flat earth debate

[patrick jane]

I'm still trying to understand the mentality. It's a mystery to me, although it seems to involve both an inability to think critically and a kind of paranoia.

The mentality is facing reality. It takes a gargantuan leap of faith and blind trust to believe the last 500 years of cosmology, which includes but is not limited to, big bangs, evolution, gravity, dark matter, dark energy. "deep space that never ends" (when God clearly speaks of the end of heaven above the earth), Other magical "forces", seeding other planets, fantasies and delusions of living in space and travelling the stars, parallel universes, multi-verses, a possibility of merging with the universe and transcending space and time. Those are all strong delusions.

Not to mention they're probably cloning humans by now and AI will eventually run and control the world FOR the elite. I'm 49 so I won't see the worst of it but this is the "mentality" of the increasing majority of the world. They "train" our children to question nothing. An awakening is taking place and folks can stick your head in the sand and ignore the truth but it's been happening since the bankers took over the world. You should see the Conspiracy thread and see why some are paranoid. My confidence comes from the faith and Power of Jesus Christ.

 

[Radagast]

... although it seems to involve both an inability to think critically and a kind of paranoia.

... and an inability to respond to what people actually say, it seems.

 

[mmksparbud]

"We Flat Earthers are too smart for your tricks
Magellan did not return. He officially died through the hands of some tribes people, while fighting for Christianity. Even your fake history books admit that.
Flatters know, that he was on his way to fall down from the edges of Earth. The crew was not as dumb and blinded as the people of today. The men let him walk the plank, together with his supporters. That is why so many were missing at the end of the mission. The remaining crew returned, but took a different route back to Europe. Of course they had to invent some stories about primitive Kingdoms in the far East of the World. The crew made him a martyr for the sake of Christianity and science.
Otherwise they would have ended up on the gallows"

There you go---everyone --- the real truth on Magellan!

 

[Radagast]

"We Flat Earthers are too smart for your tricks

Of course Magellan never actually said "The Church says that the Earth is flat, but I know that it is round. For I have seen the shadow of the earth on the moon and I have more faith in the Shadow than in the Church." The anti-Christian Robert G. Ingersoll invented that "quote" in the 1800s. In fact, the medieval Church taught that the earth is spherical.

What I would like the flat-earthers to explain, though, is the 1955–58 Commonwealth Trans-Antarctic Expedition.

 

[mmksparbud]

Of course Magellan never actually said "The Church says that the Earth is flat, but I know that it is round. For I have seen the shadow of the earth on the moon and I have more faith in the Shadow than in the Church." The anti-Christian Robert G. Ingersoll invented that "quote" in the 1800s. In fact, the medieval Church taught that the earth is spherical.

What I would like the flat-earthers to explain, though, is the 1955–58 Commonwealth Trans-Antarctic Expedition.

Well, now, the old boy did say "I believe it was Magellan who said..."----He might not have flat out lied--just sort of misplaced his memory??

"St. Thomas Aquinas, who was made a saint because of his genius, wrote that the world was round almost 250 years before Columbus made his journey. Medieval universities, which were Christian institutions, used a textbook entitled Sphere to teach astronomy. Two hundred years before Columbus, Buridan, Rector of the University of Paris, wrote a long discussion proving that the rotation of the Earth on its axis produced night and day, assuming, as did all his fellow Christian scholars throughout Europe, that the Earth was round. No serious Christian thinkers thought that the world was flat, as Edward Grant notes in his 1971 book, Physical Science in the Middle Ages (London: Cambridge University Press, 1971.)"

 

[Radagast]

Well, now, the old boy did say "I believe it was Magellan who said..."----He might not have flat out lied--just sort of misplaced his memory??

Ingersoll flat out lied. The "quote" appears nowhere in literature before him.

No serious Christian thinkers thought that the world was flat, as Edward Grant notes in his 1971 book, Physical Science in the Middle Ages (London: Cambridge University Press, 1971.)"

Correct. This, for example, is the view of the world in Dante's Inferno:

 

[patrick jane]

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[JackRT]

There first actual photograph of the curved horizon of the earth was taken from a V-2 rocket at a height of 60 miles. The curvature does not really become noticeable until about 50 miles. The highest balloon flights are 25-30 miles.

 

[patrick jane]

There first actual photograph of the curved horizon of the earth was taken from a V-2 rocket at a height of 60 miles. The curvature does not really become noticeable until about 50 miles. The highest balloon flights are 25-30 miles.

Great, that doesn't prove a globe because nobody has ever seen curvature, since there is none and all pictures of a ball are Fake, yet this fact proves that ANYBODY that claims to have seen the curvature from a jet or a plane is simply mistaken or outright lying. That also rules out all pilots from being in on the conspiracy. Thanks for that. Plane windows are almost ALL curved glass or plastic type glass.

 

[JackRT]

So are you going to the big flat earth convention in Edmonton this summer? ---- all the conspirators will be there

 

[Trogdor the Burninator]

All those images and photos are Fake and come from only a few original source, maybe only one or two sources.

I love all the "NASA photos are fake" stuff. Of course, Russia, China and the EU all have space agencies too - who apparently cooperate in the FE conspiracy despite those countries otherwise not liking each other very much

 

[Trogdor the Burninator]

Great, that doesn't prove a globe because nobody has ever seen curvature, since there is none and all pictures of a ball are Fake,

So essentially any photo which proves that the Earth is a globe must be fake, but any photo which "proves" FE must be real?

Kind of a self-fulfilling prophesy there...

 

[MoneyGuy]

So are you going to the big flat earth convention in Edmonton this summer? ---- all the conspirators will be there

Crackpots from all over the globe, hehe, will be attending.

Flat earthers from around the globe coming to Edmonton for international conference

 

[patrick jane]

So are you going to the big flat earth convention in Edmonton this summer? ---- all the conspirators will be there

No, I only began a month ago. I'm not a conspiracy nut but a realist.

 

[patrick jane]

So essentially any photo which proves that the Earth is a globe must be fake, but any photo which "proves" FE must be real?

Kind of a self-fulfilling prophesy there...

You're catching on.

 

[Aldebaran]

So essentially any photo which proves that the Earth is a globe must be fake, but any photo which "proves" FE must be real?

Kind of a self-fulfilling prophesy there...

That's the reasoning they've been using all along--that any pictures that show a round earth are faked because we "know" it is flat.

 

[Aldebaran]

You're catching on.

Wait, I think I get it now. You're just pretending to be a flat earther and presenting all these crazy claims in order to actually discredit the FE viewpoint. Am I right?

 

[patrick jane]

Wait, I think I get it now. You're just pretending to be a flat earther and presenting all these crazy claims in order to actually discredit the FE viewpoint. Am I right?

No, I'm not pretending, have you seen the scriptures I posted and interpreted in the Biblical thread? I'm completely sincere in this possibility. I'm simply never going to be 100% certain I'm on a flying spinning ball for the rest of my life, unless I get the moon.

 

[patrick jane]

The helical model - our solar system is a Hoax
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