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I recall many times before I was a believer I was in church during the end at the usual call to the altar, I often felt a struggle. Part of me wanted to go up, part of me resisted. I think one can and does resist, but I know when they stop resisting, you will then say it's because God made them stop. I'm afraid I'm beginning to see the predictable pattern in Calvinism I forgot about. It's coming back to me. A lot of splitting hairs is needed to make TULIP fit the bible
not necessarily.
Where does the Bible say that an altar call is God "wooing" you to repent and believe?
Don't you see that your argument for free will is primarily one of rebellion, and defiance? To prove free will, it is said that one must be able to reject Christ. Well, men are born naturally in that state. Men are born fallen, they don't fall at some point later. So rebellion is man's natural state. And that natural state is bondage to sin. In what way can one in bondage be said to be free? Yet the "proof" of free will is rebellion.
I dont think that its found in the Bible but I can certainly relate to the enormous conviction that used to overwhelm me when the altar call was given. Its as the other person said, it was like an inward battle with part of me wanting to step out and the other part of me wanting to stay seated, I can even remember gripping the pew in front of me and trembling. If that wasnt the Holy Ghost then what was it?
Well, I know you dont agree but I believe the "unpardonable sin" is proof that fallen man can and does often reject the message of the Holy Ghost.
Emotions?
The Bible doesn't say "find the courage to stand up in a crowd and change geographical locations", it says to repent and believe.
Well, I know you dont agree but I believe the "unpardonable sin" is proof that fallen man can and does often reject the message of the Holy Ghost.
Take a look at this thread....
Only apostates, people who have experienced the Holy Spirit (Hebrews 6:4-6), can commit the unpardonable sin for the unpardonable sin is a sin of knowledge.
However, we can't dismiss the unpardonable sin as a dead sin. The unpardonable sin can be committed today!
One way I know of is by blaspheming the manifestations of the Holy Spirit (1 Corinthians 12:7-10).
I have read it before and dont fully agree with it as it clearly limits other passages which speak of the unpardonable sin and it certainly can be committed today, Hebrews are full of such warning passages and Jpark has the best response in that thread.
He's mostly right. the Unpardonable sin is not and cannot be unbelief. Yet many today try to teach that it is. As for the Hebrews passage, there was an answer in that thread by JesusFreak5000 that was mostly ignored, but I think he had a handle on it. It is good to remember that the entire book of Hebrews was directed to....Hebrews. Jews. And it addresses things specific to the Jewish faith. It might help to keep that perspective....
He's mostly right. the Unpardonable sin is not and cannot be unbelief.
Personally, I split when it gets repetitive and testy. Maybe that's the same thing as deep and difficult around here, I don't know.Why does everyone always split when the conversation gets deep and difficult? Or do I just have an uncanny ability at running people off? Im beginning to develop a complex.
ornery would be fleshly, passionate would be spiritual, you make the call. But remember search your own heart before you do others!It is amazing how each side can get so ornery, or would they call that passionate around here
ornery would be fleshly, passionate would be spiritual, you make the call. But remember search your own heart before you do others!
I haven't split Rob. I read every one of your posts. Well I may have missed a few.Why does everyone always split when the conversation gets deep and difficult? Or do I just have an uncanny ability at running people off? Im beginning to develop a complex.
As for the Hebrews passage, there was an answer in that thread by JesusFreak5000 that was mostly ignored, but I think he had a handle on it. It is good to remember that the entire book of Hebrews was directed to....Hebrews. Jews. And it addresses things specific to the Jewish faith. It might help to keep that perspective....
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