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1. As we both know - the Deut 5 incident is 40 years AFTER sinai and merely adds to what God spoke from the mountain -- it is not a replacement.
Exo 20:2 "I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery.
The theme of God being the one who brought them out of slavery, and therefore imposing covenant requirements on them was also in Exodus.
And whether you think it was in addition or not is not really the point. The point is that the Sabbath, like the passover, pointed backwards and forwards. Backward to creation and redemption from Egypt, and forwards to rest in salvation and eventual restoration of the rest of Eden.
There is no mention of God tellng Adam ANYTHING about the day in Eden. God rested on the 7th day of creation and blessed it because HE rested from His labors. No doubt He spent that holy day with His creation. No doubt there was wonderful fellowship with Adam and Eve on their first day of life. But there was no mystery about why it was holy-because God finished the creation.2. There is no way God could have 'made sabbath holy in Gen 2 by telling Adam about deliverance from Egypt" Which means that the "holy Day" of Gen 2:1-3 had only one application for "all mankind" when it was "Made for mankind" not "mankind Made for it".
Nor was there any command to commemorate it at that point every week. God rested, and the day on which He rested the 7th of creation, was blessed and holy.
Later God made a memorial of this as a covenant sign with Israel and it involved both the release from Egypt (as a reminder of God's provision) and God as Creator.
Now as for the sabbath being made there is no reference to the sabbath being made until Exodus.
The sabbath made for man not man for the sabbath is indicative of the purpose of the Sabbath. The rules that had been piled around it by the pharisees made it seem as though man had been made to honor the sabbath, rather than the sabbath to be a time of rest for man. But it is still very much in the context of the dispute between Jesus' disciples and pharisees. And Jesus point is the purpose of the Sabbath, not the scope of the Sabbath being for all mankind. He simply says that they misunderstood the rest in the first place.
Now there was a rest in Eden, no doubt. But it did not end. God has been at rest since:
Heb 4:1 Therefore, while the promise of entering his rest still stands, let us fear lest any of you should seem to have failed to reach it.
Heb 4:2 For good news came to us just as to them, but the message they heard did not benefit them, because they were not united by faith with those who listened.
Heb 4:3 For we who have believed enter that rest, as he has said, "As I swore in my wrath, 'They shall not enter my rest,'" although his works were finished from the foundation of the world.
Heb 4:4 For he has somewhere spoken of the seventh day in this way: "And God rested on the seventh day from all his works."
Heb 4:5 And again in this passage he said, "They shall not enter my rest."
Heb 4:6 Since therefore it remains for some to enter it, and those who formerly received the good news failed to enter because of disobedience,
Heb 4:7 again he appoints a certain day, "Today," saying through David so long afterward, in the words already quoted, "Today, if you hear his voice, do not harden your hearts."
Heb 4:8 For if Joshua had given them rest, God would not have spoken of another day later on.
Heb 4:9 So then, there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God,
Heb 4:10 for whoever has entered God's rest has also rested from his works as God did from his.
Adam and Eve at first enjoyed that rest, but then lost it through sin. It is open to each person "today." It is the rest that God entered from all His work. And we too may enter it and be with Him. But it is not the once per week symbol of creation that God gave to Israel. It is the rest of salvation, of Eden restored, which was never meant to be lost.
The problem is that you cannot show any command of God or any suggestion by God that there was any ongoing weekly memorial every 7th day until He Himself instituted it in Exodus.
The command in Exodus hearkens back to God's rest and blessing of that 7th day of creation. But the sign based on that is one for Israel.
Exo 31:16 Therefore the people of Israel shall keep the Sabbath, observing the Sabbath throughout their generations, as a covenant forever.
Exo 31:17 It is a sign forever between me and the people of Israel that in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested and was refreshed.'"
Exo 31:18 And he gave to Moses, when he had finished speaking with him on Mount Sinai, the two tablets of the testimony, tablets of stone, written with the finger of God.
It was a sign with Israel, given by God, in the midst of the covenant document, as a reminder of His provision for them.
But you cannot point to any such observance before then of the Sabbath on a weekly commemorative basis and no mention of it was made in Eden at all.
Yes, and it also says on the 6th day He did such and such, and on the fifth day, etc.3. Ex 20:8-11 does not say "Now I make the 7th day holy" rather it says that in Eden God "made it Holy"
He made the 7th day of creation holy as a time to rejoice in His completed creation work. Please show where it says He made a commemorative law for man that would come around every week on the 7th day, would involve all the regulations that the Sabbath law in Exodus had, etc. It is not there. There is not the slightest mention of it. God rested on, made holy, and blessed the 7th day of Creation. And His rest continued from there. We were meant to remain in it and now can enter into it by faith, "today."
Indeed the exodus explanation had nothing to do with a weekly cycle. It is a sign with Israel in the middle of their covenant. God was their Creator and Redeemer, and He made a sign for them to remind them of their relationship to Him.We gentiles still use that same application - but we have no idea that God was telling Adam about a future Redeemer in Gen 2:1-3 which is why we see no reference to it in Ex 20:8-11 as God Himself speaks it from Sinai.
There is not doubt that Moses is correct in stating that Israel had an additional reason to honor Christ's Holy out of special national gratitude for deliverance from Egypt (that had nothing to do with a 7 day cycle at all)
How so?
Do we "judge people on image worship"?? I don't think so.
Do we "judge people on praying to the dead"?? I don't think so.
Do we "judge people for breaking God's memorial of His Creative work" - no.
We simply point to what the Bible says and let each person decide for themselves.
They are not to judge because as Christ said in Matt 7 PRE-CROSS "judge not that you be not judged".
The "judge not" argument of Paul is in perfect harmony with the pre-cross position on this error.
in Christ,
Bob
Now, as to Jesus' statement of judge not lest ye be judged, does not Paul say to expel the wicked brother among you? But members of the church were to go to someone who was sinning. Paul says that the Corinthians were to judge the wicked among them who called themselves brothers. But Paul says here not to let any man judge you because these are shadows.
The weekly Sabbath here is lumped right in with the feasts etc. which were not bound on gentiles. Therefore there is no reason to judge them on it.
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