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Fossil Challenge for Evolutionists

Jimmy D

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Anyway, I'm only interested in that proof, and have given you every opportunity to produce it but if you get to the point you think you can provide that, please do me a favor and start a thread.

Struggling to remember 2016 Kenneth?

The evidence for evolution for Kenny'sID thread

"I don't and never will accept your evidence as reason to believe evolution is a fact. " - Kenny'sID

The only thing you appear to be interested in is trying to provoke a reaction.
 
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but i indeed studied the arguments that was made by evolutionists, so i do know what im talking about. do you have an experiment that we can see for instance a creature evolving into something else and not just variation of the same creature?
So you are already aware of what evolutionary changes have been observed in labs? Why are you asking me then? You also aren’t using the language of a scientist, which makes me think you haven’t actually studied the science. “Creature” isn’t a scientific term.
 
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Very mysterious post.

1. How did you post to me without using my name?
(at least visibly)

2. What does "nm" mean?

3. Did you always wear those dark glasses?
1. I had posted quoting you. I edited the post to basically empty since I hadn't read further interactions. Apparently, me deleting the post doesn't undo the notification you received.
2. It means "never mind".
3. Always. ;)
 
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Jimmy D

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Oh yeah?
And am I supposed to be trying to make a Christian out of you??!!

Well, I was one once, a long time ago, so you never know, there could be hope for me yet.

(To be fair, I'm more agnostic than atheist, but I filled in my profile rather hastily and changing it seems more trouble than it's worth).

(I don't see this as a "war" against atheists and believers....)

Nor do I. The majority of Christians have no problem with evolution as far as I know.

Actually, you want to know what WOULD give me a problem with Christianity and make me stop believing in Jesus as God?

The resurrection. If that didn't happen...it's bitter cabbage...as they say in Italy.

I don't see how anyone's going to disprove that without a time machine.... so no cabbage for you!
 
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but i indeed studied the arguments that was made by evolutionists, so i do know what im talking about. do you have an experiment that we can see for instance a creature evolving into something else and not just variation of the same creature?
If you had studied the arguments and understood them, you'd know that it is populations that evolve. You should know this anyway, because we've told you often enough.

We've also told you that no individual ever evolves into 'something else' and no individual produces offspring of a different species.

If you find this strange or confusing, you haven't understood how evolution works. It's an accumulation of changes in a population over many generations.
 
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GodsGrace101 said:
Actually, you want to know what WOULD give me a problem with Christianity and make me stop believing in Jesus as God?

The resurrection. If that didn't happen...it's bitter cabbage...as they say in Italy.
I don't see how anyone's going to disprove that without a time machine.... so no cabbage for you!
Having said that, there are plausible explanations for those reported observations that don't involve literal resurrection or supernatural events.

Just sayin'.
 
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If you had studied the arguments and understood them, you'd know that it is populations that evolve. You should know this anyway, because we've told you often enough.

We've also told you that no individual ever evolves into 'something else' and no individual produces offspring of a different species.

If you find this strange or confusing, you haven't understood how evolution works. It's an accumulation of changes in a population over many generations.

Yea, but what about those self replecting cars?
 
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Yea, but what about those self replecting cars?
I'd like to know how they reproduce and where we can find breeding populations of them...

Maybe one could use selective breeding to produce a comfortable, efficient, attractive, cheap, easy to drive supercar ;)
 
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I'd like to know how they reproduce and where we can find breeding populations of them...

Maybe one could use selective breeding to produce a comfortable, efficient, attractive, cheap, easy to drive supercar ;)
I'll take one of these:

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Well, I was one once, a long time ago, so you never know, there could be hope for me yet.

(To be fair, I'm more agnostic than atheist, but I filled in my profile rather hastily and changing it seems more trouble than it's worth).

Nor do I. The majority of Christians have no problem with evolution as far as I know.

I don't see how anyone's going to disprove that without a time machine.... so no cabbage for you!
Not to change the subject (;))
but I do hope you realize that faith does not depend on Jesus, but on the Apostles. Were they telling the truth or not???

End of sermon....
 
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be specific. are you talking about something like a cat evolving into a dog or an ape evolving into human, or just variation of the same creature?

Do you think that something like Dryopithecus, Kenyapithecus, Ouranopithecus or Sahelanthropus evolving into a chimpanzee would be an example of evolution, or would it be just variation of the same creature since all of them are apes?
 
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So you are already aware of what evolutionary changes have been observed in labs? Why are you asking me then?

depend on what you call "evolution". if you consider any variation as evolution then we both agree that we can see evolution in action. but evolution also suppose to involve complex traits or changes at the family level. and the evidence for this is lacking.


You also aren’t using the language of a scientist, which makes me think you haven’t actually studied the science. “Creature” isn’t a scientific term.

so call it evolution at the a family level (in general) if you want the scientific term.
 
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Do you think that something like Dryopithecus, Kenyapithecus, Ouranopithecus or Sahelanthropus evolving into a chimpanzee would be an example of evolution, or would it be just variation of the same creature since all of them are apes?
depend on their unique traits. if one of these species evolve a new complex trait (such as new organ) then it will be evidence for evolution.
 
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depend on what you call "evolution".
Evolution is the change in the heritable characteristics of biological populations over successive generations.

...so call it evolution at the a family level (in general) if you want the scientific term.
Evolution occurs at the population level in whatever family the species belongs to. No population or species changes family (unless they've been wrongly classified ;)).
 
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