First new gay thread

[mpok1519]

Can yopu quote me a law that prevents that?

How would that change your perception? I don't think it would; I think you're just doing the "prove to me its true or I don't believe it" card.

 

[Beanieboy]

And why exactly should my religion not come into play?

The Constitution says that the government shall neither prohibit nor endorse any one religion.

However, I understand one voting with one's religion. However, it seems to be selective. The first commandment says that you shall have no other gods before God. Are there protests to ban other religions, and make Christianity the official and only religion of the US? Or are others allowed to peacefully and respectfully disregard this commandment, and practice their own religion to the own god as they choose?

Divorce is prohibitted in the bible, yet no one is rushing out to vote on repealing it and making it illegal. Jesus said that a couple who divorces and remarries is committing adultery, and yet, they are people even within the church living an "adulterous lifestyle."

The person claims to be voting their religion, while ignoring others that violate their beliefs. One has to question, then, the true motivation.

 

[mpok1519]

yes; the church advocates 'do this, and do that', yet, when someone divorces and remarries, they don't kick them out of the church, yet, if someone who is homosexual comes out to their church members, they get excommunicated.

Kinda biggoted if you ask me.

 

[Chaplain David]

Soon all the baby boomers who're afraid of homosexuality will be gone and the votes for homosexual marriage will be higher.

Enjoy it while it lasts Mach. =)

The fear of homosexuality is a myth perpetrated by the same group that coined the word, homophobia. What's to be afraid of if you're not actively gay? You better get some God-o-phobia before it's too late. God doesn't like it. He said so. I don't like it either. That's not a fear. It's pure dislike and disgust of the "act of homosexuality" because it disgusts God.

1 Cor 6:9-10 - 9Or (K)do you not know that the unrighteous will not (L)inherit the kingdom of God? (M)Do not be deceived; (N)neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor [a]effeminate, nor homosexuals,...

PS The argument about the bible being translated wrong or that Jesus didn't address homosexuality doesn't work on me.

 

[Beanieboy]

There was a time when white folks who went to church, who claimed to love their neighbor, supported segregation, wouldn't even let black people into their church to worship God himself. They argued that they were justified.

Now that time has passed, we look at those pictures, the photos and the film, and it is seen for what it is.

 

[HaloHope]

You know it is funny, but if you ask most women what is the ugliest part of a man's body, it isn't the butt (I can assure you). Such emotions don't make them all lesbians.

Perhaps not, but to me it does. If I was to even visualize the aforementioned "part of a man that isn't the butt" (heh) in my head I would feel like im going to vomit, the entire concept of penatrative sex revolts me beyond all possible belief and theres no way I could find any inch of a man sexually attractive from head to toe. If I was to have hetrosexual intercourse id find it emotionally damaging beyond all comprehensible terminology.

It makes them very normal. It is rather ugly. And people who would put such things in their mouths are no more adult than a baby eating a handful of dirt.

That was quite a big jump to oral sex, again as I said I find penatrative sex disgusting, but just because I do dosent mean everyone has to.

Sorry, I do not fall for all the homosexual hype. If one wants a baby then one must make a determination that that baby needs both a mother and a daddy. The family comes first, and the "normal" family is made up of a husband and wife (not boy friend, boy friend nor girl friend, girl friend).

Erm im not entirely sure what your saying here, but I dont care less about "normal", normal is distinctly overated and leads to people being treated as less than human beings for not being "normal". My family is myself, my girlfriend and any children we may or may not adopt in the future, I couldnt care less if its normal its a family and nobody can ever change that.

Being with a person doesn't mean sex needs to follow.

True. But sex is a natural urge that comes from the deep emotional love one has for ones partner, and its fairly "normal" to act on that emotion to form an even deeper bond.

 

[Starbuck]

yes; the church advocates 'do this, and do that', yet, when someone divorces and remarries, they don't kick them out of the church, yet, if someone who is homosexual comes out to their church members, they get excommunicated.

Kinda biggoted if you ask me.

My father, a pastor, kicked me out of the house about a month after my 16th birthday when I told him I was gay. Well, after sending me to an "Intensive Christian Reparative Retreat," that lasted three months I was kicked out. Two years ago he performed my older sister's second marriage in five years. I was kicked out of the wedding when I mentioned Matthew 5:32.

People don't like talking about their own sin, they'd rather talk about someone else's. As evidenced by the amount of posts in this thread.

 

[YamiB]

Neither can straight people

So interracial couples had equal rights when they were not allowed to marry right?

 

[MachZer0]

If I child needs a male and female couple to raise it successfully how come the research indicates otherwise?


So we should be able to vote away the ability of interracial couples or irreligious couples to marry right?

We certainly could, if we had the votes and that's what we wanted to do

 

[MachZer0]

So interracial couples had equal rights when they were not allowed to marry right?

To my knowledge, couples don't have rights. Individuals have rights. And when interracial couples were not allowed to marry, they had the same rights as everyone else

 

[4ng3l0fd34th]

And people who would put such things in their mouths are no more adult than a baby eating a handful of dirt.

Wait.. I'm confused. What does this have to do with the gay community? You're comparing someone giving her/his boyfriend a BJ to a child eating dirt? So because I give my fiance head, that means I'm immature or childish or something?

 

[katautumn]

The fear of homosexuality is a myth perpetrated by the same group that coined the word, homophobia. What's to be afraid of if you're not actively gay?

Fear of seeing a same-sex couple together in public or that society by and large will tolerate them and that makes some people uncomfortable because they think "gay is gross".

You better get some God-o-phobia before it's too late. God doesn't like it. He said so.

Your God doesn't like a lot of things - drunkenness, deceit, gossip, an ill temper, sex with your wife during her menstrual period, gathering sticks on the Sabbath, grain sacrifices when meat is available, etc.

I don't like it either. That's not a fear. It's pure dislike and disgust of the "act of homosexuality" because it disgusts God.

Or maybe you could just be honest and say that the thought of two men having sex gives you the heebie jeebies?

PS The argument about the bible being translated wrong or that Jesus didn't address homosexuality doesn't work on me.

How convenient.

 

[YamiB]

I'm not really sure if there is much point in trying to reason with somebody who thinks it would be fine to restrict people from getting government recognized marriages based on factors such as race and religion and thinks that people were being treated equally when interracial marriage was illegal.

 

[MachZer0]

How would that change your perception? I don't think it would; I think you're just doing the "prove to me its true or I don't believe it" card.

If no such law exists, then it isn't a rights issue and it's just a red herring in the discussion

 

[mpok1519]

Mach>> the law says only heterosexuals can be married; if I claim to be the 'lover' of someone in the hospital, they won't let me see them unless I can provide proof that we're married.

I suppose you think thats okay though.

 

[MachZer0]

I'm not really sure if there is much point in trying to reason with somebody who thinks it would be fine to restrict people from getting government recognized marriages based on factors such as race and religion

I never said it would be fine. Isaid we could do it if we so wished

and thinks that people were being treated equally when interracial marriage was illegal.

They were treated equally

 

[mpok1519]

The fear of homosexuality is a myth perpetrated by the same group that coined the word, homophobia. What's to be afraid of if you're not actively gay? You better get some God-o-phobia before it's too late. God doesn't like it. He said so. I don't like it either. That's not a fear. It's pure dislike and disgust of the "act of homosexuality" because it disgusts God.

Fear leads to anger; anger leads to hate; hate leads to suffering.

An omnipotent and omniscient God has no fear, and thus, has no anger, and thus has no hate, and thus, makes no suffering.

Anger, disgust, and dislike stem FROM fear.

Care to tell me how they don't?

 

[MachZer0]

Mach>> the law says only heterosexuals can be married; if I claim to be the 'lover' of someone in the hospital, they won't let me see them unless I can provide proof that we're married.

I suppose you think thats okay though.

Again, can you cite a law that makes it that way? And for what it's worth I don't even beilieve what you're saying is true. I've visited completely unrelated people in the hospital and I've had visits from unrelated people. Sounds like a red herring indeed

 

[mpok1519]

http://current.com/items/89055944_lesbian_denied_access_to_dying_partner_sues_hospital

I dunno if there is a law denying visitation, but theres certainly no law PROTECTING the right of visitation.

 

[4ng3l0fd34th]

Again, can you cite a law that makes it that way? And for what it's worth I don't even beilieve what you're saying is true. I've visited completely unrelated people in the hospital and I've had visits from unrelated people. Sounds like a red herring indeed

I believe it's common knowledge (or should be anyway) that only immediate family members are allowed to visit patients in ICU (or of course, CCU). That does not include Bob's same-sex partner, Bill. Bob is possibly dying in ICU & his life-long partner has no rights in the situation & can not get in to see him. Get the picture?