"Forcing a Teenager to have an Abortion"

[BigToe]

calm the hate guys... makes teaching people your point of view so they at least understand where you are coming from a bit more difficult.

 

[burrow_owl]

My friend had a baby before 28 weeks..It was obvious that the baby felt more than just lethargy.

Stimulus-response. An amoeba moves when you touch it, but that doesn't it means it 'feels' anything.

 

[water_ripple]

Stimulus-response. An amoeba moves when you touch it, but that doesn't it means it 'feels' anything.

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Sorry burrow_owl, but seeing that baby was beliving. And a baby is hardly comparable to an amoeba.

 

[msjones21]

Stimulus-response.

I suppose that's how people who support the unnecessary killing of unborn babies can sleep at night...with endless excuses and justifications and bottom line when it's all said and done a life has been taken. I hardly think that you can even begin to compare that life to an amoeba or a germ or a parasite.

Oh and let's be really honest here...in how many cases is the abortion a medical necessity as opposed to just being a way to sweep the "burden" of having an unwanted child under the rug?

 

[Lillithspeak]

So you assume the reason behind the article was profit? I think we all know what the word "assume" means. Kind of convenient for you to put your own twist on things in the hopes that someone will hear your bias.

Your word, not mine. Is that the best you could come up with? How about responding to post #25.

 

[Mylinkay Asdara]

It's not always just about the 'burden' of an unwanted child. People act like this is some dress someone bought and then they find out it doesn't fit so they're going to toss it away rather than find space in the closet for it. it's nothing like that.

Carrying, birthing, and then raising a child is a HUGE commitment. Does anyone remember being 14? 15? 16? what were you doing/thinking/feeling at those ages that makes you think that the majority of people that age are capable of making that sort of commitment?

 

[msjones21]

Carrying, birthing, and then raising a child is a HUGE commitment. Does anyone remember being 14? 15? 16? what were you doing/thinking/feeling at those ages that makes you think that the majority of people that age are capable of making that sort of commitment?

I realize that the initial point of this thread is to discuss forcing teens to abort; however, I feel compelled to throw in the fact that there is only a scant handful of abortions performed each year on girls under the age of 19. I believe it's only around 18%. Most abortions are performed on single women who were using contraception at the time they conceived who are between the ages of 20 and 32.

 

[draper]

How come? How can you even ask that? That's like saying installing a security system in your home and shooting anyone who comes on your property are one and the same. One is a preventative measure, the other is killing a human being.

They're both 'denying a child the chance to live'. Whether or not the kid is actually concieved is irrelevant, its still being denied the chance to live if a married couple aren't having sex.

 

[msjones21]

They're both 'denying a child the chance to live'

An egg and a sperm, separated from one another, are not living children. When joined, if given the chance and barring any unforeseen complications, the fertilized egg will grow into a baby.

Whether or not the kid is actually concieved is irrelevant, its still being denied the chance to live if a married couple aren't having sex.

You're completely grasping at straws to support legalized murder of babies who are being killed 9 times out of 10 for convenience sake. I know full and well you don't believe this corny comparison that a couple not having sex can be likened to abortion.

 

[burrow_owl]

When joined, if given the chance and barring any unforeseen complications, the fertilized egg will grow into a baby.

Only if numerous other conditions are met, none of which seem less onerous or arbitrary than the meeting of sperm and egg in the first place.

Let's face it: not having unprotected sex is murder.

 

[EvolvEarth]

My friend had a baby before 28 weeks..It was obvious that the baby felt more than just lethargy.

How so? It could be automatic reactions to the fact that it's no longer getting support from the mother and is starving. Starving and feeling pain are two different things.

 

[draper]

An egg and a sperm, separated from one another, are not living children. When joined, if given the chance and barring any unforeseen complications, the fertilized egg will grow into a baby.

Right. I'm not trying to say that seperated egg and sperm are living children, because they're not. But, by choosing not to have un protected sex, you're choosing to not give the egg and sperm a chance to join join, and hence denying a would be child a chance to live.

You're completely grasping at straws to support legalized murder of babies who are being killed 9 times out of 10 for convenience sake. I know full and well you don't believe this corny comparison that a couple not having sex can be likened to abortion.

A couple not having sex and an abortion are BOTH denying a child a chance to live.

And hwy do we all talk about murder like its some horrible thing? Granted, usually it is indeed a bad thing, but there can be times when murder is nessecary and good. I'm sure no one would complain if Saddam Hussein was murdered brutally and tortured.

Of course I'm not comparing aborted babies to Saddam Hussein, I'm just giving a case of where murder can be a good thing.

'You are supporting the legalization of murder.'

So? Murder's just something that is traditonally a bad thing, however sometimes it is nessecary.

Thanks.

 

[Ikaria]

Ten years ago this March, I became pregnant. Only 14 years old. My 15 year old boyfriend and I had only had sex three times when I got pregnant. I was very scared and did not know what to do.

You obviously didn't know what to do before you had sex, either.

Is it just me, or do our supposedly street-savvy teens suffer from terminal clulessness?

 

[Ikaria]

Surely you know there are countless 13 and 14 year old girls out there who are terrified when their parents take them to an abortion clinic and some doctor tells them to strip naked and they place a vaccuum hose up inside of her sucking out the baby she wanted to have but she had no say in the matter.

Why would this even be necessary? There is such a thing as a "morning after" pill, ya know.

Not every abortion is a gruesome photo-op for prolifers.

 

[Ikaria]

So you are for abortion before the 28 week point? Why? So you can go out and live permiscuously with no fear of the resposibility of caring for that which you willingly created? This is why the Democrats cater to people 30 years old and under. Irresponsible voters make good pawns. No slam on those under 30 that actually have a sense of responsibility.

If this is all of your ability to reason I wouldn't let you boil a pot of water.

Ad hominem + straw man = automatic destruction of one's own credibility.

 

[Ikaria]

You're completely grasping at straws to support legalized murder of babies who are being killed 9 times out of 10 for convenience sake.

Is it true that 9 out of 10 abortions are purely "for convenience' sake"? I'd like to know how you arrived at that figure.

Do you have a source?

 

[Ampmonster]

"wow, that's a lame article."

not as lame as some things.

 

[MsDe]

Abortion Statistics - Decision to Have an Abortion (U.S.)

• 25.5% of women deciding to have an abortion want to postpone childbearing
• 21.3% of women cannot afford a baby<
• 14.1% of women have a relationship issue or their partner does not want a child
• 12.2% of women are too young (their parents or others object to the pregnancy)
• 10.8% of women feel a child will disrupt their education or career
• 7.9% of women want no (more) children
• 3.3% of women have an abortion due to a risk to fetal health
• 2.8% of women have an abortion due to a risk to maternal health

View complete statistics and info here.

 

[Ampmonster]

"3.3% of women have an abortion due to a risk to fetal health
2.8% of women have an abortion due to a risk to maternal health"

AND YET that 90% of the prochoice argument. LMAO

 

[Ikaria]

Abortion Statistics - Decision to Have an Abortion (U.S.)

• 25.5% of women deciding to have an abortion want to postpone childbearing
• 21.3% of women cannot afford a baby<
• 14.1% of women have a relationship issue or their partner does not want a child
• 12.2% of women are too young (their parents or others object to the pregnancy)
• 10.8% of women feel a child will disrupt their education or career
• 7.9% of women want no (more) children
• 3.3% of women have an abortion due to a risk to fetal health
• 2.8% of women have an abortion due to a risk to maternal health

View complete statistics and info here.

Thanks!

Well, that nails the "9 out of 10 abortions are for convenience' sake" claim rather nicely, doesn't it?