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FDA cancels vaccine advisory meeting for choosing flu strains for next season’s shots

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Dude, it was eradicated in NZ, take another look at your graph.

Dude. It wasn't. Take another look at my graph. New Zealand has had twice as many cumulative infections per capita as the United States has had. As I said, at best, you suppressed the disease for a time. But you did not "eradicate" anything.

Perhaps you don't realize that words have meanings. From Merriam Webster:

Eradicate: To do away with completely, as if by pulling up by the roots

Imagine for a minute if you will a yard full of weeds. I go outside with my lawn tractor and run them all over, cutting them down to the ground. Did I "eradicate" the weeds? I mean, you can't see them any more. It will appear as f they're gone for an extended period of time. I can even lie to myself and others and tell people that I "eradicated" the weeds, and some might believe me in that moment because of what they see. But they are not, and never were, "eradicated". And when the weeds come roaring back, everyone would see that my claims of "eradication" were completely false.

Likewise with COVID in New Zealand. There was a period of time when you were lied by your government to and told that if only you'd follow the mitigation measures, you would achieve zero COVID. But you did not. As the graph shows, you experienced an almost instant precipitous increase of infections that climbed far above the rate in the United States in just a few short months. That does not happen with diseases that have been successfully "eradicated".

Much like weeds in the yard, your government instituted unsustainable, liberty-crushing mandates that did nothing to "eradicate" the disease. It was suppressed for a very brief period of time. And apparently, many people in New Zealand fell for it, never giving a second thought to the the people whose lives were ending daily from other causes in isolation while separated from their loved ones. The myopic and selfish focus on COVID meant that families were denied closure at the death of loved ones for an extended period of time. But that didn't matter. As long as the COVID graph stayed at zero,. people were satisfied that they were "doing something". Until the ruse became unsustainable, and the entire world saw the weeds shoot up from below the surface.
 
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Dude. It wasn't.
It is pointless talking to someone who knows nothing about what they are talking about and yet they go on and on and on.

And especially if someone who was there, who lived through it is trying to tell them what actually happened and yet they get ignored while the ignorant just go on and on and on.

"A fool knows a little and says a lot,
A wise man knows a lot and says a little"
 
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Most of the left and some of the right followed the recommendation of WHO, CDC, the Covid Taskforce.
They did it because, they wanted to help save lives, help control the outbreak, and protect themselves and their loved ones. It had nothing to do with the identity of the left or Democrats or any movement.

They wanted to, but it was ineffective. It didn't control anything or protect anyone. Masks were and always have been ineffective for this. Most of the left believed the hype and false information. Thats the problem. Nit only that but they got angry and frustrated at those who didn't fall for it.
 
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They wanted to, but it was ineffective. It didn't control anything or protect anyone. Masks were and always have been ineffective for this. Most of the left believed the hype and false information. Thats the problem. Nit only that but they got angry and frustrated at those who didn't fall for it.
these methods are only effective if almost everyone complies. But when you have almost half the country resisting doing anything to save lives in a pandemic then your are stuffed.

In my country it didn't get political. Both the left and the right were supportive of trying to beat the pandemic and so we were able to beat it, we survived and got our population vaccinated before the virus then went through the population.
It can be done, but not if you have idiots running around refusing to do their bit to help the country.
 
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It is pointless talking to someone who knows nothing about what they are talking about and yet they go on and on and on.

And especially if someone who was there, who lived through it is trying to tell them what actually happened and yet they get ignored while the ignorant just go on and on and on.

"A fool knows a little and says a lot,
A wise man knows a lot and says a little"

This whole post is nothing more than an ad hominem.

New Zealand never eradicated COVID as the data clearly demonstrates, and it's pointless to talk to someone who has deluded themselves into thinking that they did.
 
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New Zealand never eradicated COVID
Keep going with your nonsense, blh, blah blah, it never stops.

Maybe if you pick a topic you actually know something about, it will be worth my time reading your post.
 
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They wanted to, but it was ineffective. It didn't control anything or protect anyone. Masks were and always have been ineffective for this. Most of the left believed the hype and false information. Thats the problem. Nit only that but they got angry and frustrated at those who didn't fall for it.

That's correct.

When you have people refusing to acknowledge 18 years of scientific data, it's hard to trust anything that they say, which is why vaccination rates have plummeted.

Not only were these measures ineffective, they MANDATED ineffective measures on people.
 
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Keep going with your nonsense, blh, blah blah, it never stops.

Maybe if you pick a topic you actually know something about, it will be worth my time reading your post.

I'm sorry that reality is at odds with your preconceived ideas. It happens.
 
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