Gays!!!

[allhart]

I hope I live to see the day when Christians are no longer the majority in this nation. What will you say then?

Nations come and go. I have to "endure" only a little while. God is ultimately the one in control and I don't put my hope in people or a nation; my only hope is in God.... I have spoken out emotionally harsh "Sorry, please forgive me for that, my bad!", but God has an unconditional love for us all....

 

[BigBadWlf]

I don't see how 2% of the American people (Gay People) can dictate to the rest of the population to how marriage should be in our society?

I don’t see why any percentage of the population should dictate that some minorities be denied equal rights and equal protection under the law

and if 98% of the other America's would have protested to the passing on (no measure 8.) As the gay community is. It would have been labeled as a hate crime. We the people spoke twice and they protest. Protest in the streets and Protest in the courts to over turn society wishes.

If a election were led in Kansas (to randomly pick a state) to vote away the civil rights of blacks…say the right to eat in restaurants…would those supporting such a vote be called loving?
Just because an unpopular minority is being attacked and denied equal rights does not magically change hate into love…it is still hate

To ram rod your life style down society's throat and it would be just like a liberal judge to over turn the majority of the peoples vote and turn and say they know whats best.

Like those nasty judges who overturned the will of the people and said segregation was unconstitutional?
Like those horrible, horrible judges who overturned the will of the people and said laws banning interracial marriage were unconstitutional?
Like those rotten judges who overturned the will of the people and said lynching really was a crime?

The constitution of this country guarantees that all people…even members of minorities…have equal rights and are guaranteed legal protection under the law. And your personal prejudice does not change this and cannot take the rights of any minority away form them

The best for who 2% compared to the 98% of the population. You people have issues.

At what percentage of the population does bigotry become a bad thing? 5%? 10% 18% what is the magic number please

Overtime you will ware down the people. Just as stated previously you will run your mouths until we can't here nothing else or as you filtrate your selves into prominent positions overtime the 2% of you will have your way.

Just like those uppity ni…err…black people

 

[BigBadWlf]

Not so fast. I have written many, many times that I could not care any less than I do about GLBT's and their sexual proclivities. "I" am not one of the Evangelicals standing against the homosexual lifestyle for homosexuals. It's when they demand that we celebrate their perversions that I stand my ground.

So wanting equal rights is a perversion now?

The evidence speaks against your assertion. A Gay Christianity is not the Church of the Apostles. It is not the Gospel either. It is something foreign and wrong.

Fortunately sharing your personal prejudices isn’t a prerequisite for being a Christian

It's not just Christians that oppose gays and their desires for society. It's just that Christians are in the sights of secularists driving the media.

So you are saying that if bigotry is popular it is acceptable?

Find me one scripture that promotes OR celebrates gay culture. Go to www.biblegateway.com and use any number of different versoins of the Bible and get back to me.

Provided to you more times than I can count…yet you reject the teachings of Jesus "A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.” John 13:34 [qutoe] No way. With gay activism comes gay sex acts being pamphleted in our schools and celebrated to OUR children BY homosexual activists. I have psoted the actual happenings. [/quote] You tried to make that claim before and it was shown to be a complete lie fabricated by fundamentalists Christians. That hasn’t stopped you from making the claim many times over.Please explain why you think it is acceptable to lie about this

That one is off the table J. You referee gay activism out of the schools, no rainbow clubs and no pink triangles and no gay "clubs," and that's the place to start the negotiations. If you want the same thing for Christian clubs, I'll have the treaty signed by morning. If you want debauchery, find it off school grounds. God is big enough to play by the same rules.

Its sad you are so desperate to vilify a minority you would claim children who are different are partaking in “debauchery”

Wrong again, Evangelicals ALL come from the peoples and places they now oppose, or do not support any longer. If anyone knows the debauchery growing in our society, it is those that used to eat it.

Please explain how advocating hate and discrimination against a minority is a good thing

 

[Polycarp_fan]

How are we any different now?

Abraham's math is still holding up.

 

[BigBadWlf]

Civil unions can overflow into other unnatural behaviors.

Like civil rights or interracial marriage

Oh won’t someone PLEASE think of the children?!?!?!?

Which is going to open a black hole that can never be filed. As I and many others have stated before your agenda's have more ramifications than you intent most likely or you don't care. Just proves even more. Right's issues of this sort run into our schools of teaching, also to say that animal lover's will want to jump on the band wagon and will have to teach that as well.

Again this same tactic is and has been used by racists for generations. A racist will compare a person of color to a criminal, substance abuser or as a sexual deviant in order to try to justify their own petty personal prejudices and hatreds.

Right issues! Who gets them and who don't? You sacrifice mine to uphold yours. We have liberty in which is limited by law regulating behavior for we can't legislate morality.

Equal rights for minorities does not infringe on your right to hate. You are free to hate gays and lesbians, blacks, Jews, Muslims, the handicapped, Hispanics, the left-handed…any minority you please.

You don't think the family is important to uphold in above our own Rights for the good of the people. The role which has seen our reproduction of mankind for over 5000 years? People have been having sex outside of marriage just as long. You think that this brakes your will to do other than what you want. Well I don't. If it ain't broken why fix it. I hold to the fact that marriage is sacred in a covenant between three persons God, man and woman. Even to say that it is a contract in a secular view point between man and women even though they use the vows under God.

Please explain why your right to hate is more important than the rights of families headed by gays and lesbians

 

[BigBadWlf]

Welcome to Sodom.

"This is the sin of Sodom; she and her suburbs had pride, excess of food, and prosperous ease, but did not help or encourage the poor and needy. They were arrogant and this was abominable in God's eyes." Ezekiel 16:48-49

Sounds like you would fit right in

 

[Gremlins]

Welcome to Sodom.

Ezekiel 16:49: Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.

Looks like you're there already?

 

[BigBadWlf]

The CDC couldn't arue with that incredibly accurate statement.

Oh, CDC stands for: Centers for Disease Control.

Blacks have significantly shorter lifespans than whites (there is no truth to the claim that homosexuals have shorter life expectancies). Blacks are more likely to suffer from heart disease, diabetes, coronary artery disuse and cancer. Does any of this justify racism?

 

[Polycarp_fan]

So wanting equal rights is a perversion now? Fortunately sharing your personal prejudices isn’t a prerequisite for being a Christian So you are saying that if bigotry is popular it is acceptable?

What's popular is sexual perversion being celebrated and championed to children. What is popular is saintly gay characters in the propaganda machine known as Hollywood.

Provided to you more times than I can count…yet you reject the teachings of Jesus "A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.” John 13:34

And marriage is immutably man and woman. From the beginning and implemented that way by God and NOT to be changed by humans. You conveniently edited the Gospel of that fact. One needs not wonder why for long. And how convenient a scapegoat the fundy Christian is when they bring photos of gay activism in the flesh. Photos and pamphlets.

And it is pure hate to encourage people to sin. It's an even worse sin than just sinning "according" to Jesus.

You want the scriptures?

No way. With gay activism comes gay sex acts being pamphleted in our schools and celebrated to OUR children BY homosexual activists. I have psoted the actual happenings.

You tried to make that claim before and it was shown to be a complete lie fabricated by fundamentalists Christians.

Spare me. It was shown as an actual happeing by gay activist organizations. What do you thin k The Day of Silence is celebrating? It's not giving someone a Hallmark card! Photos don't lie either.

That hasn’t stopped you from making the claim many times over.

You preach propaganda enough and look at how many people you've convinced. Gay sex is just a personal taste and the people that enjoy it are looking for converts. I'm not twenty something anymore. You can't brainwash me with your ploys.

Please explain why you think it is acceptable to lie about this?

Please explain why you are lying about me? There are Rainbow stickers in schools not just in California pal. Those stickers are saying "come join us." They are recruiting tools and you know it. All of you leftists do, and that is why you want Bibles and prayer out of school. You know the power of voice to youth.

Its sad you are so desperate to vilify a minority you would claim children who are different are partaking in “debauchery”

Debauchery. That you ignore what it is and who is promoting it is not a surprise.

Please explain how advocating hate and discrimination against a minority is a good thing

I wouldn't know. I don't encourage anyone to engage in gay sex acts. I don't look at the Gospels and say Jesus is a liar about marriage. I'm not a leftist. If you want to call someone a liar, look at actions. They speak louder than propaganda.

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First they ignore you...
Then they laugh at you...
Then they fight you...
Then you win.
Mahatma Ghandi

Notice Ghandi was not shot and killed by a Christian?

I wonder what would have become of him if he hadn't gone to a secular based college?

 

[kiwimac]

Please explain why you are lying about me? There are Rainbow stickers in schools not just in California pal. Those stickers are saying "come join us." They are recruiting tools and you know it. All of you leftists do, and that is why you want Bibles and prayer out of school. You know the power of voice to youth.

1: The Rainbow sticker is simply a sign just like a cross or a Star of David.

2: Both prayer and the Bible are allowed in public schools at the same time as the Gay Clubs, outside school time.

3: As for the " All you leftists..." please. This issue, like segregation and interracial marriage transcends politics and political labelling.

 

[BigBadWlf]

What's popular is sexual perversion being celebrated and championed to children.




And how convenient a scapegoat the fundy Christian is when they bring photos of gay activism in the flesh. Photos and pamphlets.



Spare me. It was shown as an actual happeing by gay activist organizations.

Your claim of pamphlets was shown to be a complete fabrication made up by a Christian organization.
Lenin was wrong, repeating a lie does not become true

What do you thin k The Day of Silence is celebrating? It's not giving someone a Hallmark card! Photos don't lie either.

“The National Day of Silence brings attention to anti-LGBT name-calling, bullying and harassment in schools.”
“The goal of the Day of Silence is to make schools safer for all students, regardless of sexual orientation and gender identity/expression. Students across the country participate in the Day of Silence to bring attention to this problem, let students who experience such bullying know that they are not alone and ask schools to take action to address the problem.”
“Anti-LGBT bullying and harassment affects all students. Slurs are commonplace in school. The Day of Silence is an example of students, from middle school to college, working together proactively to bring attention to the anti-LGBT name-calling, bullying and harassment experienced by LGBT and straight students alike.”
http://www.dayofsilence.org/

no wonder you hate it

 

[Gremlins]

It justifies judging a culture as having bad eating practices. leftists are well known for judging people that way.

It is not racism that Blacks eat a bad diet. Last time I looked, Blacks are every bot as intelligent as any other "race" and can eat healthy anytime the wish. There is fruit and vegetables in every store that sells Hostess and lard.

Generally, if you want to comment on social issues it's recommended that you do some sociological reading either in books or the internet. It makes you seem less ill-informed.

 

[Polycarp_fan]

Generally, if you want to comment on social issues it's recommended that you do some sociological reading either in books or the internet. It makes you seem less ill-informed.

OK. I just cliked on Safeway market (www.safeway.com) and indeed the sell Hostess and fruit.

I'm thinking that validates my ealier assertion. So I'm going to continue my well reasoned commenting on social issues.

 

[Polycarp_fan]

Your claim of pamphlets was shown to be a complete fabrication made up by a Christian organization.
Lenin was wrong, repeating a lie does not become true



“The National Day of Silence brings attention to anti-LGBT name-calling, bullying and harassment in schools.”
“The goal of the Day of Silence is to make schools safer for all students, regardless of sexual orientation and gender identity/expression. Students across the country participate in the Day of Silence to bring attention to this problem, let students who experience such bullying know that they are not alone and ask schools to take action to address the problem.”
“Anti-LGBT bullying and harassment affects all students. Slurs are commonplace in school. The Day of Silence is an example of students, from middle school to college, working together proactively to bring attention to the anti-LGBT name-calling, bullying and harassment experienced by LGBT and straight students alike.”
http://www.dayofsilence.org/

no wonder you hate it

It's a recruitment technique for GLBT life, lifestyle and behaviors. C'mon now, we're all big kids here. Propaganda and subliminal messages are common tactics of mind-control efforts.

 

[Polycarp_fan]

1: The Rainbow sticker is simply a sign just like a cross or a Star of David.

The Cross or a Star of David. You'ld better believe it.

2: Both prayer and the Bible are allowed in public schools at the same time as the Gay Clubs, outside school time.

Only the Bible and Christians is allowed to be ridiculed during school time.

3: As for the " All you leftists..." please. This issue, like segregation and interracial marriage transcends politics and political labelling.

Wrong. Obama may try to sell a nation undivided, but in reality the two worlds of liberals-progressives and conservatives are incompatible and always will be. It's interesting that the conservatives stand for more unfettered personal freedoms than do the Leftists.

When the Left imposes their lascivious and licentious legislative and taxation might on the populace, this is when the social civil conflict begin.

It's all about "All you Leftists . . ."

 

[Polycarp_fan]

Your claim of pamphlets was shown to be a complete fabrication made up by a Christian organization.
Lenin was wrong, repeating a lie does not become true

Remember that with the words "same-sex marriage."

That lie will never find anything close to total acceptance. But then again, all the left needs is well placed judges to rule the populace.

 

[Belk]

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Remember that with the words "same-sex marriage."

That lie will never find anything close to total acceptance. But then again, all the left needs is well placed judges to rule the populace.

That and time. Currently the population is fairly evenly split on the issue. Most of the younger voters do not see this as an issue, so as the dynamics shift things will move towards a more egalitarian society.

 

[Corey]

Only the Bible and Christians is allowed to be ridiculed during school time.

Uh-huh...please oh please tell me when, where, and how...

Wrong. Obama may try to sell a nation undivided, but in reality the two worlds of liberals-progressives and conservatives are incompatible and always will be.

Yes, liberals believe that people are basically good; conservatives believe people are basically bad. (And cynics believe people are stupid)

It's interesting that the conservatives stand for more unfettered personal freedoms than do the Leftists.

*giggle* *snerk*

Yeah...all those liberal book burners...right...

When the Left imposes their lascivious and licentious legislative and taxation might on the populace, this is when the social civil conflict begin.

It's all about "All you Leftists . . ."

Heh...well...thanks.

 

[Belk]

It's a recruitment technique for GLBT life, lifestyle and behaviors. C'mon now, we're all big kids here. Propaganda and subliminal messages are common tactics of mind-control efforts.

Because if you don't talk for a day it turns you gay. They have implanted subliminal messages in the silence.

 

[No Swansong]

Anybody feel up to answering this?

To be fair Mourningstar it would be inappropriate to most Christians to answer these questions. We are told to do our good works anonymously and to avoid discussion of them. Most Christians will not answer his question even though many have worked to help solve some if not many of these issues.