Tom Homan Fires Back at Pope Francis for Calling Mass Deportations a ‘Disgrace’

[chevyontheriver]

The decline in attendance at Catholic churches has been impacted by child abuse cases that were concealed by the Church for a century. The influence of progressivism on this trend is minimal.

How about the more precipitous declines in PCUSA, ELC, TEC, and the UM?

 

[RileyG]

Roman Catholicism and The Orthodox hold many traditions that are non-biblical, I will mention a few and spare myself from going into great detail

Many of these can also be found in many circles in professing Christianity

1.) "Easter", this is a tradition of men found in the "fertility rites of paganism" that predates the birth of Jesus and the cross of calvary

2.) "Christmas" birth of Jesus, this is a tradition of men found in paganism's celebrating the winter solstice and rebirth of the sun, it also predates the birth of Jesus Christ and the cross of calvary

Colossians 2:8KJV
8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

No. You are mistaken. Christmas literally means “Christ’s Mass” and Easter in every other language is called “pascha.” There is NOTHING pagan about either one.

 

[RileyG]

The decline in attendance at Catholic churches has been impacted by child abuse cases that were concealed by the Church for a century. The influence of progressivism on this trend is minimal.

You do realize child also occurs in Protestant sects? Saying it only occurs in the RCC is not being honest.

 

[RileyG]

The progressive religious communities are facing extinction. Kind of like the progressive Protestant denominations. Another pope like pope Francis and Catholics can ask if the whole Church will go extinct.

Absolutely!

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

How about the more precipitous declines in PCUSA, ELC, TEC, and the UM?

Many churches in the western hemisphere are experiencing a decline in membership, as an increasing number of citizens in the West are becoming disenchanted with the church and identifying as non-believers.

In contrast, regions such as Asia, Africa, and South America are experiencing growth in Christianity. Despite persecution by certain groups or government , more individuals are accepting Christ and joining churches (Catholic and Protestant).

The issue with western churches isn't liberalism or woke culture, as these exist in Asia and other regions where Christianity thrives despite persecution and death. Yet, it does not flourish in the West.

Based on my experience traveling to various countries, it is evident that churches in Asia, Africa, and Latin America thrive because Christians place their faith in God rather than attributing blame to the government, or Muslim or Hindus or communism. Christians see those Muslims, Hindus, atheist who persecute them as an opportunity to spread the gospel and convert them to Christ.

In contrast, many churches in the West, especially in the US, require armed deacons for protection during Sunday morning services, because they would rather trust church elder with guns to protect them then trusting God for their safety. They tend to view atheists, liberals, and homosexuals as enemies rather than showing love and spreading the gospel to them. Some Christians in the West focus on their right to choose whom they bake cakes for, rather than emphasizing efforts to evangelize to unbeliever.

Christians in the West often prioritize banning abortion over preaching the gospel. in America 55% of those who had abortions identify as Catholic or Protestant and claim to go to church weekly. Perhaps American churches should emphasize the sanctity of life more consistently on Sunday morning sermon then on election day.

And you wonder why Christianity (Catholic and Protestant)) is declining in the west?

 

[Truth7t7]

And just because some one don’t support women behind pulpits, condones same sex marriage in homosexuality, condones transgenderism doesn’t make them “good Christian”.


Matthew 7:22-27 “22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’

24 “Therefore everyone who hears these words of mine and puts them into practice is like a wise man who built his house on the rock. 25 The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house; yet it did not fall, because it had its foundation on the rock. 26 But everyone who hears these words of mine and does not put them into practice is like a foolish man who built his house on sand. 27 The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell with a great crash.”

The thought is there isn't such a thing as a progressive liberal Christian it's that simple, no need to run around the bush again and again

The term "progressive liberal" will continue to be used in Christian circles regardless of those who desire to see it disappear

Jesus Is The Lord

 

[Truth7t7]

No. You are mistaken. Christmas literally means “Christ’s Mass” and Easter in every other language is called “pascha.” There is NOTHING pagan about either one.

I Disagree, the foundations of Easter and Christmas pre-date Christianity and were brought into the church having no biblical foundation for observance (Traditions Of Men) my last response on the issue

 

[Truth7t7]

The issue with western churches isn't liberalism or woke culture

I was questioned on using the words "woke agenda" only to see the use of "woke culture"?

 

[RileyG]

I Disagree, the foundations of Easter and Christmas pre-date Christianity and were brought into the church having no biblical foundation for observance (Traditions Of Men) my last response on the issue

No. Not even close. That is just anti-Christian (anti-Catholic) propaganda, they ignore history.

 

[Valletta]

Roman Catholicism and The Orthodox hold many traditions that are non-biblical, I will mention a few and spare myself from going into great detail

Many of these can also be found in many circles in professing Christianity

1.) "Easter", this is a tradition of men found in the "fertility rites of paganism" that predates the birth of Jesus and the cross of calvary

2.) "Christmas" birth of Jesus, this is a tradition of men found in paganism's celebrating the winter solstice and rebirth of the sun, it also predates the birth of Jesus Christ and the cross of calvary

Colossians 2:8KJV
8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

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The decline in attendance at Catholic churches has been impacted by child abuse cases that were concealed by the Church for a century. The influence of progressivism on this trend is minimal.

So too sexual abuse has impacted attendance at Protestant churches. But the striking mass attendance decline for Catholics started in the 1960s with the cultural revolution. The abuse scandal wasn't revealed until the 1990s. The radicals of the 1960s are not far removed from today's progressives.

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

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So too sexual abuse has impacted attendance at Protestant churches. But the striking mass attendance decline for Catholics started in the 1960s with the cultural revolution. The abuse scandal wasn't revealed until the 1990s. The radicals of the 1960s are not far removed from today's progressives.

How many Christians or Catholics tried to bring radicals back to the church? How many priests and faithful Christians reached out to progressive sinners to preach the Gospel?



The Parable of the Lost Sheep
15 Now the tax collectors and sinners were all gathering around to hear Jesus. 2 But the Pharisees and the teachers of the law muttered, “This man welcomes sinners and eats with them.”
3 Then Jesus told them this parable: 4 “Suppose one of you has a hundred sheep and loses one of them. Doesn’t he leave the ninety-nine in the open country and go after the lost sheep until he finds it? 5 And when he finds it, he joyfully puts it on his shoulders 6 and goes home. Then he calls his friends and neighbors together and says, ‘Rejoice with me; I have found my lost sheep.’ 7 I tell you that in the same way there will be more rejoicing in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who do not need to repent.

The Parable of the Lost Coin

8 “Or suppose a woman has ten silver coins[a] and loses one. Doesn’t she light a lamp, sweep the house and search carefully until she finds it? 9 And when she finds it, she calls her friends and neighbors together and says, ‘Rejoice with me; I have found my lost coin.’ 10 In the same way, I tell you, there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents.”

 

[Truth7t7]

How many priests and faithful Christians reached out to progressive sinners to preach the Gospel?

Many progressive liberals that I know and come in contact with don't want to hear the gospel of salvation, their interest are taking part in phony religious exercises where practicing lesbians are behind pulpits and rainbow flags are flying everywhere proclaiming they represent God "Wrong"!

Jesus Is The Lord

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

Many progressive liberals that I know and come in contact with don't want to hear the gospel of salvation, their interest are taking part in phony religious exercises where practicing lesbians are behind pulpits and rainbow flags are flying everywhere proclaiming they represent God "Wrong"!

Jesus Is The Lord

Every unbelievers reject the message of salvation, just as they did two thousand years ago. Only the Holy Spirit can open their hearts to accept it. Therefore, praying for the unsaved is crucial.

Christianity in the West is not declining due to the progressive movement. It is declining because some Christians believe liberals are unlikely to return to Christianity, so they see no reason to evangelize to them or pray for them.

Early Christians preached the Gospel to those who persecuted them for entertainment. In the East, Christians are sharing their faith and spreading their message to those who want to kill them.

However, some Christians in the West feel hesitant to share the gospel due to the presence of rainbow flags.

 

[Truth7t7]

Every unbelievers reject the message of salvation, just as they did two thousand years ago. Only the Holy Spirit can open their hearts to accept it. Therefore, praying for the unsaved is crucial.

Christianity in the West is not declining due to the progressive movement. It is declining because some Christians believe liberals are unlikely to return to Christianity, so they see no reason to evangelize to them or pray for them.

Early Christians preached the Gospel to those who persecuted them for entertainment. In the East, Christians are sharing their faith and spreading their message to those who want to kill them.

However, some Christians in the West feel hesitant to share the gospel due to the presence of rainbow flags.

It's my opinion your many claims regarding Christians sharing the gospel are false

Would I go to stand infront of a rainbow flag adorned building with a practicing lesbian behind a pulpit only to have the police called for handing out tracts or preaching from the bible?

Jesus warned his followers below concerning such a situation

Matthew 7:6KJV
6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

It's my opinion your many claims regarding Christians sharing the gospel are false

Would I go to stand infront of a rainbow flag adorned building with a practicing lesbian behind a pulpit only to have the police called for handing out tracts or preaching from the bible?

Jesus warned his followers below concerning such a situation

Matthew 7:6KJV
6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

If you believe Christians in the West are sharing the gospel, it is clearly not effective because Christianity is declining in the West.

“Would I go to stand infront of a rainbow flag adorned building with a practicing lesbian behind a pulpit only to have the police called for handing out tracts or preaching from the bible?”

The answer is YES.

Our church support missionaries in China and Burma who face imprisonment for distributing tracts. I am aware of a local pastor in India who faces daily threats to his life and his family for sharing the gospel with Hindu students.

 

[BPPLEE]

Every unbelievers reject the message of salvation, just as they did two thousand years ago. Only the Holy Spirit can open their hearts to accept it. Therefore, praying for the unsaved is crucial.

Christianity in the West is not declining due to the progressive movement. It is declining because some Christians believe liberals are unlikely to return to Christianity, so they see no reason to evangelize to them or pray for them.

Early Christians preached the Gospel to those who persecuted them for entertainment. In the East, Christians are sharing their faith and spreading their message to those who want to kill them.

However, some Christians in the West feel hesitant to share the gospel due to the presence of rainbow flags.

You should sow in good ground.
The wheat won't grow in bad soil so you should be careful where you plant

 

[Truth7t7]

If you believe Christians in the West are sharing the gospel, it is clearly not effective because Christianity is declining in the West.

“Would I go to stand infront of a rainbow flag adorned building with a practicing lesbian behind a pulpit only to have the police called for handing out tracts or preaching from the bible?”

The answer is YES.

Our church support missionaries in China and Burma who face imprisonment for distributing tracts. I am aware of a local pastor in India who faces daily threats to his life and his family for sharing the gospel with Hindu students.

The written subject isn't about China, Burma, or Hindu Students, Once Again I Will Follow The Instruction Of Jesus Below

Would I go to stand infront of a rainbow flag adorned building with a practicing lesbian behind a pulpit only to have the police called for handing out tracts or preaching from the bible?

Jesus warned his followers below concerning such a situation

Matthew 7:6KJV
6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

 

[Truth7t7]

You should sow in good ground.
The wheat won't grow in bad soil so you should be careful where you plant

That's correct, don't cast your pearls before swine (Bad Soil), simple and clear

Matthew 7:6KJV
6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

 

[Truth7t7]

If you believe Christians in the West are sharing the gospel, it is clearly not effective because Christianity is declining in the West.

The gospel will be preaching all the world, God's words below will be fulfilled

Matthew 24:12-14KJV
12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

Matthew 7:13-14KJV
13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

 

[seeking.IAM]

Just an observation: I remember the controversy when John Kennedy ran for office that would see him become the first Catholic president of the U.S. Many were aghast fearing that the pope would be the de facto leader of the U.S. and President Kennedy a mere puppet of the papacy. I reckon that ship has sailed.