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If they admit the earth is flat, then they must be telling the truth (according to you) and you must believe them. But you said you will never believe them. You're contradicting yourself.
No, this is a publicly accessible document. The "masses" can read it and others like it. So either they are telling the alleged "truth" of a flat earth to the masses or their documents are not any such admission that the earth is flat.It just goes to show how they are lying to the masses.
No, this is a publicly accessible document. The "masses" can read it and others like it.
I found them with just a simple search on google, and on their own website no less. If NASA were admitting to a flat earth in these documents, would they leave the evidence on their own website? Especially if people like Dean Odle were distributing them to the masses?But they don't do they ? Not many know about them.
I found them with just a simple search on google, and on their own website no less.
It doesn’t matter, I searched and found them, & there was no restriction in reading them. The fact remains they are freely accessible to the public. If NASA were truly covering up their ‘knowledge’ of a flat earth and these documents confirmed it, then they would be top secret & completely inaccessible to the public.Only because you were told about them otherwise you'd have been none the wiser.
What will you do after you will learn its a globe?
Again you are conflating globe earth evidence with evolution. I believe as my brother does, that God created the earth in six literal 24 hour days. And I believe the earth is a rotating globe. And the GREAT part of this is that one day you will know the truth.
It is the density of our bodies that stops us from flying & why things fall & float.
-Point of Robs video is in this example being: Gleason's map shows the accurate distances from the North Pole to Santiago and from the North Pole to Sydney, not the distance from Santiago to Sydney.
Its different, because one is salvation/theological issue, another one is just about the shape of the Earth, which is theologically irrelevant.That is like asking what will you do when you learn that Eternal Life is received by works (repentance, baptism, obedience, etc..) and not belief in Jesus. It's just not conceivable.
Its different, because one is salvation/theological issue, another one is just about the shape of the Earth, which is theologically irrelevant.
Its different, because one is salvation/theological issue, another one is just about the shape of the Earth, which is theologically irrelevant.
If he's an astronomer, he certainl;y can. It's only those who are scared that looking at what God has actually done will ruin what they've always thought God did. Their ill-founded doctrine is more important to them than the truth. Sorry mate, but that's that's the long and the short of it. Y'all ain't about to let God interfere with your doctrine.-He can not testify to a globe earth
Saith he who can only recite what his tiny denomination believes, and any evidence to the contrary, scriptural or scientific, all he can do is believe and repeat what he has been told.
Well, no. A telescope with a proper mount will demonstrate it quite nicely. But then you'd probab;y denounce a telescope as a liar and a tool of satan.Unless he is getting in a rocket and going high enough to see that the creation God created is a globe out in space.
They don't.Well can you explain why these government documents mention a non rotating flat earth ?
The stars are, for all practical purposes, stationary. By observing them at different times and locations, you can determine the movement of the earth, and/or your location on the globe. (Scary thought, innit? But you mustn't look! Observing God's Creation directly might interfere with your doctrine, and we can't have that, can we?)How would they know this by just observing the stars ?
Nah, just the conclusion some folks (very few folks, in fact) draw from misreading/misunderstanding the Bible.-No both are dealing with truth from The Bible
And y'all are dealing with what man misunderstands.and declaring it to be the truth despite the testimony of God's creation itself.and both are also dealing with what man states.
And He made everything else as well. So say we all.So The Bible states
Then God made two great lights: the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night. He made the stars also.
Assuming they accept the silly notion that the earth is stationary and all of God's Creation rotates around it. Right?and
Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me has everlasting life.
They're not actually true. Just as saying that the sun rises and sets, when it in fact does no such thing, it's just how we talk. But thne you may assume that if I say "I turned into a parking lot" that I became a slab of asphalt. Same principle,So man comes along and states these statements from The Bible are not actually true.
And of course God was supposed to explain that to people thousands of years ago who'd have had no basis for understanding it at all. Right. And instead of sayng "the sun rose", He'd have said, "the earth revolved to the point where the light from the sun was visible from the horizon", just as we all say today to be literally accurate, right?The moon is not actually a created light, but a light reflector.
Men of science who looked at God's Creation and saw how it worked. No misinterpreting that, is there?Man says this not because any area of The Bible would cause a person to read Genesis 1:16 as saying light reflector. But because men of science state this.
Y'all can take comfort at that. <Laugh>The specific shape of the earth may not be important for salvation
He revealed the shape of the earth in unmistakable fashion to anyone who isn't scared to actually look.(I wouldn't say any part of God's creation is irrelevant, otherwise he wouldn't have revealed it to us so often)
Sorry, but that's simple rubbish.However, I would say there are some serious theological issues with modern cosmology more generally, and the naturalistic creation mythology that it presents via billions of years of "Cosmic Evolution"
Which is an plainly observable fact, whch your curious pseudo-Christian, and, tbh, frighteningly dualistic, reading of the Scripture requires you to deny.... Heliocentrism is the foundation for this mythology, and heliocentrism in turn fully relies on a belief in a globe earth.
Which are, in fact, designed by the Creator of Nature, God. Y'all are like the folks who prate about something that "defied the laws of Physics", not understanding that the Laws of Physics, like all other natural law, the Laws of God, part and parcel of His design.Taken together, this mythology all leans toward giving glory to the processes of nature.
Who did you have in mind? I know your lot tend to see Satan as a Bad God in opposition to the Good God who we revere, but the fact is there's only one God, and Old Nick is simply one of His creatures, who exiists only at God's sufference. So yes, God's Laws are the "ultimate drivers" of of the workings of His cosmos, whether you approve of them or not.One can tack on 'God' as the ultimate driver of cosmic evolution,
Big Bang, as opposed to "LIght, BE!". Gotta make sure we use properly religious nomenclature, don't we? Imean, one means when everything came into existence, and the other means... when everything came into existence. Wouldn't want to confuse the two, woould we?but as most Big-Bang cosmology
Believers in what? Have you given that strawman a name?believers would tell you, God is unnecessary
Nope. Science can only speak from evidence, so it can only speculate on what caused the Creation. Christians believe, by revelation that God caused the Creation by His command. There's no one I know of who believes that Creation didn't happen.and simply an option of personal preference.
Beating the strawman again.Modern cosmology makes God a mere option
I'd venture that folks who thump the tub for what are generally perceived as numb-skulled indeas like "flat earth" and "geocentric universe" do more to drive people away from the Christian faith than anything else. The perception becomes that Christians are a bunch of mouth-breathing illiterates whose religion requires them to deny reality. Sorry, but that's the fact. I'm sure that reinforces the way y'all would like to see yourslves, as true-believing stalwarts, the Chosen Few who stand opposed to the machinations of the Bad God. But in fact the image is, well, of just another bunch following the made up religion du jour.and usually inspires agnosticism and atheism.
Dunno about the "evolving" part, except that it provided a place for your fellow flatties to holler "boo!" Exploring the unverse God created? Sounds like a plan to me, mate! In fact, I 'spect that'll be something that that's one of the jots of Heaven, to be able to explore and marvel at God's infinite Creation. Of course, I'm sure y'all will be allowed to stay in the little snow globe universe that's all that you believe exists.Its adherents are more interested in socially 'evolving' towards the exploration of an infinite Star-Trek universe
Really? Lessee, we believe that God created a universe vast beyond our comprehension, and designed it with unimaginable beauty and elegance., instead of humbling themselves before their Creator
So this comes back to "Flatties Only" sign on the gates of Heaven", right? I think you're going to be disappointed there, as well., repenting, and surrendering to the cross of Christ.
Nah, just the conclusion some folks (very few folks, in fact) draw from misreading/misunderstanding the Bible.
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