Food storage

Goodbook · Sep 7, 2015

Tomatoes are best stored in glass as the acid in them reacts with the metal and plastic.
Glass is an inert substance.

Or you can have sun dried tomatoes and then make a paste from them when you want to use them.

Powdered milk is fine way to preserve milk.

Eryk · Sep 7, 2015

An easy way to store food is to have a nutritionally complete meal replacement like Soylent or Super Body Fuel. I use one of these products as my main source of food and I try to have an extra month's supply on hand.

Fireinfolding · Sep 7, 2015

Eryk said:
An easy way to store food is to have a nutritionally complete meal replacement like Soylent or Super Body Fuel. I use one of these products as my main source of food and I try to have an extra month's supply on hand.

I have a couple of favorites Elite gourmet cookies and cream put up. I think it is a great idea. I had been bugging my husband since he weight lifts and drinks these protien powders for a couple of his meals during the day to buy an extra one here or there and so once a month I can add one of these in.

That isnt going to happen, but yeah I thought getting your protien in powdered form the way he eats it would work. How many meals can you get into a half a gallon mason jar?

And you dont really have to go with a brand, make your own, they have various meals replacement recipes online, some on youtube even. You can save even more making your own, even by purchasing the protien basis, whether whey isolate and/or egg white powder, even peanut butter powder online to make your own.

Getting them in bulk

The eggwhite's are even sold out there (and the peanut butter is on sale). A lot of body builders are making their own these days because its expensive to buy it and they know you can control more of what goes into your meal replacement by making it themselves.

Its a great idea

Goodbook · Sep 8, 2015

I dont think i like those meal replacements. Also they are quite expensive.
I didnt even like formula as a baby.

Goodbook · Sep 8, 2015

Beware that some milk powders are tainted if not making your own. This happened in China.
They adulterate a lot of foodstuffs there.

I would prefer fresh manna myself.

Also the whole idea of storing heaps of food puts me off if its only just powdered and packet food like those pringles chips which are mushed up potatoes with lots of arrtificial flavours. I wouldnt call that food even. It may last forever but You cant live off junk.

Fireinfolding · Sep 8, 2015

Here is the top 10 least expensive protien sources

http://darebee.com/nutrition/top-affordable-protein-sources.html

Most in the meal replacement recipes are among the top ten.

Fireinfolding · Sep 8, 2015

Goodbook said:
Beware that some milk powders are tainted if not making your own. This happened in China.
They adulterate a lot of foodstuffs there.

I would prefer fresh manna myself.

Also the whole idea of storing heaps of food puts me off if its only just powdered and packet food like those pringles chips which are mushed up potatoes with lots of arrtificial flavours. I wouldnt call that food even. It may last forever but You cant live off junk.

Fresh milk and cheese have been tainted with things like listeria as well as other foods like cucumbers and others been tainted with Salmenella

All foods can be tainted with something, whether you make them yourself or someone makes them for you.

Even breastmilk (whether human or animal) can be tainted.

MrJim · Sep 8, 2015

When it comes to food storage...."store what you eat and eat what you store"~Jack Spirko...hard times are hard enough without having to try something new...and especially finding out that "survival" freeze dried / food never eaten stuff isn't very tasty....simply deepen your pantries instead of buying pallets of Mountain House or MRE/s then having to depend upon that...easy to add another can of soup or peas or corn and gradually growing the existing shopping list of what is already eaten...

Fireinfolding · Sep 8, 2015

Freeze dried hash brown potatoes like regular potatoes are just fine when prepared.

If you stink as a cook and you dont know how to make squat work then all your stuff will taste crappy.

Freezedried also maintains more of the nutritional value then canned or dehydrated, no waste, after opening the can reseal up in another mason jar.

You can try not to make bad decisions on full meals (prepared by someone else) by purchasing a one-two meal trail pack first and decide what you would like from there.

But if you were hungry and it was between grubs and something less savory from mountain house, most folks would chose the later.

MrJim · Sep 9, 2015

Fireinfolding said:
Freeze dried hash brown potatoes like regular potatoes are just fine when prepared.

If you stink as a cook and you dont know how to make squat work then all your stuff will taste crappy.

Freezedried also maintains more of the nutritional value then canned or dehydrated, no waste, after opening the can reseal up in another mason jar.

You can try not to make bad decisions on full meals (prepared by someone else) by purchasing a one-two meal trail pack first and decide what you would like from there.

But if you were hungry and it was between grubs and something less savory from mountain house, most folks would chose the later.

True...but why not simply lay in what is already eaten? At least the canned stuff...sure anything is better than nothing but a crisis is already going to be a stress situation so figure at least the grub can be stuff the family is already accustomed to eating Really not expecting a "long term" crisis of more than 3 or 4 months....after that..well society has already broken down and whomsoever is the most clever or holds the most firepower will be holding the food anyhow?

Fireinfolding · Sep 9, 2015

MrJim said:
True...but why not simply lay in what is already eaten? At least the canned stuff...sure anything is better than nothing but a crisis is already going to be a stress situation so figure at least the grub can be stuff the family is already accustomed to eating Really not expecting a "long term" crisis of more than 3 or 4 months....after that..well society has already broken down and whomsoever is the most clever or holds the most firepower will be holding the food anyhow?

What do you mean lay into what is already eaten?

#10 cans are canned, those cans or the grocery store cans?

MrJim · Sep 9, 2015

"Lay in" as in store more of what you already eat on a regular basis...at least the canned stuff (as opposed to frozen/fresh)...deepen your current pantry.

Fireinfolding · Sep 9, 2015

I dont store what I do not currently eat, the only exception being what has been laid aside for a time of emergency (which is already prepared). I dont eat prepared foods, I typically make everything from scratch. But at the same time I dont use much (if any) frozen fruit or right off the vine fresh of anything.

However, I dont understand deeping ones pantry by eating it, the way you worded that missed me by a mile

Goodbook · Sep 11, 2015

Yea i would prolly die if had to live of cardboard tasting protein bars. The chickens would eat them first.
Then i suppose we would eat the chickens.

Goodbook · Sep 11, 2015

You can preserve eggs for a thousand years as they do in china.

William67 · Sep 12, 2015

Goodbook said:
You can preserve eggs for a thousand years as they do in china.

Have you seen a thousand year old egg? Not a pretty sight.

William67 · Sep 12, 2015

Why not just buy a can sealer, tin cans, and a commercial pressure canner? Then you can do it yourself.

Fireinfolding · Sep 13, 2015

Heres another thing I just tested for myself tonight, I sure wasnt so convinced by the video but I was curious whether it would work and how it would taste, and so I tried it, and tasting it I thought, I gotta post this one (if you guys ever keep any of this stuff in your pantry).

This makes a decent sour cream (not just a sour cream sub for baking) but for sour cream (like a top a potato). And I make homemade sour cream from the culture a couple of times a month and wouldnt have tried this if my can wasnt expiring this month and I couldnt find anything else to do with it. So I looked up the can on youtube and found her video.

I thought, this cant be any decent, but I was wrong, it was the easiest, fastest and pretty darn tastiest sour cream in 3 minutes I ever had, and because the home made verison using the culture takes 24 hours, and thats after heating the cream to 84 degrees measuring out of the packet, stirring, putting it into a thermos and waiting.

I did take a portion of this (without vinegar) and put it in the thermos and added culture it, just to see if it worked and so I could compare the tastes.

I'll give a quick update on that when it finishes up by tommorrow Lord willing.

I see others have tried to make butter from it and even whipped cream, but I havent tried making either from this.

Boaters like this stuff for cream in their coffee from what I understand.

If you have a cow (lucky you)

Fireinfolding · Sep 13, 2015

By the way that second experiment adding the culture to the media crema (which took over night) didnt seem to do anything. The teaspoon of vinegar and waiting a few minutes made a much better sour cream.

Media cream, has a shelf life of a year and a half, and you can use it as cream (as is) make sour cream, get butter, and buttermilk from it.

SavedByGrace3 · Sep 14, 2015

Thanks for that info... sounds good.

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