As for DeaconDean’s comments about the sin of homosexuality in post #40 of this thread, they are both Biblically and clinically incorrect...DeaconDean’s claim that homosexuality is no more difficult to “cure” than heroine addiction is nearly as clinically incorrect as a statement could possibly be.
Sticks and stones my friend, sticks and stones.
Let me tell you something my friend.
Having myself gone through rehab, one thing that has to be present in an individual is the desire to be cured. No amount of "rehab," no amount of "counciling" could convince me to give up my marijunia.
I loved to smoke dope. I loved to drink.
But what "rehab" could not accomplish, God did!
When I rededicated my life to God some 10 years ago, He took all the desire to drink and/or smoke "pot" away from me. I have 3832 days of sobrity under my belt, and it is all to God's power, not mine.
Engaging in homosexuality is an especially serious sin.
Yes it is, but, is it more severe than the person who engages in inappropriate behavior with animals?
According to you, it is.
The Apostle Paul, writing by inspiration of the Holy Spirit, declares that homosexuality "shall not inherit the kingdom of God" (
I Corinthians 6:9; 10). Now
Paul does not single out the homosexual as a special offender. (emphasis mine) He includes fornicators, idolators, adulterers, thieves, covetous persons, drunkards, revilers and extortioners. And then he adds the comment that some of the Christians at Corinth had been delivered from these very practices: "And such were some of you: But ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the spirit of our God" (
I Corinthians 6:11). All of the sins mentioned in this passage are condemned by God, but just as there was hope in Christ for the Corinthians, so is there hope for all of us.
Paul attributes the moral depravity of men and women to their rejection of "the truth of God" (1:25). They refused "to retain God in their knowledge" (1:28), thereby dethroning God and deifying themselves. The Old Testament had clearly condemned homosexuality but in Paul's day there were those persons who rejected its teaching.
Because of their rejection of God's commands He punished their sin by delivering them over to it. (emphasis mine)
What should be the Christian's attitude toward the homosexual?
We must always keep before us the fact that homosexuals, like all of us sinners, are the objects of God's love. The Bible says, "But God commendeth His love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us" (
Romans 5:8). Jesus Christ "is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world" (
I John 2:2). The Christian who shares God's love for lost sinners will seek to reach the homosexual with the gospel of Christ, which "is the power of God unto salvation, to every one that believeth" (
Romans 1:16). As a Christian I should hate all sin but I can find no justification for hating the sinner. The homosexual is a precious soul for whom Christ died. We Christians can show him the best way of life by pointing him to Christ. Our Lord said, "Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature" (
Mark 16:15). We are obligated to take the gospel to all.
http://www.bible.org/page.php?page_id=1302
However, the Bible does not describe homosexuality as a “greater” sin than any other. All sin is offensive to God. Homosexuality is just one of the many things listed in 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 that will keep a person from the kingdom of God. According to the Bible, God’s forgiveness is just as available to a homosexual as it is to an adulterer, idol worshipper, murderer, thief, etc. God also promises the strength for victory over sin, including homosexuality, to all those who will believe in Jesus Christ for their salvation (1 Corinthians 6:11; 2 Corinthians 5:17).
http://www.gotquestions.org/homosexuality-Bible.html
And in all, it does not make up for the Rev. Fred Phelps preaching nothing more than "pure hate."
And to attribute that same hatred to all Calvinists:
Fred Phelps, being a hardcore Calvinist,
As well is equally wrong.
Yes homosexuality is a grevious sin. but is it any worse than the sin committed by Judas?
Yes the Bible teaches varying degrees of sin and varying degrees of punishment,
"And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. " -Lk. 12:47-48 (KJV)
But will being a homosexual be the only reason you'll be cast in the lake of fire?
That isn't what the Bible teaches.
"...he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God...he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him." -Jn. 3:18,36 (KJV)
The reason why Paul says they would be given up to a reprobate mind is because He has quit striving with them. (Gen. 6:3)
They have quenched the Spirit. (1 Thes. 5:19)
They have not believed the truth and have found pleasure in unrighteousness. (2 Thes. 2:12)
Because they are homosexual is not why they'll eventually be cast into the lake of fire, it is because they have rejected the Lord Jesus Christ as thier Savior.
The Rev. Fred Phelps preaches nothing but pure hatred, hatred for those who are homosexual, hatred for those who have fought in Iraq, and hatred for those who have died in the war in Iraq.
And no excuses by you, me, or anybody else can make up for what this man preaches.
God Bless
Till all are one.