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I'm not willing to sacrifice accuracy by embracing your propaganda buzzwords.
Have a good night.
Accuracy is exactly what you are sacrificing. Right wing extremists do exist. Right wing extremists have tried to subvert our democracy. Not talking about them won’t make them disappear. Forbidding folk from talking about them is so Orwellian.
 
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Accuracy is exactly what you are sacrificing. Right wing extremists do exist. Right wing extremists have tried to subvert our democracy. Not talking about them won’t make them disappear. Forbidding folk from talking about them is so Orwellian.

Nobody is forbidding you from talking about anything. I'll let you say whatever is on your mind. But if forbidding someone from talking about something is Orwellian, stay off the two major social networking platforms.
 
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He would try if he was the "uniter" he once claimed to be.
I think he is a uniter. He doesn't keep harping on about D vs R like Trump did.
He doesn't blame everything on R or conservatives like Trump blamed everything on D and liberals
He doesn't come up with derogatory names for Republicans or Conservatives like Trump did when he constantly called them socialists and radical left.

Biden attacked the MAGA group, but said they were the minority of Republicans.
 
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One that is hardly anyone's main concern. It's only biden's concern, because he knows his party is a sinking ship, and he's going down with it.
I'm pretty sure the MAGA crowd are a top concern with the department of defence and homeland security. They certainly don't want another insurrection or a civil war. And will all the excitement going on with the Mara lago raid and the extreme right getting all upset and thinking this is political persecution, one can easily see how this is a matter of national security.
 
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MAGA didn't attack the Capital. Some misguided Trump supporters who have been arrested attacked the Capitol. One of them who assaulted a police officer was just sentenced to 10 years. In New York you can assault a police officer and not even have to make bail. The people responsible for January 6th are being prosecuted. They don't represent all the people who thought making America great again was a good idea. Wild video shows teen punching, grappling with NYPD cop
I remember seeing lots of red hats and people chanting for Trump (as well as chanting "Hang Pence")
 
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Nobody is forbidding you from talking about anything. I'll let you say whatever is on your mind. But if forbidding someone from talking about something is Orwellian, stay off the two major social networking platforms.
You are objecting to any phrase that identifies who it is we are talking about. That is Orwellian. Insisting we are talking about those we are not talking about muddies the water and makes a real discussion nearly impossible.
 
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I'm pretty sure the MAGA crowd are a top concern with the department of defence and homeland security. They certainly don't want another insurrection or a civil war. And will all the excitement going on with the Mara lago raid and the extreme right getting all upset and thinking this is political persecution, one can easily see how this is a matter of national security.
I'm sure you are right. They're keeping an eye on Trump voters but those people that caused $2 billion in damage and all the unvetted people coming across the border are no concern.
 
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Excuse me, but those were your own words. I didn't cram them into your face. I simply repeated them back to you.

False.

I said nothing about "Americans who voted for Donald Trump for president"
I said nothing about "those who want to see America be great again"

I'm talking about anti-government extremists.
 
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Where does this come from?
What gives you an incling that this might happen?

Emergencies are the "in" thing these days, and the people who never let such things go to waste are currently in power. War, climate change, Covid, Monkeypox, the imminent threat of those MAGA people voting in the election. So many reasons to declare an "emergency"!
 
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I think he is a uniter. He doesn't keep harping on about D vs R like Trump did.
He doesn't blame everything on R or conservatives like Trump blamed everything on D and liberals
He doesn't come up with derogatory names for Republicans or Conservatives like Trump did when he constantly called them socialists and radical left.

Biden attacked the MAGA group, but said they were the minority of Republicans.

Well, I guess that's ok then. Attacking those considered a minority is now a good thing.
 
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Emergencies are the "in" thing these days, and the people who never let such things go to waste are currently in power. War, climate change, Covid, Monkeypox, the imminent threat of those MAGA people voting in the election. So many reasons to declare an "emergency"!
This whataboutism, then, is particularly apt: declaring a “border emergency” to siphon off the military budget, money for a wall, because a President failed in negotiations with [checks notes] Nancy Pelosi.
 
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Emergencies are the "in" thing these days, and the people who never let such things go to waste are currently in power. War, climate change, Covid, Monkeypox, the imminent threat of those MAGA people voting in the election. So many reasons to declare an "emergency"!
Just fear mongering nonsense. Why can't USA folk just be normal?

Sometimes you get one party in office, sometimes you get the other party, elections come and go.

This last election was unique due to the incumbent refusing to gracefully concede and instead declaring widespread voter fraud without any evidence and trying to coordinate his VP and election officials and alternative slates of electors and his AG to overturn the will of the people's vote.

There is nothing at all to suggest that Biden has any interest in rigging, overturning or cancelling an election.
 
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Well, I guess that's ok then. Attacking those considered a minority is now a good thing.
Attacking people that have committed crimes in a violent assault on the capitol, and in attempts to overthrow a democratic election, is the appropriate thing to do. Domestic terrorism and anti democratic activities is a great threat to the continued health of USA as a country.
 
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This whataboutism, then, is particularly apt: declaring a “border emergency” to siphon off the military budget, money for a wall, because a President failed in negotiations with [checks notes] Nancy Pelosi.

It was Pelosi who said he couldn't forgive student loans.
 
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Just fear mongering nonsense. Why can't USA folk just be normal?

Sometimes you get one party in office, sometimes you get the other party, elections come and go.

This last election was unique due to the incumbent refusing to gracefully concede and instead declaring widespread voter fraud without any evidence and trying to coordinate his VP and election officials and alternative slates of electors and his AG to overturn the will of the people's vote.

There is nothing at all to suggest that Biden has any interest in rigging, overturning or cancelling an election.

We'll see within just a couple months.
 
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Attacking people that have committed crimes in a violent assault on the capitol, and in attempts to overthrow a democratic election, is the appropriate thing to do. Domestic terrorism and anti democratic activities is a great threat to the continued health of USA as a country.

You mean he was talking about those who were arrested and are still in jail awaiting a trial after a year and a half? Then he did his speech in the wrong location.
 
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You mean he was talking about those who were arrested and are still in jail awaiting a trial after a year and a half? Then he did his speech in the wrong location.
I'm pretty sure he's talking also about those that are free and are potentially considering violence if Trump gets indicted. Also talking about those that are seeking to subvert the next elections, with voter suppression efforts and those that are still believing without evidence that 2020 was stolen and have now put themselves on election boards.
 
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We'll see within just a couple months.
Sorry, you think in the next couple of months that Joe Biden is going to call off the mid-term elections??????

And this is based on what? Is this circulating in Q Anon?????
 
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