"Forcing a Teenager to have an Abortion"

[one love]

If you kill a child, it's safe to say you should feel guilty for it. Still, there is repentance and forgiveness.

Please stop refering to fetuses as children.

And whoever said that essay was "lame" should be ashamed!

I am agreeing with that person, it was lame to put the whole "Choose Pro-Life" at the end of the essay. Good parenting would have prevailed in this conflict for the better of both the parents and the girl.

 

[Lillithspeak]

Your mindless post shows you are plainly opposed to any opposition that would cause people to do the right thing. It's sad people are so stooped in sin and their hearts are so hard that the life of the unborn child means less to them than fulfilling their own sinful pleasures. It seems you would go to any length to make sure the voice of opposition is not heard.

Hardly mindless, and the voice of opposition was heard, so what's your complaint? That I posted the truth? It is an Essay and it was copywrited. Who copywrites things? People who don't work their work reproduced without compensation, there is no other reason to copywrite written work.

Your post shows that you can't listen to the truth without resorting to an unsubstantiated attack.

 

[Lillithspeak]

It wasn't made for profit. www.religoustolerance.com Isn't for making a profit.

Excuse me, but when the address ends with .com, that means commercial site, not non-for-profit. Not for profits end with .org. So how do you know it isn't for profit?

 

[Lillithspeak]

Today, medical practices are so good that almost no one would die from a pregnancy in the US. Any doctor that recommends one is just looking to make a buck.

Guess you never heard of high risk pregnancies, we have a whole practice at Dartmouth Hitchcock Memorial Hospital devoted to high-risk pregnancies and trust me, women do die from many different conditions related to pregnancies. The first criteria is age, teenagers are at the highest risk for pregnancy complications. Do some research before you make uninformed, sweeping statements.

 

[Lillithspeak]

I didn't mean for it to be an attack on abortion. I just wanted show the injustices of forced abortions. Abortion should be the choice of the potential parents, not of anyone else.

But who makes the decision for a youngster of 14? Who takes financial, child care, and all other responsibility for the baby? Does the boy drop of out school to become a full time dad? Does the mom? Do the girls parents, who both work to maintain their family, quit their jobs to stay home? If they do, who supports everyone else?

How marriageable is a young woman who has a child and was never married when she's say, 18-24? How many men in that age bracket want an instant family, to support some other guys kid? I suggest you ask a few, not too many will jump at the chance.

Give the baby up is usually what's suggested. What do you think a full term pregnancy is like for a 14 year old, not to mention child-birth? If the girl balks at an abortion, what makes you think she's going to look in the face of a living child and say, sure, take the baby away and give it to someone else? You think that's easier to do? To give up an actual child, not a group of cells? Right.

 

[Mylinkay Asdara]

I would be willing to assume there are more cases in which a girl could maintain a healthy pregnancy, have a safe childbirth, who wants to have the baby but her parents force her to abort then there are cases of girls who would die in childbirth but their parents refuse to let her have an abortion.

The ablility to birth a child is not equivilent to the ablitity to raise a child (especially if one is only a child themselves)

 

[Kelly]

Please stop refering to fetuses as children.

No. How about 'unborn child' instead? Not to get OT but when the recent rulings on partial birth abortions came out, I saw a CNN article that used the term fetus to describe a baby that was halfway out of the mother at the time of abortion. People use the word fetus to cloak the realities of the life that is being taken, it sounds more clinical.

 

[Vxer1000]

Hardly mindless, and the voice of opposition was heard, so what's your complaint? That I posted the truth? It is an Essay and it was copywrited. Who copywrites things? People who don't work their work reproduced without compensation, there is no other reason to copywrite written work.

Your post shows that you can't listen to the truth without resorting to an unsubstantiated attack.

So you assume the reason behind the article was profit? I think we all know what the word "assume" means. Kind of convenient for you to put your own twist on things in the hopes that someone will hear your bias.

 

[Vxer1000]

Please stop refering to fetuses as children.

I am agreeing with that person, it was lame to put the whole "Choose Pro-Life" at the end of the essay. Good parenting would have prevailed in this conflict for the better of both the parents and the girl.

If you think there is a difference between a fetus and a child you are deluded. They both feel pain. They both are alive. They both can be killed. One is easier to put out of your mind because you never saw it, or heard it cry.

 

[msjones21]

The ablility to birth a child is not equivilent to the ablitity to raise a child (especially if one is only a child themselves)

Nobody said she had to raise the child.

 

[Mylinkay Asdara]

Well, in her essay it seems that she would like to. I personally know 2 young girls trying to raise babies and it's not going well even with the support of one of the girls families. Giving up childhood yourselve while you raise a demanding baby while you adapt all your future plans is no mean feat.

 

[burrow_owl]

If you think there is a difference between a fetus and a child you are deluded. They both feel pain. They both are alive.

That's a pretty low standard of identity. By that reasoning, I could just as easily say "if vxer thinks he's any different than a frog, he's deluded. They both feel pain. They are both alive."

 

[Vxer1000]

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That's a pretty low standard of identity. By that reasoning, I could just as easily say "if vxer thinks he's any different than a frog, he's deluded. They both feel pain. They are both alive."

You left out part of my quote. Now, people will think you're smarter than me . And I think anyone with a 6th grade education could understand what I was getting at. Quit playing sematics.

 

[burrow_owl]

The present subject is the difference between you, a frog, an infant, and a zygote. This is nothing but semantics.

 

[Vxer1000]

The present subject is the difference between you, a frog, an infant, and a zygote. This is nothing but semantics.

Do you think it's the right thing to do to kill any of them whenever you see fit?

 

[Kelly]

The present subject is the difference between you, a frog, an infant, and a zygote. This is nothing but semantics.

It's was fairly clear in the post in question that we were talking about fetus vs. child. You are trying to use semantics to dodge the issue at hand.

 

[EvolvEarth]

Fetuses earlier than 28 weaks into pregnancy do not feel pain.

 

[gybefan]

Today, medical practices are so good that almost no one would die from a pregnancy in the US. Any doctor that recommends one is just looking to make a buck.

Have you got a cite for this claim?

 

[water_ripple]

I have several poems that are copyrighted, but I am not making any profit from them. The copyright means that legally noone else can claim the work as their own. If they do there are penalties they may have to face...not always are copyrighted materials used simply for profit..rather to send a message or touch another person. As it would seem to be the case for the essay.

I have a girlfriend who had a son when she had just turned 16. She got pregnant when she was 15, and her boyfriend went so far as to skip town to get out of paying child support. O but her life was not over..She finished high school, and is currently finishing up her teaching degree. Her child is the love of her life, and her personal relationship with another man is not dampered by the fact that she already has one child. She decided to rise above the gloom, and live with the adult choices she made as a teen. She could've went off and aborted the baby..instead that baby made her want to seek a better life...She did not run from her problems. She met them head on and took control over her circumstances. No it was not always easy for her, but she did not have time to worry about what she had lost..she had so very much to gain. She had to work for everything she has accomplished, and her meeting the goals she has set have paid off with confidence where before her self-esteem dragged.

The above is not to suggest that teens should be getting pregnant. It is to say that if one becomes pregnant at a completely inconvient time that a child is not the end of life, but more aptly the beginning of a new life. Rasing a child really is an adult responsibility, but making the choice to keep a child when one is a teen takes courage. If you are pregnant and a teen do not let society get you down. It is possible to further your life, and raise and love your child. People might tell you that your life is over..that is not the truth..life is only over when you give up.

 

[burrow_owl]

Do you think it's the right thing to do to kill any of them whenever you see fit?

Up to a certain point of development, yes (that point being the formation of sophisticated neural networks)