Funny how we say Non-denominational when denominational means that no one church has the monopoly on the truth, but rather that the various sects or "denominations" are equally valid expressions of the faith.
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CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.
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Alenci
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Well, I personally think minor differences don't matter that much. For the most part, we all worship the same God and believe that Jesus Christ His son died to save us from sin. God sent His Holy Spirit out into the world.
Differences in how we worship, or small differences in how we interpret Scripture, seem so much less important in context.
I think as far as saying that all are valid goes- well, how else could you reach a compromise? It's just an attempt to end destructive theological bickering and unite the various denominations. It's more of a stance of "all are right until someone demonstrates that his denomination has been given the absolute truth!"
P.S. Salve, my fellow Latin nerd
Differences in how we worship, or small differences in how we interpret Scripture, seem so much less important in context.
I think as far as saying that all are valid goes- well, how else could you reach a compromise? It's just an attempt to end destructive theological bickering and unite the various denominations. It's more of a stance of "all are right until someone demonstrates that his denomination has been given the absolute truth!"
P.S. Salve, my fellow Latin nerd
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Jesus said, "I am the way the truth and the life, and no one comes to the Father but by me."
"Non-denom" is really meaningless. It's a way for puffed up people to help themselves feel even more self-righteous than they already do. "Me? Oh, I'm non-denominational!" Yippeeeeee...
"Non-denom" is really meaningless. It's a way for puffed up people to help themselves feel even more self-righteous than they already do. "Me? Oh, I'm non-denominational!" Yippeeeeee...
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My point is - Being denominational means to believe that no ONE church has a monopoly on God or on the Truth. Funnier still that the Reformers were NON-denominational Just like the Catholic church was in that day. To be non-denominational is to be Sectarian which means that you believe that YOUR church and your church ALONE has the Truth of the faith and that all others are lost.
The meanings of the words in question have done a total flip flop.
The meanings of the words in question have done a total flip flop.
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Funny, I never thought of myself as "puffed up."Higgaion said:
I am a member of a non-denominational church because it is where God has placed me. It is also a place where the Bible is taught without compromise. I'm sure the same could be said of some denominational churches......
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The church of which I am a member is also classified as "non-denominational." I didn't think anything of it until I did a little reading which enlightened me as to what it meant to our forefathers to be "denominational."
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Hi there!Higgaion said:
Just acknowledging your insult that I am "puffed up".
What arrogance... did you learn that from Christ or does "hate" just generate out of your spiritual bloodline.
I think a public apology is in order... from you... not me.
~malaka~
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Matthew 11:6
And blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in me.
Try not to take offence to things unless you know the offence was intentional
And blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in me.
Try not to take offence to things unless you know the offence was intentional
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Oops, was I inflammatory? Sorry, Lana, you know I'm tryiiiiing. And I will apologize to Knight. I should have said in most cases, not all. What I mean is that non-denominational people often seem to wear it as a badge of pride, as if it puts them on a higher "ecumenical" plane than those of us who strongly identify with a particular historic religion.
As for you, Malaka...ok, same as for Knight. If that doesn't describe you, sorry.
As for you, Malaka...ok, same as for Knight. If that doesn't describe you, sorry.
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My Religion is Christian. My approach is Franciscan. My inclination is to call all Brother who love the Lord and live in light of the Gospel by they protestant or Sacramental.
I'm just worried about the way words we use are being abused and twisted to mean other than they mean. It's like people who use the word IGNORANT to mean rude.
I'm just worried about the way words we use are being abused and twisted to mean other than they mean. It's like people who use the word IGNORANT to mean rude.
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