say is
Rom 8:22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
So creation is ongoing and won't be finished until we have man in the image of God and that man is Jesus Christ at his second coming
Heb 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;
So Christ is the only man in scripture who is said to be the image of God
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Dave
The rest that is being mentioned here is the rest that God will give His children from their works. Nowhere does it say that God has continued resting since the 7th day. That’s why I asked you where do all the souls come from every time another person is born.You did read the text, did you?
Hebrews 4:3-5
3 For we who have believed do enter that rest, as He has said:“So I swore in My wrath,‘They shall not enter My rest,’ ”although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. 4 For He has spoken in a certain place of the seventh day in this way: “And God rested on the seventh day from all His works”; 5 and again in this place: “They shall not enter My rest.”
What rest is here being referred to? Is it not that referred to in verse 4?
Please answer with the use of scripture.
I disagree with that idea, Moses and Elijah certainly weren’t asleep at the transfiguration and in Revelation 6 the martyrs cry out to God asking when they will be avenged. Also Abraham and Lazarus weren’t asleep in Abraham’s Bosom.Hi believers who die enter into sleep and Christ will wake them up on his return if we sleep we are not dead.
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Dave
Hi BNR32FANI disagree with that idea, Moses and Elijah certainly weren’t asleep at the transfiguration and in Revelation 6 the martyrs cry out to God asking when they will be avenged. Also Abraham and Lazarus weren’t asleep in Abraham’s Bosom.
They are alive in spirit not in body. The rest the author of Hebrews is referring to is the rest we receive in heaven after our physical death.I think we understand that you have personal beliefs, but what Hebrews is referring to, are the living.
The poster you are responding to, is referring to these "people of God". Hebrews 4:1-13
What is your response concerning these?
Lazarus was not finished with his time here on earth. He was a special case of someone who had died but was going to be resurrected and come back to earth. I don’t think we can apply this situation to everyone since as I pointed out the scriptures clearly show people who did die who were not asleep before Jesus’ second coming.Hi BNR32FAN
Thank you for your reply how about
Jhn 11:11 These things said he: and after that he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus sleepeth; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep.
Jhn 11:12 Then said his disciples, Lord, if he sleep, he shall do well.
Jhn 11:13 Howbeit Jesus spake of his death: but they thought that he had spoken of taking of rest in sleep.
Jhn 11:14 Then said Jesus unto them plainly, Lazarus is dead.
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Dave
The creation account can’t start with Noah because there were likely thousands of people who lived before Noah who were created.Hi
The creation account in Genesis should be applied starting with Noah and will take 7000 years the 7th day the Farthers sabbath rest the end of creation is mankind in the image of God that is Jesus Christ the head his body the multitude of believers which he will present to the Father then Christ will reign over the believers for a 1000 years this is the Fathers sabbath rest for us this will be a time of learning not forgetting we entered his body as little children
Mat 18:3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.
As little children we have a lot to learn
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Dave
Hi DavidBut the verse says: "For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now." It does not say that the Creator is still creating, or that the Creation was not complete. Indeed, we are told:
“2 And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done. 3 Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made.” (Ge 2:2-3 NKJV)
Hi BNR32FANLazarus was not finished with his time here on earth. He was a special case of someone who had died but was going to be resurrected and come back to earth. I don’t think we can apply this situation to everyone since as I pointed out the scriptures clearly show people who did die who were not asleep before Jesus’ second coming.
I did use God’s word I just didn’t quote the particular verses because they should be common knowledge amongst Christians. Are you not familiar with the scriptures regarding the transfiguration where Moses and Elijah appeared before Jesus, Peter, James, and John? Are you not familiar with the story of Lazarus and the rich man? Are you not familiar with the cry out of the martyrs in Revelation 6? All of these people were dead and all of these events took place before Jesus’ second coming. So I’ve given several examples of people who were dead and not sleeping, Moses, Elijah, Abraham, and Lazarus, and also how ever many martyrs there were in Revelation 6 which is probably quite a few. You gave one example of one person whom Jesus was going to resurrect back to life which was a very different situation than the rest.Hi BNR32FAN
Thank you for you reply what I notice is you never use Gods word to backup what you say its not what we say that counts but what God's word says.
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DAVE
I already said that Beyovm can be used to indicate a period of time other than 24 hours. Yovm is never used in that manner with the exception of a few proverbial sayings. Genesis 1 and 2 are not proverbial passages.Is day at Genesis 2:4 figurative?
hi BNR32FANI did use God’s word I just didn’t quote the particular verses because they should be common knowledge amongst Christians. Are you not familiar with the scriptures regarding the transfiguration where Moses and Elijah appeared before Jesus, Peter, James, and John? Are you not familiar with the story of Lazarus and the rich man? Are you not familiar with the cry out of the martyrs in Revelation 6? All of these people were dead and all of these events took place before Jesus’ second coming. So I’ve given 6 examples of people who were dead and not sleeping, Moses, Elijah, Abraham, and Lazarus, and also how ever many martyrs there were in Revelation 6 which is probably quite a few. You gave one example of one person whom Jesus was going to resurrect back to life which was a very different situation than the rest.
You are saying that Judgment day - the day of the Lord, is a day of 24 hours.The day of the Lord is judgement day. There’s nothing about any of these verses that indicate a period of time that is more than 24 hours.
See Jeremiah 47:1-48:1; Obadiah 1:15For that day (wə·hay·yō·wm) belongs to the Lord GOD of Hosts, a day (yō·wm) of vengeance against His foes. The sword will devour until it is satisfied, until it is quenched with their blood. For the Lord GOD of Hosts will hold a sacrifice in the land of the north by the River Euphrates.
So, it is figurative. Okay.Yes I would agree because the Hebrew word Beyovm is used just like in verse 17.
I do not know the original name given to animals by Adam, or how exactly these creatures looked.What importance or value do the names dog, cat, or cow have?
Is this your injection?Unless maybe that person had to name all of the animals in 24 hours and really didn’t care what they were called. I often play a game called Ark Survival where I tame animals and have to name them and I usually just name them the first thing that pops into my head because it really doesn’t matter.
Perhaps you are thinking of knowledge, rather than intelligence.I would say that Adam possessed some intelligence but he was certainly no genius. I mean according to historians the wheel was only invented 5500 years ago which means that according to the genealogy records in the Bible that was around 500 years after creation.
Where is your question? Was it addressed to me?You didn’t answer my question where do all the souls come from if God is at rest?
Opinions and assertions are okay, provided they have supportive references... unless the poster just makes them, with the expectation of not having them considered.The rest that is being mentioned here is the rest that God will give His children from their works. Nowhere does it say that God has continued resting since the 7th day. That’s why I asked you where do all the souls come from every time another person is born.
The Sabbath is the 7th day of the week. Work 6 days then rest on the 7th. Its an ongoing event that’s been happening for several thousand yearsHi
As for Gods sabbath rest its a future event made plain by our Lord
But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work.
So if the Father and Son were working up to the time of Christ it means the Father had not rested so his Sabbath rest is to come and I believe it will be Christ's millennium,
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Dave
Hi PlatteThe Sabbath is the 7th day of the week. Work 6 days then rest on the 7th. Its an ongoing event that’s been happening for several thousand years
Genesis 1:31 And God saw all that He had made, and behold, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day.Hi
As for Gods sabbath rest its a future event made plain by our Lord
But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work.
So if the Father and Son were working up to the time of Christ it means the Father had not rested so his Sabbath rest is to come and I believe it will be Christ's millennium,
Love and Peace
Dave
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