Originally posted by jenlu
well...
as it is, I have not explained myself that well...I thought in my original post to Back to the Future...I implied that I believed His ressurrection to be both bodily and spiritual...but thanks for the input anyway...do you think our ressurrection will be bodily and spiritual as well or just spiritual...although I think you believe our ressurrection to have past, but did that include a bodily ressurrection as well... Honest question...I know, you probably think I'm a homer...
Heck no..these are great questions! thanks for making me think!
Let me first point out that this Doctorine is called "The resurrection of the
dead.
When you ask if I believe "our" resurrection is past, I believe that The "general" resurrection of the dead saints in Hades into Gods presence in Heaven happened in 70, and the Living were "changed" in covenental status. from then on, all in Christ receive our resurrection body immediatly upon physical death and are ushered into heaven.
I believe that after the seed dies, God then gives us a new, spiritual body. We today will not have to wait in the hadean realm, apart from the presence of God, for some future date to get our resurrection bodies. Since 70, each Christian, in his own turn, receives his resurrection Body upon physical death.
That being said, I want to also point out that The resurrection is not something Jesus
does as much as it is something Jesus
is.
Only the dead needed resurrecting, and it was a resurrection into the presence of God. Since Christians today are in Gods presence, and will never be seperated from it, not even by death, in that sense you could say our resurretion is past, even though we do not receive our resurrection body until we shed this earthly one, which returns to dust.
I do not believe my fleshly body will "rise again" after it decays, Christ was the only one promised that, and He needed to have the same body rise again as evidence! same as the holes in his wrists and side and feet.
Christ retained His death wounds. If ours is a fleshy resurrection, and it is to be just like Christs, we, by necessity, would have to retain our death wounds Just like christ did.
Not a pretty picture.
Thankfully, unlike Christ, we will have nothing to prove with our resurrection bodies, so we do not need to retain our wounds, or even retain our flesh. Our resurrection Bodies will be like Christs glorified body, which he did nto receive until
after the cloud took Him out of their sight. Tha is why John said ,
after he saw Jesus' risen body, that he did not know what ours would be like, but they would be like His.
John knew that Jesus resurrected Body was not Jesus "glorified" body, and that our resurrection Bodies would be like Jesus' Glorified body, not His risen Body, which was the same Body as Before the Cross.
I hope that makes some sense.
In Christ,P70