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Depends on what the conversation is about.
But you won't ever find a person who agrees with common descent AND agrees with that premise. I don't see any jumping off point for a discussion.

I've known Christians who see that kind of comment as a seed that can grow, and BAM some day the atheist wakes up to God. But it won't work as a reasoned debate.
 
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Intelligent adults need to even stop trying to engage the petulant that endeavor to argue observed reality with magic and mythology.
What about miracles instead?
 
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But you won't ever find a person who agrees with common descent AND agrees with that premise. I don't see any jumping off point for a discussion.
No argument there.
 
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Sorry for the late reply, I had some things to attend to.
Intelligent adults need to even stop trying to engage the petulant that endeavor to argue observed reality with magic and mythology. It is just silly. Steven Hawking couldn't convince someone that Dumbledore isn't real if they believed it.
What about miracles instead?
Show me some amputated limbs that were regrown.
When Jesus put Caiphas' ear back on him, after Peter had cut it off, shouldn't that have stopped those who came to arrest Jesus in their tracks?

But it didn't.

So if a limb put right back on someone doesn't [pun] cut it [/pun], what makes you think a limb regrowing will?
 
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It would be a great pleasure to encounter one,
but they may not exist.
 
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That is something few creationists understand.
 
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Oh dear.

Do us all a favour and at least look up law v theory?
 
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The Theory of Evolution makes predictions about future findings. That makes it testable. Laws and theories are two different things and sometimes it turns out that laws are not universally applicable. For example, the laws of motion that are used in every day life do not work at speeds approaching the speed of light.
One of the attributes of a theory is that if it is incorrect it can be invalidated (disproven) in whole or in part then must be discarded or changed to include the new data.
Scientists do not try to “prove” theories. That would be a study in frustration. Instead they try to invalidate them. The problem with trying to prove a theory is that we never know what might be discovered tomorrow.
Unlike laws that cover specific phenomena a theory is overarching and covers a broad area. In fact, there is a massive amount of data that supports evolution and nothing that invalidates it.
 
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For six and a half years!
I'll read your reply in 2028.
People change. Some here were not even born when this was posted.
So they missed the discussion.
 
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People change. Some here were not even born when this was posted.
So they missed the discussion.
Some posters may appear to have the intellectual maturity of a 6 year old, but I don't think there are actually any real 6 year olds posting in this forum
 
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Some posters may appear to have the intellectual maturity of a 6 year old, but I don't think there are actually any real 6 year olds posting in this forum
I think BEAMISHBOY is the youngest we've had.
 
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What is the function of Life? What does it accomplish?
At the level of chemistry & physics it's just a complex redox reaction sequence that extends the approach to thermal equilibrium by using low entropy energy sources.

At the cognitive level of agency, purposes, and goals (teleological), its function is to persist, which it accomplishes by evolution (via reproduction with heritable variation).
 
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At the level of chemistry & physics it's just a complex redox reaction sequence that extends the approach to thermal equilibrium by using low entropy energy sources.
Wow.

That's the most impressive academic definition of "life" I've ever read!

The most academic definition of "death" I ever read was: "cessation of telomeres."
 
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Wow.

That's the most impressive academic definition of "life" I've ever read!
"
(I've chided him for over a year to construct something.)
 
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