Freckle Face Strawberry banned by Trump administration

[Bradskii]

No word has been banned. Why are you trying to spread "dis/mis/information"?

Pay attention. I said that what you said was bizarre.

The word has been banned:

'More than 8000 US government websites were taken down last week after all government departments and agencies were ordered to on Wednesday 29 January to “end all agency programs that use taxpayer money to promote or reflect gender ideology.” They were given until 5 pm on Friday 31 January to do so.1

Agencies were told to replace mentions of “gender” with “sex” because President Donald Trump said the US recognised only two sexes, male and female.2 They were also told to remove mentions of “gender ideology”

And that is what I explained previously. Which you thought was bizarre. I couldn't agree more.

 

[Chesterton]

The word has been banned:

'More than 8000 US government websites were taken down last week after all government departments and agencies were ordered to on Wednesday 29 January to “end all agency programs that use taxpayer money to promote or reflect gender ideology.” They were given until 5 pm on Friday 31 January to do so.1

Agencies were told to replace mentions of “gender” with “sex” because President Donald Trump said the US recognised only two sexes, male and female.2 They were also told to remove mentions of “gender ideology”

And that is what I explained previously. Which you thought was bizarre. I couldn't agree more.

You're just repeating yourself and you're still wrong.

 

[rambot]

Oh how I wish that were true. Problem is, I've dealt with the people who push papers around in order to accomplish nothing but making make life less efficient and more miserable for the rest of us.

The "problem is" that you think that's what they're doing because it's easier than trying to undersatnd their situation.

She did in fact. She turned me down for a date.

How many female government employees did you get turned down by to make the grudge so strong?

 

[Chesterton]

How many female government employees did you get turned down by to make the grudge so strong?

You asked me about Penny. Why are you shifting the goalposts?

 

[RDKirk]

I know you were raised to be comfortable trying to be deceptive about what people have said and then arguing with them using your deception as a basis for truth and even when you are confronted with your error, not repenting or apologising for it.

I haven't seen where I've been shown wrong. And, no, you don't know how I was raised. I've seen some incredible levels of arrogance from newbies when they step into here, but...wow.

 

[Bradskii]

You're just repeating yourself and you're still wrong.

I'm not repeating myself. I'm literally telling you what Trump has ordered. I forgot to put the link for the quote in the last post. Here it is: US websites close down after Trump’s order to recognise two sexes only

Plus this: https://apnews.com/article/trump-ge...-transgender-2d7e54837f5d0651ed0cefa5ea0d6301

Public health data disappeared from websites, entire webpages went blank and employees erased pronouns from email signatures Friday as federal agencies scrambled to comply with a directive tied to President Donald Trump’s order rolling back protections for transgender people.

The Office of Personnel Management directed agency heads to strip “gender ideology” from websites, contracts and emails in a memo sent Wednesday, with changes ordered to be instituted by 5 p.m. Friday. It also directed agencies to disband employee resource groups, terminate grants and contracts related to the issue, and replace the term “gender” with “sex” on government forms.

And here: ‘Mind-boggling’: US CDC orders gender-related terms cut from scientific papers

'The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has mandated that all scientific manuscripts produced by its researchers that are under review at a journal be withdrawn so that certain language relating to gender can be stripped from them.'

Why are you denying this?

 

[Johan2222]

I haven't seen where I've been shown wrong. And, no, you don't know how I was raised. I've seen some incredible levels of arrogance from newbies when they step into here, but...wow.

Having seen the line of your argument for the past several hours, I am not in the least bit surprised that you are unable to discern your error. If you care to look back through the posts, however it’s post number 53 made at 3:41 pm.

Naturally, I won’t hold my breath expecting you to be able to discern what eluded you the first time.

As for your assertion that people who have only been in a particular room for a few months must be arrogant if they point out the sin and deception of people who have been there for several months or longer, do you seriously have no shame at all in trying to attach any merit to that claim?

Can you honestly not see that that was one of the classic arguments of the Pharisees against Christ who were constantly resorting to Moses and ancient Scriptures to justify their longevity in history as a confirmation of their righteousness?

Although you claim that I don’t know much about your upbringing, I would have you know that “the spirit searches all things” and when a child has been trained up in the way he should go it is obvious in his deeds.

Your deeds say more about you than you are able to discern and your judgement of me as arrogant simply based upon what time I came into a room where you were, does not surprise me in the slightest.

 

[Chesterton]

I'm not repeating myself. I'm literally telling you what Trump has ordered. I forgot to put the link for the quote in the last post. Here it is: US websites close down after Trump’s order to recognise two sexes only

Plus this: https://apnews.com/article/trump-ge...-transgender-2d7e54837f5d0651ed0cefa5ea0d6301

Public health data disappeared from websites, entire webpages went blank and employees erased pronouns from email signatures Friday as federal agencies scrambled to comply with a directive tied to President Donald Trump’s order rolling back protections for transgender people.

The Office of Personnel Management directed agency heads to strip “gender ideology” from websites, contracts and emails in a memo sent Wednesday, with changes ordered to be instituted by 5 p.m. Friday. It also directed agencies to disband employee resource groups, terminate grants and contracts related to the issue, and replace the term “gender” with “sex” on government forms.

And here: ‘Mind-boggling’: US CDC orders gender-related terms cut from scientific papers

'The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has mandated that all scientific manuscripts produced by its researchers that are under review at a journal be withdrawn so that certain language relating to gender can be stripped from them.'

Why are you denying this?

This post is just a Gish gallop of truths, partial truths, and outright falsehoods. I'm not going to waste my time dissecting it line by line.

 

[Bradskii]

When you grow up in the wilderness without mirrors and with your daily chores including walking barefoot to the crocodile infested river 3 miles away, avoiding snakes and scorpions and lions on the way to get water for your family in two old paint buckets I can assure you from many years of personal experience that the last thing you are thinking about...

There are crocodiles in Taunton?

 

[Chesterton]

There are crocodiles in Taunton?

England's lax immigration policies are to blame.

 

[Bradskii]

This post is just a Gish gallop of truths, partial truths, and outright falsehoods. I'm not going to waste my time dissecting it line by line.

Gish gallop? This is all information about the same point. With actual quotes. It doesn't have you bouncing around from one topic to another as a gish gallop would do. Each link is an additional confirmation of what has been explained to you. I can give you plenty more if you'd like. But if you choose to ignore the evidence then I'll not waste any more of my time. Actually, on second thoughts, this won't take any of your time. Try the following links from a government web page on census data. The links refer to gender.

Unbinding the Ties: Edit Effects of Marital Status on Same Sex Couples

Assesses current Census Bureau edit procedures for marital status and household relationship among same sex couples.

www.census.gov

https://www.census.gov/topics/population/sexual-orientation-gender-identity/about.html

https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2021/08/household-pulse-survey-updates-sex-question-now-asks-sexual-orientation-and-gender-identity.html

Get a 404 message? Yeah, you bet you did. The pages have been down because the US government doesn't believe in gender. Talk about it has been banned. How much more confirmation do you need?

 

[Johan2222]

There are crocodiles in Taunton?

Oh sure, England is absolutely infested with crocodiles. There were three at the bus stop the other day waiting for the number 22 to Wellington. I think they were going shopping to get some boots.

 

[RDKirk]

Gish gallop? This is all information about the same point. With actual quotes. It doesn't have you bouncing around from one topic to another as a gish gallop would do. Each link is an additional confirmation of what has been explained to you. I can give you plenty more if you'd like. But if you choose to ignore the evidence then I'll not waste any more of my time. Actually, on second thoughts, this won't take any of your time. Try the following links from a government web page on census data. The links refer to gender.

Unbinding the Ties: Edit Effects of Marital Status on Same Sex Couples

Assesses current Census Bureau edit procedures for marital status and household relationship among same sex couples.

www.census.gov

https://www.census.gov/topics/population/sexual-orientation-gender-identity/about.html

https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2021/08/household-pulse-survey-updates-sex-question-now-asks-sexual-orientation-and-gender-identity.html

Get a 401 message? yeah, you bet you did. The pages are down because gender is banned.

Well, again, I think there is some malicious compliance going on.

Or...Critical Race Theory and Critical Gender Theory ideology has been worked more deeply into the curriculum than I realize.

As an example in another area where the same things are happening, I got bamboozled for a short time when it was reported that the Air Force suddenly had removed the Tuskegee Airmen from its Air Force Basic Training curriculum, ostensibly because this same Executive Order. As it turned out, the Air Force had delayed teaching that block of training for a couple of weeks to make sure it conformed to the new guidelines, then the training was put back into the program with no recruit having missed it.

I don't know from the reporting if this isn't merely the same situation in the DoDSS schools.

 

[durangodawood]

Gish gallop? This is all information about the same point. With actual quotes. It doesn't have you bouncing around from one topic to another as a gish gallop would do. Each link is an additional confirmation of what has been explained to you. I can give you plenty more if you'd like. But if you choose to ignore the evidence then I'll not waste any more of my time. Actually, on second thoughts, this won't take any of your time. Try the following links from a government web page on census data. The links refer to gender.

Unbinding the Ties: Edit Effects of Marital Status on Same Sex Couples

Assesses current Census Bureau edit procedures for marital status and household relationship among same sex couples.

www.census.gov

https://www.census.gov/topics/population/sexual-orientation-gender-identity/about.html

https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2021/08/household-pulse-survey-updates-sex-question-now-asks-sexual-orientation-and-gender-identity.html

Get a 404 message? Yeah, you bet you did. The pages have been down because the US government doesn't believe in gender. Talk about it has been banned. How much more confirmation do you need?

Facts are a gish gallop.

Attitude, wit, and snark is what counts. Thats why I do so well here!

 

[Chesterton]

Gish gallop? This is all information about the same point. With actual quotes. It doesn't have you bouncing around from one topic to another as a gish gallop would do. Each link is an additional confirmation of what has been explained to you. I can give you plenty more if you'd like. But if you choose to ignore the evidence then I'll not waste any more of my time. Actually, on second thoughts, this won't take any of your time. Try the following links from a government web page on census data. The links refer to gender.

Unbinding the Ties: Edit Effects of Marital Status on Same Sex Couples

Assesses current Census Bureau edit procedures for marital status and household relationship among same sex couples.

www.census.gov

https://www.census.gov/topics/population/sexual-orientation-gender-identity/about.html

https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2021/08/household-pulse-survey-updates-sex-question-now-asks-sexual-orientation-and-gender-identity.html

Get a 404 message? Yeah, you bet you did. The pages have been down because the US government doesn't believe in gender. Talk about it has been banned. How much more confirmation do you need?

Okay, I'll pick one thing out. You posted one link which referenced "rolling back protections for transgender people". Yet when I read the link, there is not one thing actually about "rolling back" (whatever that means) "protections" (whatever that means).

 

[Bradskii]

Well, again, I think there is some malicious compliance going on.

Or...Critical Race Theory and Critical Gender Theory ideology has been worked more deeply into the curriculum than I realize.

As an example in another area where the same things are happening, I got bamboozled for a short time when it was reported that the Air Force suddenly had removed the Tuskegee Airmen from its Air Force Basic Training curriculum, ostensibly because this same Executive Order. As it turned out, the Air Force had delayed teaching that block of training for a couple of weeks to make sure it conformed to the new guidelines, then the training was put back into the program with no recruit having missed it.

I don't know from the reporting if this isn't merely the same situation in the DoDSS schools.

This is more specific. All mention of gender, unless it refers specifically to male and female are now verboten.

 

[Bradskii]

Okay, I'll pick one thing out. You posted one link which referenced "rolling back protections for transgender people". Yet when I read the link, there is not one thing actually about "rolling back" (whatever that means) "protections" (whatever that means).

I gave you three links. There were very many more. None of them work. They have all been closed because the pages discuss gender matters. That is not now allowed in this administration. You can't even discuss gender matters. I mean, how much more proof do you actually need?

Welcome to the new world.

 

[rebornfree]

Yes, I think it is just you in this case.

It is a story.

It is a story about kids that are mean to a little red-headed girl with freckles and how she deals with that.

The kids that are mean to her call her "Freckleface Strawberry". Thus, that is the name of the book. Yes, it is demeaning. It is the insult the mean kids call the little girl in the book. As a kid I had red hair and freckles and was teased a lot so I can relate a bit.

Tell you what - you (and everyone else) can actually watch a you-tube of someone reading the book. The video even shows all the pages and illustrations in the book, and decide for yourself.

Thanks for posting the video. I see nothing about gender in this at all. Kids can feel different for all sorts of reasons. I did because I was adopted; others might because they are in a new country or a racial minority or have a disability. I think it is a great message to show that we can be accepted for who we are.

The language issue is significant. Most European languages are gendered. In almost all of those dogs have a masculine gender and cats feminine gender. Even in English ships are female.

Yes, I wondered, when all this gendered identity rhetoric started, what the French would do with their "la" and "le" etc. Perhaps all their nouns could identify as gender neutral. It would make learning the language much easier.

Oh sure, England is absolutely infested with crocodiles. There were three at the bus stop the other day waiting for the number 22 to Wellington. I think they were going shopping to get some boots.

ROFL! Well they haven't migrated to us in the Manchester area yet, but perhaps they couldn't manage to change trains at Bristol, Temple Meads!

 

[Chesterton]

I gave you three links. There were very many more. None of them work. They have all been closed because the pages discuss gender matters. That is not now allowed in this administration. You can't even discuss gender matters. I mean, how much more proof do you actually need?

Welcome to the new world.

No, you gave me five links, and then three more, which is evidence enough of Gish galloping. Then when I did you the courtesy of responding to one point you made with one link, lo and behold, you've avoided addressing what I said.

 

[Bradskii]

No, you gave me five links, and then three more, which is evidence enough of Gish galloping. Then when I did you the courtesy of responding to one point you made with one link, lo and behold, you've avoided addressing what I said.

Every single link I have given you, prior to the three that don't work, have been to sites from where I got the quotes from which I posted. I am doing you the courtesy of showing you that I'm not simply making all this up. I am showing you that there are web pages which each confirm the point I am making. Every quote I have given you and every link which shows where those quotes come from have been irrefutable evidence of that point.

The three links that don't work are likewise irrefutable evidence that Trump has ordered that all government sites that even mention gender identity must be taken down. Irrefutable evidence because those sites have been closed. The links do not work. And only the ones that reference gender identity have been taken down.

This cannot be made any clearer. Trump has said what he wants done regarding gender ideology. The White House has said it. The departments that have been affected have reported on it. The sites that referenced it have been shut down. Literally nobody is denying this. They are, in fact, spending a lot of time saying 'Hey, look what we did!'

Saying that it hasn't happened is just perverse...