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The ancients did not know that.
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they consider Christians crazy (or misguided at least)
talk of flat earth is not helping…
You said that many times yet you want to agree with them about what you interpret to be their understanding of the shape of the Earth?
And he explains that when he says, "The globular form of the earth was then unknown;
I think they were incredibly insightful about the Atmosphere and where water comes from
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Christianity is its own worst antagonist and has been rendered very ineffective. I am sure a strategy of satan the list is long of the many areas that have made their home in christianity's beliefs that are not base in a Biblical foundation. The globe earth is just one of these beliefs.
The globe earth is not satanic. It's the real shape of the Earth.
So if a christian believes in the globe earth they may as well add evolution to their beliefs.
Lets see has it been a flat stationary earth with a sun, moon and stars placed in the raqia above the earth, to give light on the earth. With these lights close to earth and not thousand, millions to billions of miles/light years away. To give birth to evolution.
Or has it been a globe earth existing in an endless outer space with all the stated millions, billions, trillions of miles/light years. That has been the birth of evolution. Because that is what evolution requires to exist.
We don't have to be "hyper-literal". We just need to think about what the ancient authors would have known and believed. To understand what they wrote, we have to put ourselves in their shoes.
The ancients did not have crafts in space.
The ancients did not know that.
The ancients had no way of knowing they were deceived by this appearance.
The ancients did not know that. The ancients did not know what 'space' was.
The ancients did not know that. The ancients did not know what 'space' was. The ancients had never been to space.
I think the problem is not that my reading is hyper-literal, but that your reading is anachronistic. The text was written by people who did not have the advantage of your knowledge. When they talk about rain falling through windows, you immediately think, "Oh, what a splendid metaphor! Of course we really know that..."
But the people who wrote it did not know that.
For @ewq1938, the question is, why must scripture be accurate in all matters, physics, art, biology, astronomy etc. Rather than simply just being accurate in other ways such as revealing God, God's vision and purpose and God's good news?
I don't think that is accurate language. God used the only language that people could understand. He was not trying to give detailed information. The bible is not a technical instruction manual.
I was the first to introduce that very thought:
And yet, your position proposes that the authors of Genesis did in fact know modern scientific information, such as the idea that the earth is spherical, does it not?
That these ancient people were accurate in their minds, in all modern scientific matters?
No. They knew the Earth was a circle, which it is but what they may not have known is the circular aspect of the Earth was spherical. To know that either God would have to reveal it to them or they would have to be able to fly around the world.
All scientific matters? That doesn't need an answer.
Yes it does, it has everything to do with evolution.
No… they're different ideas
Earth is observed from space (admit it)
Evolution seems true…
I think humanity is more ancient
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Yes it does, it has everything to do with evolution.
Do you think it's possible that they could have simply believed that the earth was fully a circle with no spherical aspect to it?
No they are not, a globe earth supports evolution. Just like fire needs fuel to burn, evolution needs a creation to exist in.
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