For-u-ms ?!

[jad123]

I hereby refuse to feed trolls, snerts and other troublemakers of their ilk.

That is a good point. A troll like any other living thing will live when fed but without food will eventually die.

 

[HuntingMan]

Based on many of the main logos that have been showing up, Id hope that this thread finally dies at some point.
Its quite clear from everything Ive seen that Erwin was not attempting to turn this forum into some new age training ground simply by changing the domain.

Honestly, as much as the old domain has been built up, if it were me Id sell it for a bundle and use the money for some godly cause....who cares what domain this forum is at as long as it is used for some good for the cause of Christ?

And its pretty hard for ANYONE to be used for godly purposes if theyve shut out an unbelieving world.....

 

[HuntingMan]

Erwin, if you get around to reading this, I say GOOD JOB !

Ive been looking at all of the new logos and one thing really is made quite evident in seeing them...this was surely well thought out.
The different ways 'foru.ms' is used clearly shows that the intent was to further the cause of Christ here at these forums.

I think we all know that there are mainstream and nonmainstream christians here, as well as people from all other walks of life.
Our Lord Jesus did NOT sit only among those who believed in Him, but clearly was in the presence of those who rejected and derided Him.
So we are among those who believe and those who deride us here....our Lord would do the same.
If we want to congregate with other believers, there are forums here where that can be done and if unbelievers post there all we have to do is use the 'ignore' feature that has been made available to us all.

Thanks for the forums, Erwin and staff...and thanks for the great job on the new look and domain.

 

[Ave Maria]

I see nothing wrong with the forum name change. Anyway, its not as if it is even a moral issue so why this is posted in Christian Philosophy and Ethics I don't know. The forum is still a Christian forum and why people are making such a big deal out of this I don't know. I wish people would stop making such a big deal out of the forum name change.

 

[ReformedChapin]

I see nothing wrong with the forum name change. Anyway, its not as if it is even a moral issue so why this is posted in Christian Philosophy and Ethics I don't know. The forum is still a Christian forum and why people are making such a big deal out of this I don't know. I wish people would stop making such a big deal out of the forum name change.

Maybe because insted of this being a Christian forum it's now the relativism forum with a christian flavor to it.

 

[Nadiine]

Maybe because insted of this being a Christian forum it's now the relativism forum with a christian flavor to it.

BINGO. Thanks to the removal of the Creed/Preamble, Mormons, JW's, Unitarians, Universalists & Nontrinitarians are also being considered "Christians" if they just claim to be.

Welcome to the new age of compromise and toleration of false gospels

 

[Nadiine]

That is a good point. A troll like any other living thing will live when fed but without food will eventually die.

Yep - kinda like the concept of feeding the Spirit, and starving the flesh.

Feed your spirit more by renewing your mind to conform to Christ, and you won't compromise for the world.
Feed your sin nature/flesh and watch yourself siding with the world.

Colossians 2:8
See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception, according to the tradition of men, according to the elementary principles of the world, rather than according to Christ.

 

[HuntingMan]

BINGO. Thanks to the removal of the Creed/Preamble, Mormons, JW's, Unitarians, Universalists & Nontrinitarians are also being considered "Christians" if they just claim to be.

Welcome to the new age of compromise and toleration of false gospels

I hardly think that my faith is going to be affected, or yours for that matter, if things change on this forum.
I will still seek out like minded christians to fellowship with regardless of any changes made to the forum here.
I would think that you, and eveyrone else, will as well

 

[tulc]

Maybe because insted of this being a Christian forum it's now the relativism forum with a christian flavor to it.

...which you as mod will help support, correct?
tulc(just a thought)

 

[Nadiine]

I hardly think that my faith is going to be affected, or yours for that matter, if things change on this forum.

I'm really interested that you leap to think of "YOUR" faith that wont' get harmed, instead of your mind going towards the NONCHRISTIANS & baby Christians who have no clue about things of the bible who join up here in this "open" environment.
DO YOU CARE ABOUT HOW THEY WOULD BE LED TO ERROR that leads them AWAY From God & onto false paths and the harm that comes from it?

why did you only think of yourself?

I will still seek out like minded christians to fellowship with regardless of any changes made to the forum here.
I would think that you, and eveyrone else, will as well

again, it's all about YOU? Nevermind the poor ignorant saps that will be confused & get eaten alive by false teachers.
If you hadn't noticed, the happiest people on this site right now are the Atheists - commending Erwin on his fine choices.
Consider the sources.

It's a little bigger than a few Christians who know who they agree with & forming holy huddles.

 

[David Brider]

Maybe because insted of this being a Christian forum it's now the relativism forum with a christian flavor to it.

No, it's a forum where Christians and non-Christians can meet online for friendship, discussion and debate.

Which is what it's always been (or at least for the past three years or so), so the name change really does make precious little difference.

David.

 

[Nadiine]

No, it's a forum where Christians and non-Christians can meet online for friendship, discussion and debate.

Which is what it's always been (or at least for the past three years or so), so the name change really does make precious little difference.

David.

It has always been ... Protected by a Creed/Preamble to define "Christian".
With that gone, anyone signs up as "Christians" - so pretty soon it will be more publically known and you can watch the influx as Mormons & JW's & whoever else comes in with false gospels.

It HAS turned relative by removing any clarification of what Christianity is here. ie. FREE FOR [F]ALL.
Refusing to protect the unsaved and brand new Christians from this is sickening to me.

 

[ReformedChapin]

No, it's a forum where Christians and non-Christians can meet online for friendship, discussion and debate.

Which is what it's always been (or at least for the past three years or so), so the name change really does make precious little difference.

David.

Actually the name change shows where the values of this forum have gone. It went from being a Christian centered forum where biblical values where enforced to a postmodern forum where numbers are perffered.

The definition of Christian in foru.ms is completely subjective.

 

[David Brider]

It has always been ... Protected by a Creed/Preamble to define "Christian".
With that gone, anyone signs up as "Christians" - so pretty soon it will be more publically known and you can watch the influx as Mormons & JW's & whoever else comes in with false gospels.

It HAS turned relative by removing any clarification of what Christianity is here. ie. FREE FOR [F]ALL.
Refusing to protect the unsaved and brand new Christians from this is sickening to me.

Erwin has clarified the definition of what a Christian is here. What do you object to about it? In what way should the unsaved and brand new Christians be protected?

David.

 

[tulc]

again, it's all about YOU? Nevermind the poor ignorant saps that will be confused & get eaten alive by false teachers.
If you hadn't noticed, the happiest people on this site right now are the Atheists - commending Erwin on his fine choices.
Consider the sources.

Well this Christian (for over 30 years now) is also happy, so maybe you have misunderstood how people feel?
tulc(just a thought)

 

[Nadiine]

Erwin has clarified the definition of what a Christian is here. What do you object to about it? In what way should the unsaved and brand new Christians be protected?

David.

Well, according to what I read, it's open to Mormons, JW's & Unitarians in it's definition:

3. Non-Nicene Christian

These are members who identify themselves as Christian, but for any number of reason cannot accept all or part of the Nicene Creed, outside of the previously mentioned options. Examples of Non-Nicene churches are Unitarian, Latter-Day Saints (Mormon), Jehovah's Witnesses etc.

From this link:
http://foru.ms/showpost.php?p=38046141&postcount=1

 

[David Brider]

Actually the name change shows where the values of this forum have gone. It went from being a Christian centered forum where biblical values where enforced to a postmodern forum where numbers are perffered.

The definition of Christian in foru.ms is completely subjective.

Well, there's always going to be a degree of subjectivity about the definition of Christian, isn't there? I say I'm a Christian. You say you're a Christian. We both disagree quite extensively about what that means, certainly in terms of the values we subscribe to, but at the end of the day all we can do is accept that we're both sincerely following Christ to the best of our abilities. Personally, I think Erwin gets off to a great start by stating that:

A Christian, simply put, is a disciple of Jesus Christ:
Acts 11:26 (NIV) "The disciples were called Christians first in Antioch."

Sure, there's room for clarification - and Erwin has summed up the Biblical process for becoming a Christian, as well as the Nicene Creed (with caveats that not all Nicene Christians subscribe to every aspect of the Creed) - but the danger is we get bogged down in rules and regulations, instead of just living our faith.

And sure, it's going to mean that foru.ms is a place where we meet with a lot of people with whom we disagree, both Christians and non-Christians, but hey - isn't that just like life? What matters is that this place is a safe place for all.

David.

 

[David Brider]

Well, according to what I read, it's open to Mormons, JW's & Unitarians in it's definition:

Who have, given the inclusive nature of this site, always been entitled to be members, although not to post to the Christians-only sub-forums. So the only difference there is that (AIUI) the Christians-only section is open to a few non-Nicene Christians. Is that really such an issue?

David.

 

[ReformedChapin]

Well, there's always going to be a degree of subjectivity about the definition of Christian, isn't there? I say I'm a Christian. You say you're a Christian. We both disagree quite extensively about what that means, certainly in terms of the values we subscribe to, but at the end of the day all we can do is accept that we're both sincerely following Christ to the best of our abilities. Personally, I think Erwin gets off to a great start by stating that:



Sure, there's room for clarification - and Erwin has summed up the Biblical process for becoming a Christian, as well as the Nicene Creed (with caveats that not all Nicene Christians subscribe to every aspect of the Creed) - but the danger is we get bogged down in rules and regulations, instead of just living our faith.

And sure, it's going to mean that foru.ms is a place where we meet with a lot of people with whom we disagree, both Christians and non-Christians, but hey - isn't that just like life? What matters is that this place is a safe place for all.

David.

There is a degree of subjectivity, but not to the extent that this website takes it. Clearly the old definitions of the creeds such as the apostles creed and the nicean creed is not the same as 3 lines that Erwin posted.

 

[David Brider]

There is a degree of subjectivity, but not to the extent that this website takes it. Clearly the old definitions of the creeds such as the apostles creed and the nicean creed is not the same as 3 lines that Erwin posted.

Erwin's posted a lot more than just three lines.

David.