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What's the most important food for survival situations?

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The old cowboy fare
Beans (dried pinto)
Dried Tomatoes, Apples Apricots
Salt Pork, Beef Jerky
Flour or better yet, corn meal as perhaps the corn meal doesn't go rancid as fast as wheat flour.
Salt, absolutely essential. Sugar, baking powder are nice but not essential as flat bread can be made with little more than flour, salt and water on a griddle or hot, flat rock.

Learn what edible "greens" are available in your area.
It is likely in a survival situation, there won't be any refrigeration.
 
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The old cowboy fare
Beans (dried pinto)
Dried Tomatoes, Apples Apricots
Salt Pork, Beef Jerky

Learn what edible "greens" are available in your area.
It is likely in a survival situation, there won't be any refrigeration.
Add frozen chicken to that list, for folks that prefer poultry such as myself.
 
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I had a couple plastic bins that the rats chewed through and that was a mess.
I had problems with rats once so I moved out. Later on I realized that all I had to do was block the hole they were using to get in. One day I even found out how mice were getting in and that takes a very small opening not much bigger than a quarter.

I was watching a video on YouTube about the ancient Pelebo people that were cliff dwellers. People assume it was to protect them from other people but I think it was to protect their food from the animals. I had some mice out in the garage getting into the bird food. I do not mind feeding animals but the mice were making a huge mess everywhere. So I evicted them. I do not like to kill anything but I will feed them to other animals to eat. I can live trap them but I do not know what to do with them from there. I gave the live trap to the kittens once. I have a video of it. They actually let him out of the trap and he got away from them. It will be nice when the lion and lamb can lay down together and animals will not harm or devour each other. I would be glad to give up eating animals.

My son was in Alaska living in a tent and he said a bear got into his camp when there were not there and shredded his tent to get at his food. I did not believe his story but I talked with a friend of his and he confirmed that it was true. I think he made something out of Styrofoam after that. Or he would get a van or a camper.
 
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It is likely in a survival situation, there won't be any refrigeration.
It would be pretty easy to shut down the power grid. It would not take much. I thought I should prepare myself. At least have some sort of a camp stove so I can cook some food. I am starting to stock up on propane so I would have heat. At least in the smallest room of the house.
 
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I had problems with rats once so I moved out. Later on I realized that all I had to do was block the hole they were using to get in. One day I even found out how mice were getting in and that takes a very small opening not much bigger than a quarter.

I was watching a video on YouTube about the ancient Pelebo people that were cliff dwellers. People assume it was to protect them from other people but I think it was to protect their food from the animals. I had some mice out in the garage getting into the bird food. I do not mind feeding animals but the mice were making a huge mess everywhere. So I evicted them. I do not like to kill anything but I will feed them to other animals to eat. I can live trap them but I do not know what to do with them from there. I gave the live trap to the kittens once. I have a video of it. They actually let him out of the trap and he got away from them. It will be nice when the lion and lamb can lay down together and animals will not harm or devour each other. I would be glad to give up eating animals.

My son was in Alaska living in a tent and he said a bear got into his camp when there were not there and shredded his tent to get at his food. I did not believe his story but I talked with a friend of his and he confirmed that it was true. I think he made something out of Styrofoam after that. Or he would get a van or a camper.
Wow! That's true about what bears will do to get your food when you go camping in their territory. Used to camp a lot. Gotta hang food up in a tree wrapped in plastic so they can't smell it. Skunks and bobcats too. Once our dog got skunked and we had to smell her all the way home. I purchased two battery-operated monitor's that are sensitive to movement and they beep and blinking if something comes near. I also sprayed the area with peppermint spray - haven't seen a critter since I did that. Unable to figure out how they were getting in, but haven't seen anything since last winter. Thanks for sharing.
 
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It would be pretty easy to shut down the power grid. It would not take much. I thought I should prepare myself. At least have some sort of a camp stove so I can cook some food. I am starting to stock I up on propane so I would have heat. At least in the smallest room of the house.
You're so right about that. I have a solar generator, but have never had to use it. But the other day out power went out in our neighborhood and don't know why. It was pretty scary not to know what happened or when it would come on again. Didn't want to go in the attic and bring it down as it's heavy and I had no one to help me. So, I invested in a small generator that runs on a lithium battery and you can charge it with your car battery. I should receive it next Thursday, so I'll test it out. I will keep it charged at all times so that should something like that happen again, we can use it to charge our phones. Has 110 plug. It also includes a radio so we can maybe find out what's going on. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D15JT9X1?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title&th=1
 
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Add frozen chicken to that list, for folks that prefer poultry such as myself.
Love chicken, only purchase free-range organic skinned breasts. I have a small garden and I grow lettuce, kale, cabbage, dandilion greens, onions, jalapena peppers, bell peppers, carrots. I also have two avocado trees, a lemon tree. You can eat lemon and avocado leaves or make tea from them. These grow all year round here because the weather is so nice. Averages 70-80 degrees in the day and rare goes below freezing. Been here 42 years and never remember it going below freezing at night, unless you up in the Cayamaca mountains or in the desert.

Hey Alex, I noticed from another post that you are a programmer, web developer. I'm a retired software engineer. I was creating web pages when html first came out - haha. And SQL, Java, C#, C++, C, Python, and CMS-2. CMS-2 is a specialized language used to develop military systems, such as the combat direction system on aircraft carriers and destroyers.

I was also a writer and taught technical writing at a local college here. I was blessed to have such a wonderful career. Learned the other day that AI will be putting alot of software developers out of work. Always make sure you have one or two other backup careers going on so in case there a major layoff, you can find another job. The more skills you have, the more valuable you are to a development company.

I was an apprentice printer in the early 70s and thought that's what my career would be. I was trained in offset printing at a major newspaper along with the old system off using linotype machines to create metal inkplates. When offset printing took over, the entire composing rooms across the country, all the linotype operators, mostly older people, were laid off, but I wasn't. But, then after the older people were gone, they got rid of the union and the salaries went way down. Because of my paste-up skills, I got a job at a government contractor company as a paste-up artist. The pay was better, but not as much as I was used to. A person there at the company decided to teach programming to anyone who was interested because they were in desparate need of programmers. There were no college classes or sw degrees in those days (1977), so I learned to program in CMS-2. That led to my career as a software engineer for over 40 years. Retired on a nice salary.

I thank the Lord for opening the doors for me to go down that path. He knew that one day my son would break is neck and I'd have to pay a lot of money for caretakers to help me take care of him. God has been there for us all along opening doors and bringing people to our side to help when needed. Sorry to ramble on, but if I could go back to your age, I would have wanted someone to advise me on this. Maybe you could start taking classes on AI. That's what I would do. Fascinating field that's becoming very popular these days. The AI can generate the code, but a human is still needed to design and test it.
 
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Love chicken, only purchase free-range organic skinned breasts. I have a small garden and I grow lettuce, kale, cabbage, dandilion greens, onions, jalapena peppers, bell peppers, carrots. I also have two avocado trees, a lemon tree. You can eat lemon and avocado leaves or make tea from them. These grow all year round here because the weather is so nice. Averages 70-80 degrees in the day and rare goes below freezing. Been here 42 years and never remember it going below freezing at night, unless you up in the Cayamaca mountains or in the desert.

Hey Alex, I noticed from another post that you are a programmer, web developer. I'm a retired software engineer. I was creating web pages when html first came out - haha. And SQL, Java, C#, C++, C, Python, and CMS-2. CMS-2 is a specialized language used to develop military systems, such as the combat direction system on aircraft carriers and destroyers.

I was also a writer and taught technical writing at a local college here. I was blessed to have such a wonderful career. Learned the other day that AI will be putting alot of software developers out of work. Always make sure you have one or two other backup careers going on so in case there a major layoff, you can find another job. The more skills you have, the more valuable you are to a development company.

I was an apprentice printer in the early 70s and thought that's what my career would be. I was trained in offset printing at a major newspaper along with the old system off using linotype machines to create metal inkplates. When offset printing took over, the entire composing rooms across the country, all the linotype operators, mostly older people, were laid off, but I wasn't. But, then after the older people were gone, they got rid of the union and the salaries went way down. Because of my paste-up skills, I got a job at a government contractor company as a paste-up artist. The pay was better, but not as much as I was used to. A person there at the company decided to teach programming to anyone who was interested because they were in desparate need of programmers. There were no college classes or sw degrees in those days (1977), so I learned to program in CMS-2. That led to my career as a software engineer for over 40 years. Retired on a nice salary.

I thank the Lord for opening the doors for me to go down that path. He knew that one day my son would break is neck and I'd have to pay a lot of money for caretakers to help me take care of him. God has been there for us all along opening doors and bringing people to our side to help when needed. Sorry to ramble on, but if I could go back to your age, I would have wanted someone to advise me on this. Maybe you could start taking classes on AI. That's what I would do. Fascinating field that's becoming very popular these days. The AI can generate the code, but a human is still needed to design and test it.
I am not a programmer or developer, but have used a small amount of programming in classes. It is cool that you were a software engineer, as programming needed more women in the workforce at that time, and it is shame that the unions were killed off for your linotype job. California is pretty warm, so it is good that you guys have access to fruit trees and veggies on your land. In Wisconsin, it gets below freezing at night, starting in November or so.

It is good that the Lord has also guided you and your son into the right place. God knew that your son would get an injury, so He gave you a good paying job that could help you retire, but also afford caretaking. Also, for classes, I might take more college, but have only taken 1.5 years of college so far from August 2018 to December 2019 before deciding not to go through the second half of my second year. That was a blessing also, cos then the virus hit in 2020, only to relent a few years later.
 
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I am not a programmer or developer, but have used a small amount of programming in classes. It is cool that you were a software engineer, as programming needed more women in the workforce at that time, and it is shame that the unions were killed off for your linotype job. California is pretty warm, so it is good that you guys have access to fruit trees and veggies on your land. In Wisconsin, it gets below freezing at night, starting in November or so.

It is good that the Lord has also guided you and your son into the right place. God knew that your son would get an injury, so He gave you a good paying job that could help you retire, but also afford caretaking. Also, for classes, I might take more college, but have only taken 1.5 years of college so far from August 2018 to December 2019 before deciding not to go through the second half of my second year. That was a blessing also, cos then the virus hit in 2020, only to relent a few years later.
Back in the 70s, women programmers were rare. But in the 90s, we ruled the roost at one of the companies I worked for! We developed a training system for the army for the US, the British, and Canada. I spent over 10 years developing and testing those systems and most of the sw leads were women. However, I preferred to work with men - less drama. Hang in there and learn as much as you can while your still young. I remember being discrimated against when I was your age, just because I was a female. But there were a lot of good men that the Lord sent my way to train me.
 
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Back in the 70s, women programmers were rare. But in the 90s, we ruled the roost at one of the companies I worked for! We developed a training system for the army for the US, the British, and Canada. I spent over 10 years developing and testing those systems and most of the sw leads were women. However, I preferred to work with men - less drama. Hang in there and learn as much as you can while your still young. I remember being discrimated against when I was your age, just because I was a female. But there were a lot of good men that the Lord sent my way to train me.
It is cool that you were successful in a leadership role.
 
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The old cowboy fare
Beans (dried pinto)
Dried Tomatoes, Apples Apricots
Salt Pork, Beef Jerky
Flour or better yet, corn meal as perhaps the corn meal doesn't go rancid as fast as wheat flour.
Salt, absolutely essential. Sugar, baking powder are nice but not essential as flat bread can be made with little more than flour, salt and water on a griddle or hot, flat rock.

Learn what edible "greens" are available in your area.
It is likely in a survival situation, there won't be any refrigeration.
I purchased a book a while back that identifies and explains all wild foraging veggies in southern cal. I also have an app on my phone that if I view the plant with my camera, the info on the plant is displayed.
 
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It would be pretty easy to shut down the power grid. It would not take much. I thought I should prepare myself. At least have some sort of a camp stove so I can cook some food. I am starting to stock up on propane so I would have heat. At least in the smallest room of the house.
The power grid is the most likely "survival" scenario. An ice storm causing a power outage, disabling electric heaters, refrigerators and an electric vehicle would be a survival mode event.
I would add powdered eggs and milk for tastier flap jacks. Fry bread is better with milk as are hot cereals.
Another consideration is an outdoor barbeque pit and firewood, even if it is only twigs and downed branches gathered around the neighborhood.
The most overlooked fact in survival modes is Fat. It is required for cooking and for metabolic energy so add a few bottles of oil to the supplies. Salt pork was rendered for cooking oil before the bottled oils appeared.
Much depends on how long.. a few days or months, maybe forever? Just depends on any particular persons perception of "survival mode" event.
 
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Another consideration is an outdoor barbeque pit and firewood,
I did a fair amount of camping when I was young. Cooking over an open fire. I remember I had a candle that I would use to heat water for coffee. During the day I would keep the coals just hot enough to start the fire back up at night.
 
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I did a fair amount of camping when I was young. Cooking over an open fire. I remember I had a candle that I would use to heat water for coffee. During the day I would keep the coals just hot enough to start the fire back up at night.
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