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you know what I meant
Sure .. but I'm not at all sure you understand what myself and others mean about this .. You appear to reject before you show understanding .. maybe because you find that understanding unsatisfying, (or perhaps, too empty/shallow)?
 
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well we disagree
Ok .. I'm fascinated what you think might be the basis of disgreement there?

I'm willing to listen to your deeper thoughts.
I can see you don't warm to skepticism or atheism .. but I can put my own skepticism aside for a while and listen .. (I'm not an atheist, also .. but I'm unsure of where that leaves me as far as all those '-isms' go .. not that this worries me, mind you ... ;) )
 
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Ok … I'm fascinated what you think might be the basis of disagreement there?
I'm willing to listen to your deeper thoughts.

right view leads… in the right direction

wrong view leads… in the wrong direction

right view is to accept the afterlife


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right view leads… in the right direction

wrong view leads… in the wrong direction
Ok .. so, from that, it looks to me, that its left up to me to decide on what is the 'right' and, what is the 'wrong' view, yes?

But then, @JohnEmmett asserts which view is the 'right' view for me, no?:
JohnEmmett said:
right view is to accept the afterlife
What am I to do now?
:scratch:
 
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similar to walking on a road

another traveler is coming from the opposite direction

you say… you should turn around, etc.

some people will turn around, others not
Well I'm not surprised .. given that no-one seems to have a clue about which way is up and which is down there, no?
:scratch:
 
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Buddhism is not the best term


I just consider it the truth
Well that's fine with me .. what each of us means by: 'truth', is dependent on how each of us is thinking in the moment, (I think ;) )

PS: 'Humanist' isn't the right term for applying to me either .. we share perhaps a common issue there(?)
 
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Buddhist cosmology
Ok ... so the way they arrived at their cosmological conclusions (ie: the 'how') is all important there. What was the way?

Also, living 60,000 year lifespans, a lasting afterlife wouldn't be worth a whole lot, surely?
 
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What was the way?

Also, living 60,000 year lifespans, a lasting afterlife wouldn't be worth a whole lot, surely?

The afterlife is millions of years. Or more

The way this was known is the insight of enlightenment.

… the testimony of the Buddha.

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The afterlife is millions of years. Or more
Ok .. (I forgot that bit .. apologies )
JohnEmmett said:
The way this was known is the insight of enlightenment.
… the testimony of the Buddha.
Ok .. I'm kind of sympathetic(?) - meaning I tend to 'warm' to the idea of wisdom and the awakening of the intellect.
You see, its the way we arrive at conclusions that interests me.
 
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