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When people at a high school or college talk about a relationship, it means the same as fornication. Am I incorrect?
I remember it that way, as well. Amazing that my memory can go back that far!!:oldthumbsup:
 
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I put 'in relationship' as my status cos i mean 'in relationship' with Jesus and 'in relationship' with God.

I.e Jesus is my big bro and God is my heavenly Father.


I mean I am part of the church family body of Christ.

It isnt meant to mean im sleeping with somone who im not married to lol.
 
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I put 'in relationship' as my status cos i mean 'in relationship' with Jesus and 'in relationship' with God.

I.e Jesus is my big bro and God is my heavenly Father.


I mean I am part of the church family body of Christ.

It isnt meant to mean im sleeping with somone who im not married to lol.

Why do Christians use the term boyfriend and girlfriend, which clearly have connotations of fornication?
 
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Isn't in a relationship a synonym for fornication?
No, not at all.

Fornication is the act of sexual intercourse between 2 people who are not married.

Adultery is sexual intercourse between 2 or more people one of which is married.
 
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I'm talking about when people say "im in a relationship".
And? You have zero point here....

Someone who was betrothed (biblical) is not sexually intimate yet they are 100% in a relationship. In fact the ONLY reason a man could break the betrothal was if his betrothed was found to have engaged in fornication or adultery with another man. Yet he could not be physically intimate with his betrothed until the night of the wedding.
 
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And? You have zero point here....

Someone who was betrothed (biblical) is not sexually intimate yet they are 100% in a relationship. In fact the ONLY reason a man could break the betrothal was if his betrothed was found to have engaged in fornication or adultery with another man. Yet he could not be physically intimate with his betrothed until the night of the wedding.

Wasn't it a contract and not a ceremony in bible times?
 
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Wasn't it a contract and not a ceremony in bible times?

What does that have to do with your assertion?

A man who was betrothed was 100% in a relationship and 100% not physically intimate.

You are asserting that saying you are in a relationship is fornication and this is utterly untrue.

Fornication requires sexual intercourse and one can be in a relationship and NOT be sexually active with anyone.
 
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How do i cut this person off since I known her for years.

She did ask if she was still my friend and I found myself saying 'yes' but maybe I should have said NO.

And then said well you are friends with the world and a friend of the world is at enmity with Christ. But I didnt know what to say when she asks me point blank over the phone. Or maybe I should have turned the question on her and said I dont know are you friends with Jesus?
There seem to be a lot of variables to this question, far beyond how to combat a spirit of fornication or compromise. Do you have a Pastor? And let me be clear what I am asking, is do you have a man/woman of God who lives in holiness and does their best to instruct you in how to walk in a holy lifestyle since you've joined Team Jesus? The reason I ask, is God has a clear and set order for you to get all of these questions answered. It pleased God to establish a ministry for the sake of your soul. So while asking general questions, or sharing biblical truth on a forum seems appropriate in most cases, I feel like this is a "real" question, that you need "real" answers to. If you don't have a Pastor I would seek God to send someone to you.

I think one of the worse things Christians can say (in most cases!) is, "We aren't friends anymore, because I go to church now." That is so dismissive! But, it is important to come out from among the world and be separate, to save your own soul. What I have learned to do, is to show your old friend the goal that you have in mind. Let them know the change that you have experience and how that has changed your life. Then share with them, I am working to meet this goal, and if you have a different goal in mind that is perfectly okay, we are naturally going to seperate. Amos 3:3 asks how can two walk together, except they be agreed. If you are going right and I'm going left, eventually we can no longer hold hands! It's not because your mean, ugly, or nasty - I don't have any ill feelings towards you, its just you are going a different way than I am!

Sorry that post got soooooo long!
 
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There seem to be a lot of variables to this question, far beyond how to combat a spirit of fornication or compromise. Do you have a Pastor? And let me be clear what I am asking, is do you have a man/woman of God who lives in holiness and does their best to instruct you in how to walk in a holy lifestyle since you've joined Team Jesus? The reason I ask, is God has a clear and set order for you to get all of these questions answered. It pleased God to establish a ministry for the sake of your soul. So while asking general questions, or sharing biblical truth on a forum seems appropriate in most cases, I feel like this is a "real" question, that you need "real" answers to. If you don't have a Pastor I would seek God to send someone to you.

I think one of the worse things Christians can say (in most cases!) is, "We aren't friends anymore, because I go to church now." That is so dismissive! But, it is important to come out from among the world and be separate, to save your own soul. What I have learned to do, is to show your old friend the goal that you have in mind. Let them know the change that you have experience and how that has changed your life. Then share with them, I am working to meet this goal, and if you have a different goal in mind that is perfectly okay, we are naturally going to seperate. Amos 3:3 asks how can two walk together, except they be agreed. If you are going right and I'm going left, eventually we can no longer hold hands! It's not because your mean, ugly, or nasty - I don't have any ill feelings towards you, its just you are going a different way than I am!

Sorry that post got soooooo long!
well, my friend who I met at church (she goes to a different church now as she moved) who is elder than me and walked several years with the Lord has also met my other friend who I knew for more than 10 years but I have discussed this with her and she's helping me through it, with prayer and and what to do when she kinda drags me the other way.

So you could say she's looking out for me and being a kind of pastor. And of course am going to God with all this, my church pastor has never met my compromising friend in question as she's never actually been to that particular church. I think she used to go years ago to church and youth groups before I even met her.

We just meet up every so often its not like we see each other every day or even every month sometimes.
 
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No I wouldn't say 'i cant be friends with you cos I go to church now' lol.

But there must be a way of kind of extricating oneself from the world and the tricky thing is with some friends that are lukewarm in faith. With some who've expressed how much they dislike church or even don't care about Jesus you can kind of leave them and its not too much of a bother, but with some friends you kind of don't know which way they will go.
 
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Well funny thing is we've put off our day of meeting up (the lukewarm friend with my other stronger believing friend) as the weather wasn't looking too good and now what do you know its sunny again. ?!

I suggested we go swimming at the outdoor pools (not shopping!)

sorry this thread did get a bit off topic but it was the lukewarm friend that has the husband who kind of tried to come on to me.
 
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open your bible...all my questions on here are REAL questions its never a case that I make up questions just for the sake of it. I live a REAL life. Its not a hypothesis.

This is a christian advice forum not a debate forum where I think up all these tricky situations and get people to answer them to show off how much they know lol.
 
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I wonder how much of a light you could be to your lukewarm friend, by being on fire for Jesus! Instead of worrying about hurting her feelings, be real with her and upfront. Tell her how the activities that you do together are at odds with the direction you are wanting to head in your life. I'm not saying to be nasty and try to hurt her feelings, but be honest and understand that her feelings may be hurt. You might be the conviction she needs to change and come back! Or you might push her away, but if she ever decides to get out of her luke warm state she will know exactly where to come. A lot of people are just looking for that nudge, and who better to give it than an old friend. She is interested in hanging out with you for a reason... maybe this is that reason?!
 
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open your bible...all my questions on here are REAL questions its never a case that I make up questions just for the sake of it. I live a REAL life. Its not a hypothesis.

This is a christian advice forum not a debate forum where I think up all these tricky situations and get people to answer them to show off how much they know lol.
I didn't mean to offend you - what I meant by "real" was "heavy" or "serious".

I wasn't suggesting they were fake questions. Just some questions people need to hear what Bible says on the subject, and some questions need some deep conversations and some guidance from someone a lot closer to the problem than we can ever be on the forum.

I'm apologize if that was offensive, that surely was not my intent.
 
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