Yes, it is your claim even though you try to put the words in my mouth.
dear one, I have had enough of this nonsense, my claim was that without food, sleep and air one would die, I made no claim as to how, when, where, how long, etc. one would be deprived, only that all three were necessary to survival...anything else you may have thought, is in your imagination.
And that claim I do not dispute, other than that it is entirely irrelevant to what I said.
and yet, your argument was that we can compare food and sleep to masturbation, I responded that we couldn't because sleep and food were necessary for survival, to which you made some lame comment about if you try to hold your breath, you will pass out and breath...which as you can see from our summary of the entire discussion is irrelevant to the discussion and yet you somehow want me to evidence a claim I did not make....that makes totally no sense and leaves your argument silly as I stated previously and I will consider any further attempt to paint me as saying something differently as flaming and report you though that goes against every grain of my being....iow's if you continue to try to change my words into something you want me to say, I will consider it flaming. If on the other hand, you deal with what was actually said, we can have a great discussion and maybe learn something from each other.
You said earlier that you can't kill yourself from not masturbating as though that set it apart from fasting or sleep deprivation, and I responded that likewise you can't kill yourself with voluntary sleep deprivation or holding your breath.
well, that isn't totally true either, it may be how you wanted the discussion to go, but it is far from how it actually went, in fact, your first statement here is a falsehood to start out with, for I did NOT say that you can't kill yourself from not masturbating, what I said is that there is no medical evidence that suggests that not masturbating is dangerous to one's health....
I mean, really, how can you expect to have a fair debate if you can't even get the first part of the discussion right, and it goes downhill from there. After I said that there appears to be NO medical evidence suggesting that not masturbation will do physical harm, you tried to equate not masturbating to eating and sleeping. To that, I argued that that was comparing apples to oranges in that eating and sleeping were necessary for survival whereas, masturbation was not in that same category. Notice nothing in that claim suggests self infliction because the only claim is that you can't compare apples and oranges. To which you replied your silly argument that you would fall asleep or start breathing before you killed yourself from lack thereof (btw, I noticed that you didn't claim you couldn't starve yourself to death, which was part of that original claim, that without food you would die, but hey, when all you do is pick and choose, leaving that one out is just more of your usual)...anyway, back to topic. I then told you that you weren't staying consistent with the arguments being made, and instead you are reinventing them, to which you "demanded" I provide evidence that one could hold their breath long enough to die....now come on, there isn't a single post on this thread where I said or even suggested such a thing and if you really believe that is what I said, I challenge you to show the post, cause I assure you it does not exist, and this type of argument seems to be flamatory, though I am willing to look the other way by assuming you just didn't read what was really written because of your emotional charged view of the topic. So once called on this response, you then try the old argument, that I wasn't responding to what you said, so let me refer you to post #114 to see where it all started.
Incidentally, just like with sleep deprivation and holding your breath, without sexual release you eventually fall unconscious and your unconscious does it for you.
Nocturnal emission - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
nocturnal emission is not the same thing as masturbation and we are still waiting for you to evidence with medical research that lack of [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] causes harm....without the evidence and without your understanding the difference between masturbation and nocturnal emission, we are done with the discussion, for without those two things, you simply have no argument at all. Well, no argument with anything relevant to offer the discussion.
BTW, since the dreams that go with this usually involve images of women who you probably aren't married to (or homosexual encounters too says wiki), and you can't control that, wouldn't masturbating without imagery be better from the standpoint of lust?
Ask someone who holds those views.....
