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Hey blessed to read you guys......question????........any body here every get one vulger, filthy, foul, ungodly thought againts the Holy Spirit one after another.....and it even seems like your mind is trying to conjure them up againts your will and after 2 and a half years of constant obsessions about the unpardonable sin and the most horrific blasphemois thoughts you feel numb to them and it's like they have become a habit to think them....it's kinda like you want to think them even Thoe you don't mean it and you just can't stop wanting to think that way.......it's like your mind is brain washed againts everything having to do with mostly the Spirit of God....I feel guilty for wanting to think this way
 
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Satan and demons do this to torment a persons mind. A lot of people deal with this.
 
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I can totally relate. I know exactly what you are going through brother. You're not alone
 
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I am certainly glad to see that I'm not alone these thoughts are 24 seven it's like there's a Nother me inside of my brain.......... My brain has got in a habit now of cursing every single thing having to do with god if I hear it and it's a godly my mind will cuss it but like I said I'm numb to the Blasphemous thoughts......every now and then they may put a little scare on me but it's like my mind has been brainwashed
 
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"So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed" John 8:36 (NIV)

Just felt like returning to this convo (over a year since my first post!) to let you all know that I'm still doing well! Of course it doesn't mean that fear doesn't try creepin' at my door, but I'm still victorious when I'm wearing the Armor of God!!

Ephesians 6:10-17

"Finally, be strong in the LORD and in his mighty power. Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil's schemes. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God."

Lol I was seriously going to go ahead and highlight the whole passage in pink 'cuz it's all so good, haha!!

Take care, everyone! Love you!
Jesus loves you more though, forever and into eternity!!

-Fauna
 
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This helps alot ..makes my eyes water honestly ...intrusive thought are a struggle for me.
 
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This helps alot ..makes my eyes water honestly ...intrusive thought are a struggle for me.
Really awesome post I struggle with Blasphemous thoughts so severely it's to the point now to where I'm numb to them but they're still constant it's as if they've become a habit it's one thought after another I get new thoughts constantly but I'm hanging in there I'm also a pastor of a church I love the Lord with all my heart but at times these thoughts seem so real it sucks having a mental illness but I'm still going to press toward God and serve him with all my heart mind and soul
 
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Anybody ever struggle with wanting to speak your blasphemous thoughts out loud against the Holy Ghost and it times do you save him on controllably though you don’t mean them........ trying to reprogram your mind after almost 4 years of the F word against the Holy Ghost. Another question every time I read the word Holy Ghost or think about the Holy Ghost my mind begins to curse a feeling of blasphemy comes over me as if I want to say something horrible against the Holy Ghost so deep down inside I know that’s not true because this be OCD I tried a few medications all up to no avail I think God is the only answer Jesus Christ
 
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Thanks for reaching out and being willing to share your struggles! This sounds like very classic OCD. How are you trying to "reprogram" your brain? Although OCD can feel debilitating (I've struggled with it for 20+ years), the beautiful thing is that there are ways to manage it and to control it to the point that you can have peace and freedom in your mind again. Medication can be helpful (so I hear, I've never taken it myself) but the best way to gain long-term freedom is to use therapy tactics, mostly ERP (exposure and response prevention) therapy. That doesn't mean you have to actually go to therapy; you can teach yourself how to use the techniques. Are you familiar with ERP? I'd be happy to provide more information, and I also can give links to some very helpful websites about OCD if you're interested. There is definitely hope and freedom available if you are willing to work for it!
 
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OK, to add to what I just posted: I just wrote a pretty detailed response on another thread that you might find pertinent to your situation, although it's about a different obsession:
Obsessive thoughts about ghosts
Also please check out the links I posted in that thread - I think you'll find them really helpful!!
 
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I've heard of Erp that's kind of where I'm at now letting the thought just be there but it seems in the morning I want to think that thought I don't understand it it's as if my very flesh wants to indulge in those thoughts because they've been in the my mind so long that's the only way my mind knows how to think anything to do with religion I mean I can just look it up Bible and my mind will say F the Bible because it's been there for so long it's like a habit and now it's as if that's the only thing I can do. I've heard of Erp as to the fact that you confront your thoughts and let them be or expose yourself to those things
 
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My thing to was can OCD come with real feelings sometimes I get thoughts against God though I love God but it's like feelings of hatred come over me towards God or I will hear dirty thoughts against the spirit in my head and I will want to speak them out loud and it feels as if I mean them though in reality I love God love the Holy Spirit I have no desire to curse anything pertaining to God..... I don't know if it's the frustration from fighting for years or fighting for my sanity non-stop thoughts trying to enjoy Jesus but yet your mind seems to make you feel like you're a different human being a blasphemer
 
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Yep that's OCD all the way. OCD is really crafty and likes to make us think that we really "want" to do something bad. I don't know if you have any compulsions but I would start trying to cut out those if you have any. Ignoring the thoughts is also good. Not pushing them away (which is a compulsion) or trying to block them, just letting them come. It will feel like you have to ask forgiveness, but you have to realize that your mind doesn't actually mean the thoughts, and just let them be. Yes, some people purposely expose themselves to the fears which can bring healing more quickly. Jackie Lea Sommers actually has a script for the very obsession you have, although it will probably trigger your anxiety to read it. It's all up to the individual about how far they want to go. Personally I think exposing yourself is helpful but there are limits as to what I would write in my script. I won't do anything that is truly against my conscience, although sometimes we have to do something that goes against our OCD conscience. Dr. Ian Osborn just wrote some very good posts about that on his blog if you want to check that out.
 
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Awsome....the fear that was in the begining has toned down considerably.......now its become a habbit to think in such a negitive way toward everythinvg having to do with God.........i think having done so many crazy compulsions in the begining day in and day out.....and allso reading the internet constantly for reassurence....it got so out of controle that if I had a happy emotion or I begin to think happy thoughts the more the F word wanted to come in my mind againts the Holy Spirit. To having not seen an actual specialist questions begin to rise such as can OCD make you seem like you are Conjuring up these thoughts yourself I've had days where it was one new thought after another against the Holy Spirit involving pornographic thoughts to whatever you name it and it seemed I was Conjuring these things up the feeling that would come over me it was as if it made me believe that I was thinking these things out of hatred which then would scare me even more as if I truly was or had a heart of hatred towards God it was so confusing the feelings and the thoughts together that I totally lost track of who I even was I have read Jackie Lee Sommers and I found it a very helpful article but it seems every morning my mind wants to start out by saying if the you-know-what and then it seems the more I want to indulge in it which then makes me feel disgusting and as if I have turned into a monster and it seems some part of me wants the thoughts there...... these thoughts have produced what some may call derealization or just a numb feeling Within Me and it seems that my body is so used to feeling this way so my mind begins to conjure up ungodly things that my body may go into the realization mo may go into d-deralization mode don't know if any of this makes sense
 
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Anyways thank you for taking your time to talk to me was hoping I could talk to somebody who has experienced this for some years so really appreciate the advice I'm a pastor and I truly believe Jesus can heal my mind but was really hoping to find someone who has gone through the same thing makes us feel a little better that we're not alone sometimes I just cry even so come quickly Lord and take us out of this world
 
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It does make sense. OCD has a way of twisting our brains and confusing us to the point that we don't even know which thoughts/feelings are ours, and which are OCD. I wouldn't worry too much about whether or not you feel fear about the thoughts. OCD will often play that trick too - "You feel numb therefore the thoughts are really from you." Or whatever. I'm not sure if you're interested, but there's a FB support group for people with anxiety/OCD that I am a part of, and I can give you the info if you are interested in joining. Basically, the key is to keep doing ERP therapy. That means ignoring the thoughts, and not doing any compulsions. If you feel like you don't understand it well enough to put into practice, I would suggest finding a therapist or researching it thoroughly. Your life is too important to have it sucked away by OCD. It IS possible to overcome! (Recommended resources are Strivings Within: The OCD Christian by Mitzi VanCleve, and the links I mentioned in the other thread).
 
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OK, it's called Christianity and Anxiety Disorders - Let's Talk. You should be able to find it through a search. Once you request to join you'll be asked to answer two questions - whether or not you're a Christian, and whether or not you have an anxiety disorder. You should be approved within a day or two. I'm one of the moderators so I'll let the other moderators know you're OK to add.
 
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