My Layer Challenge

[River Jordan]

You're literally making up your own reality and then gaslighting everyone who questions it. It's just not productive or valuable.

It's also not reflective of Christians overall.

 

[AV1611VET]

It's also not reflective of Christians overall.

Because it answers tough questions that skeptics ask?

 

[River Jordan]

Because it answers tough questions that skeptics ask?

No, because it's what we've been pointing out for a while now. Some of the beliefs you post here are your own personal views and aren't shared by most Christians.

 

[AV1611VET]

No, because it's what we've been pointing out for a while now. Some of the beliefs you post here are your own personal views and aren't shared by most Christians.

I get your views, you get mine.

What's your point?

Even scientists argue over which views they have.

 

[River Jordan]

I get your views, you get mine.

What's your point?

Even scientists argue over which views they have.

Just making sure people here don't get the impression that some of the beliefs you post are reflective of most Christians.

 

[AV1611VET]

Just making sure people here don't get the impression that some of the beliefs you post are reflective of most Christians.

I think that's a little unfair, in light of the fact that I try and try to get even my brothers and sisters in Christ to tell me what they think, and they won't.

I assume it's because they don't have an answer; or ever even thought of one.

Case in point -- let's test you and see how you do.

Here's my question to you:

I say Adam spoke Jacobean English, and I've even used Scripture to support my belief.

My question to you is ...

Genesis 11:1 And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech.

... what SPECIFICALLY is that language?

Now you can answer with:

1. I don't know.
2. It was Hebrew.
3. It was Swahili.
4. We won't know until we get to Heaven.
5. etc

But until we do know for sure, I'm proposing Jacobean English.

And if no one on earth agrees with me, fine.

That's their prerogative.

But don't throw that at me, thinking you're making some point against my uniqueness.

But go ahead.

Tell me what SPECIFIC language you think it is, or at least give me credit for daring to speculate.

 

[River Jordan]

I think that's a little unfair, in light of the fact that I try and try to get even my brothers and sisters in Christ to tell me what they think, and they won't.

I assume it's because they don't have an answer; or ever even thought of one.

Case in point -- let's test you and see how you do.

Here's my question to you:

I say Adam spoke Jacobean English, and I've even used Scripture to support my belief.

My question to you is ...

Genesis 11:1 And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech.

... what SPECIFICALLY is that language?

Now you can answer with:

1. I don't know.
2. It was Hebrew.
3. It was Swahili.
4. We won't know until we get to Heaven.
5. etc

But until we do know for sure, I'm proposing Jacobean English.

And if no one on earth agrees with me, fine.

That's their prerogative.

But don't throw that at me, thinking you're making some point against my uniqueness.

But go ahead.

Tell me what SPECIFIC language you think it is, or at least give me credit for daring to speculate.

Don't get me wrong here. You can speculate all you like, just as long as people understand that's what you're doing and your speculations are probably unique to you.

For the Tower of Babel, I don't read it as literal history.

 

[AV1611VET]

Don't get me wrong here. You can speculate all you like, just as long as people understand that's what you're doing and your speculations are probably unique to you.

I'm sure, if you can tell, they can tell also that my speculations are unique.

Certainly you're not under the impression they are required to believe them, are you?

For the Tower of Babel, I don't read it as literal history.

I do though.

In your opinion, is that something I made up?

You've never heard anyone ever say that they believe the tower of Babel incident is literal?

Do you know, that in Dispensation Theology, the tower of Babel incident is the judgement of God upon mankind that ended the dispensation of Human Government?

Each dispensation starts out with a requirement of God upon mankind, and ends with God judging mankind for failure to meet that requirement.

There are seven of them.

Here they are:

1. Innocence -- ended at the expulsion of Adam & Eve from the Garden.
2. Conscience -- ended at the Flood.
3. Human Government -- ended at the tower of Babel.
4. Promise -- ended at the Egyptian captivity.
5. Law -- ended at the Cross.
6. Grace -- ends at the Tribulation.
7. Kingdom -- ends at the Great White Throne Judgement.

In your opinion, did I make this up?

 

[River Jordan]

I'm sure, if you can tell, they can tell also that my speculations are unique.

Certainly you're not under the impression they are required to believe them, are you?

Required? No.

I do though.

In your opinion, is that something I made up?

The story itself? Of course not.

That it's literal history? No, it's more accurately described as an interpretation more than something made up.

You've never heard anyone ever say that they believe the tower of Babel incident is literal?

Of course I have.

Do you know, that in Dispensation Theology, the tower of Babel incident is the judgement of God upon mankind that ended the dispensation of Human Government?

Each dispensation starts out with a requirement of God upon mankind, and ends with God judging mankind for failure to meet that requirement.

There are seven of them.

Here they are:

1. Innocence -- ended at the expulsion of Adam & Eve from the Garden.
2. Conscience -- ended at the Flood.
3. Human Government -- ended at the tower of Babel.
4. Promise -- ended at the Egyptian captivity.
5. Law -- ended at the Cross.
6. Grace -- ends at the Tribulation.
7. Kingdom -- ends at the Great White Throne Judgement.

In your opinion, did I make this up?

No and I never said you did. My comment in this thread was about your belief that God "jumbled up the creation events", which thankfully you characterized as your personal thoughts.

 

[Kylie]

Maybe if you had those slogans and sound bites too, you would understand what I mean when I say I think God "jumbled up" the order of His creation to make it stand out more in the end times?

What you don't seem to understand is that slogans and soundbites are not automatically true.

If you want to show that something is true, you need to provide evidence. You have been utterly incapable of doing that.

 

[AV1611VET]

If you want to show that something is true, you need to provide evidence. You have been utterly incapable of doing that.

If you don't know what I'm talking about, how can I convince you it's true?

 

[Kylie]

If you don't know what I'm talking about, how can I convince you it's true?

Well, once upon a time, I didn't know anything about algebra, and yet my math teacher convinced me that it works.

Once upon a time, I didn't understand chemical reactions, yet my high school science teacher convinced me that we understood how they work.

If you're having trouble with doing the same for your particular claims, maybe it's the claims that are lacking.

 

[AV1611VET]

Well, once upon a time, I didn't know anything about algebra, and yet my math teacher convinced me that it works.

Once upon a time, I didn't understand chemical reactions, yet my high school science teacher convinced me that we understood how they work.

If you're having trouble with doing the same for your particular claims, maybe it's the claims that are lacking.

Learning is a two-way street.

 

[Kylie]

Learning is a two-way street.

Oh look, another soundbite/slogan.